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  1. In article <[email hidden]>,
    OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> writes:
    [snip]

    Quoted message said:


    Well, I found out on Sunday that I was ok with both the .357 revolver
    and the .45 SA.

    Seems for me anyway that it's the SIZE and WEIGHT of the pistol that
    helped me be more accurate! My .22 Iver Johnson will fit across my open
    hand. It's tiny and light and I can barely hit anything with it. :-( I
    know that I can learn with patience and practice,

    Maybe. Maybe not. It might also be that little .22 just isn't that
    good a pistol. Or it could be that its form doesn't suit you well
    for other reasons. Or it could be... well, there are many, many,
    many variables. I've known very, *very* few people that could pick
    up just any ol' pistol and shoot well with it.

    Quoted message said:

    but with the two
    larger pistols, I found it far easier to be more accurate.

    See below...

    Quoted message said:


    I'm not really intersted in a .45 at this point in time tho'.
    It was fun to fire it...... ;-)

    I've never been a fan of the .45, myself. Not denying its capability
    or record--I just have other preferences.

    Quoted message said:


    The new .22 magnum revolver that my dad bought looks interesting but
    I've not fired it yet. It's a medium sized gun, a chrome plated F.I.E.
    which is a brand I'd never heard of before.

    Probably an import. For revolvers: I prefer American-made arms. (I
    don't care for chrome on a firearms on anything but the inside of
    shotgun barrels, either 😉. Stainless is tolerable--sometimes.)

    Quoted message said:

    It came with two cylinders,
    one for magnums and one for LR's. They guy only wanted $150.00 for it
    and it's in excellent condition.


    [snip]

    You might take a look at the Ruger "Single Six." It's a very nicely
    crafted .22 cal. single-action revolver. It's more heavily built than
    most other .22 cal. revolvers. Kind of like a "baby Blackhawk" in a
    way 🙂. Here's a nice synopsis:

    <http://www.chuckhawks.com/ruger_single_six_syn.htm>

    A Ruger Single Six with 6-1/2" barrel would probably meet your "heft"
    requirement.

    --
    Jim Seymour | "It is wrong always, everywhere and
    WARNING: The "From:" address is a | for everyone to believe anything upon
    spam trap. DON'T USE IT! Use: | insufficient evidence."
    [email hidden] | - W. K. Clifford, ca. 1876

  2. "Runs With Knives" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> writes:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The new .22 magnum revolver that my dad bought looks interesting but
    I've not fired it yet. It's a medium sized gun, a chrome plated F.I.E.
    which is a brand I'd never heard of before.

    Probably an import. For revolvers: I prefer American-made arms. (I
    don't care for chrome on a firearms on anything but the inside of
    shotgun barrels, either 😉. Stainless is tolerable--sometimes.)

    Quoted message said:

    It came with two cylinders,
    one for magnums and one for LR's. They guy only wanted $150.00 for it
    and it's in excellent condition.


    [snip]

    You might take a look at the Ruger "Single Six." It's a very nicely
    crafted .22 cal. single-action revolver. It's more heavily built than
    most other .22 cal. revolvers. Kind of like a "baby Blackhawk" in a
    way 🙂. Here's a nice synopsis:

    <http://www.chuckhawks.com/ruger_single_six_syn.htm>

    A Ruger Single Six with 6-1/2" barrel would probably meet your "heft"
    requirement.

    Big yes. I've owned that Ruger Single Six for many years, and love it. Along
    with a rare, hand-made for Ruger, limited edition Bianchi full flap holster
    with the Sturm Ruger logo embossed on the flap. The .22LR for cheap fun, and
    the .22 Magnum for hunting, if one hunts. Great toy!

    David

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    WillBrink said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    So, you think S&W is better than Ruger?

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:


    Why?

    SnW makes many different .357's where as Ruger makes just a few models.
    I am talking about the SnW 686 myself, and it's considered better by
    most due to things like trigger mechanism, accuracy, fit n finish, and
    so on. The Ruger is a well made rugged gun and many people love them
    fine. You cant go wrong with it really and the price is usually quite
    good on the used market.

    The guy selling this one wants $357.00 for it.
    I found the price to be amusing. He says it's had less than 200 rounds
    put thru it.

    If it's in that good a shape, that's a fair price.

    Quoted message said:


    I will, of course, check it out before purchase!

    Good

    Quoted message said:
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    Not being argumentative, I'm just still learning. ;-)

    We are all learning. You are smart to make a rugged .357 revolver your
    first handgun. BTW, you can shoot .38 through it and save $$$ with less
    recoil.

    So I've been told, thanks!
    That will save me a lot of $$$ on ammo for target practice.

    Also saves your hands and the gun. Draw back however is if you ever
    fired the .357 for sef defense or other reasons, it will be a problem as
    you will have forgotten the differences. Best rule to fire .357 from it
    semi regular.

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    I do. Had to buy a new kit. Dad had mis-placed his.
    Have not had time yet due to my work schedule but I sure as heck want to
    clean them well before we use them again.

    I'm mechanically inclined so not terribly worried.

    Revolvers are easier to clean and much more forgiving then semi auto
    when dirty.

    I can imagine! Less complicated and fewer moving parts.

    As one of the best known and respected shooters once said:

    "I'll take a revolver; you take your chances"- Bill Jordan

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    I've never hunted pigs, but I have raised them back in high school when
    I was in FFA. Yeah, their tough but a good head shot will still put them
    down. And, he does not hunt the pigs with that pistol. It's just for
    backup.

    Never ever count on a head shot, unless it's tied up in front of you.
    The noise, recoil, and TV, lead people to think handguns must be pretty
    darn powerful, but they are not actually. For example, I knew a guy who
    shot a racoon with a .45. It flipped over once, landed on its feet, and
    charged him. Clamped onto his leg, where he then had to shoot it 2 more
    times to kill it. He was then off to the ER with the dead coon for
    tests.

    Racoons are pretty tough animals!
    When I shoot them in a trap, I generally aim for right between the eyes.
    Of course that's not the same if they are "loose" like you said!

    Loose and [censored], they are nasty animals.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Animals often have plenty left in them to come after you when
    shot unless through vital areas, which one can not ever count on. Many
    cops have shot tough dogs like a Pit Bull with a handgun thinking the
    dog would fall over dead only to find out just how though those dogs are
    when [censored]. I do know someone who was run up a tree after shooting
    a big male wild hog that turned and charged after being shot with a high
    powered rifle.

    Pigs are well known to be dangerous. ;-)
    What caliber of rifle would you recommend?

    I am not a hunter of wild pigs, so others may have better answers for
    you on this one.

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    Sounds good. In TX I guess you can buy what you want without a lisence
    and there is lots of open places to shoot. Here we need a lisence to buy
    a sling shot and big open spaces to shoot with the cops showing up are
    few. It might still be nice to have a CCW lisence if you ever wanted to
    carry.

    Ew. Where do you live?

    People's Republic of MA.

    --
    Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    DZ said:
    WillBrink said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    > For example, I knew a guy who shot a racoon with a .45. It flipped
    > over once, landed on its feet, and charged him. Clamped onto his
    > leg, where he then had to shoot it 2 more times to kill it. He was
    > then off to the ER with the dead coon for tests.

    Racoons are pretty tough animals!
    When I shoot them in a trap, I generally aim for right between the eyes.
    Of course that's not the same if they are "loose" like you said!

    Loose and [censored], they are nasty animals.

    I feed them nuts in the backyard.

    I can't speak for your situation, but for home owners that's a very bad
    idea. They can be very destructive animals. Feeding them only trains
    them to associate you and your home with food. Though I never fed any of
    them, I had one dig under my deck, rip out a whole in the wall, and
    build his nest under my office, tearing out all the insulation, and
    costing me plenty of money to fix it all. I still didn¹t kill him, but
    put moth balls under the house (they hate the smell of moth balls BTW)
    to chase him off, then blocked up the whole. I had one get on my roof
    and attempt to go down my chimney for reasons known only to him. They
    kill people¹s cats, get into trash and drag it all over the street, etc,
    etc. Rabid coons are also fairly common, and the story of above was a
    guy shooting a rabid coon.

    Quoted message said:

    I can't imagine shooting one for
    fun.

    I would not shoot any animal for fun. Most times, it's the stupid
    behavior of people that ends up getting an animal shot and killed, like
    people who feed bears, bear associates your house with food, bear gets
    aggressive, bear ends up dead. It's a shame.

    --
    Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    DZ said:
    WillBrink said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    > For example, I knew a guy who shot a racoon with a .45. It flipped
    > over once, landed on its feet, and charged him. Clamped onto his
    > leg, where he then had to shoot it 2 more times to kill it. He was
    > then off to the ER with the dead coon for tests.

    Racoons are pretty tough animals!
    When I shoot them in a trap, I generally aim for right between the eyes.
    Of course that's not the same if they are "loose" like you said!

    Loose and [censored], they are nasty animals.

    I feed them nuts in the backyard. I can't imagine shooting one for
    fun.

    I don't shoot them for fun...
    I shoot them because they rip up my poultry, (and my dog),
    they carry rabies and there are wayyyy too damned many of them.

    I DO have a heart tho' and try to make sure I kill them with a single
    shot. While it pisses me off when they kill one of my ornamental
    bantams, (It never frickin' fails that they take out the favorite little
    birds!), I don't feel that it's necessary to make them suffer for
    "vengance". That's just stupid.

    I try to make damned sure that anything I kill does not suffer.

    Varmint elimination is not a sport. It's a necessity.

    Racoons are cute to some folks, but DO be careful!
    They can easily take a finger off and a female in heat can turn mean on
    you in a heartbeat.

    And like I said, they carry rabies. There is currently an ongoing rabies
    epidemic in this part of Texas.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Runs With Knives) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> writes:
    [snip]

    Quoted message said:


    Well, I found out on Sunday that I was ok with both the .357 revolver
    and the .45 SA.

    Seems for me anyway that it's the SIZE and WEIGHT of the pistol that
    helped me be more accurate! My .22 Iver Johnson will fit across my open
    hand. It's tiny and light and I can barely hit anything with it. :-( I
    know that I can learn with patience and practice,

    Maybe. Maybe not. It might also be that little .22 just isn't that
    good a pistol. Or it could be that its form doesn't suit you well
    for other reasons. Or it could be... well, there are many, many,
    many variables. I've known very, *very* few people that could pick
    up just any ol' pistol and shoot well with it.

    I'm wondering if the grip is just too damned small.
    That was one of the reasons the now ex-owner of my new .357
    was selling it. ;-)

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    but with the two
    larger pistols, I found it far easier to be more accurate.

    See below...

    Quoted message said:


    I'm not really intersted in a .45 at this point in time tho'.
    It was fun to fire it...... ;-)

    I've never been a fan of the .45, myself. Not denying its capability
    or record--I just have other preferences.

    After finally getting to fire some larger calibers, the 9mm is ok and I
    may pick up another one to use as a qualifier for a CG license course.

    Have not made up my mind yet.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    The new .22 magnum revolver that my dad bought looks interesting but
    I've not fired it yet. It's a medium sized gun, a chrome plated F.I.E.
    which is a brand I'd never heard of before.

    Probably an import. For revolvers: I prefer American-made arms. (I
    don't care for chrome on a firearms on anything but the inside of
    shotgun barrels, either 😉. Stainless is tolerable--sometimes.)

    You prefer blued?

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    It came with two cylinders,
    one for magnums and one for LR's. They guy only wanted $150.00 for it
    and it's in excellent condition.


    [snip]

    You might take a look at the Ruger "Single Six." It's a very nicely
    crafted .22 cal. single-action revolver. It's more heavily built than
    most other .22 cal. revolvers. Kind of like a "baby Blackhawk" in a
    way 🙂. Here's a nice synopsis:

    <http://www.chuckhawks.com/ruger_single_six_syn.htm>

    A Ruger Single Six with 6-1/2" barrel would probably meet your "heft"
    requirement.

    Looks good, but just 48 hours after I got to target practice with
    Nathan's Ruger .357, a Ruger RedHawk .357 magnum became available for
    sale to me for a very affordable price.

    I picked it up today. This thing is a bloody _cannon_! <lol>
    I bought some ammo. and can hardly wait to fire it this weekend.

    It is quite "hefty". ;-)

    The seller has offered me a refund if I decide I don't like it, but
    considering how little I paid for it, I know I could re-sell it for a
    higher price but I doubt it will come to that.

    I'll know next Monday for sure. This beauty looks superb!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  7. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Looks good, but just 48 hours after I got to target practice with
    Nathan's Ruger .357, a Ruger RedHawk .357 magnum became available for
    sale to me for a very affordable price.

    I picked it up today. This thing is a bloody _cannon_! <lol>
    I bought some ammo. and can hardly wait to fire it this weekend.

    It is quite "hefty". ;-)

    Don't be a girlieman, get some nice, hot, 125 gr JHPs, and experience life
    to its fullest.

    Shoot it at night for some great fun!

    David

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    David Cohen said:


    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Looks good, but just 48 hours after I got to target practice with
    Nathan's Ruger .357, a Ruger RedHawk .357 magnum became available for
    sale to me for a very affordable price.

    I picked it up today. This thing is a bloody _cannon_! <lol>
    I bought some ammo. and can hardly wait to fire it this weekend.

    It is quite "hefty". ;-)

    Don't be a girlieman, get some nice, hot, 125 gr JHPs, and experience life
    to its fullest.


    [snip]

    That's one of the advantages of Ruger wheel guns: They're usually
    built to withstand full loads, day in, day out. Many other
    revolvers, were you to do that to 'em, would shake apart.

    --
    Jim Seymour | "It is wrong always, everywhere and
    WARNING: The "From:" address is a | for everyone to believe anything upon
    spam trap. DON'T USE IT! Use: | insufficient evidence."
    [email hidden] | - W. K. Clifford, ca. 1876

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    David Cohen said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Looks good, but just 48 hours after I got to target practice with
    Nathan's Ruger .357, a Ruger RedHawk .357 magnum became available for
    sale to me for a very affordable price.

    I picked it up today. This thing is a bloody _cannon_! <lol>
    I bought some ammo. and can hardly wait to fire it this weekend.

    It is quite "hefty". ;-)

    Don't be a girlieman, get some nice, hot, 125 gr JHPs, and experience life
    to its fullest.

    Shoot it at night for some great fun!

    David

    Considering your evil sense of humor, I'm a bit leery of this. <G>
    I will however check it out out of sheer curiosity......

    I know what you mean about shooting at night.
    Last weekend's target practice lasted well into dusk!
    Neat fireworks from the larger caliber guns and the darker
    it got, the better the laser site on dad's 9mm worked. :-)

    Cheers!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Runs With Knives) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    David Cohen said:


    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Looks good, but just 48 hours after I got to target practice with
    Nathan's Ruger .357, a Ruger RedHawk .357 magnum became available for
    sale to me for a very affordable price.

    I picked it up today. This thing is a bloody _cannon_! <lol>
    I bought some ammo. and can hardly wait to fire it this weekend.

    It is quite "hefty". ;-)

    Don't be a girlieman, get some nice, hot, 125 gr JHPs, and experience life
    to its fullest.


    [snip]

    That's one of the advantages of Ruger wheel guns: They're usually
    built to withstand full loads, day in, day out. Many other
    revolvers, were you to do that to 'em, would shake apart.

    Indeed,
    and this particular model is larger and heavier than some of the others.

    It's in perfect condition too. Steve really took good care of it,
    as shall I.......
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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