Testosterone dosing protocols optimized for cyclist in training?

Interesting. Hope your replacement therapy goes well.

Have nothing to add, but ask. My Anti-aging MD charges $600/mo for HGH with labs every three months.
How do you get it for $200?

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I have been on some medications that suppress the natural production of testosterone. More than
80% of it is now provided by a cream. The script says take once per morning. I have seen various
recommendations and I am wondering if anyone has information of dosing that is optimized to assist
the body in recovery and cell regeneration etc. (or any other issues I

have

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not thought about).

I will likely be on this for another year at least. I may also add HGH during the peak months of
the year until my body fat percentage gets down

to

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at least close to what it was before my injuries. Since the cost is about $200 per month, I
calculate that I will get the best use of it only when I am working out 14 + hours per week. I
should be up to that level by April

or

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May and then I will decide after 6 months (3 months of taking it and then another 3 months
without) what to do for the long term.

If this all works out, I would like to be legal (for racing) again at some point in the future but
my health is more important.

Any ideas (go ahead and flame or have a good time with the thread too)

would

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be appreciated as always.

In article <[email hidden]>, Nick Burns

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I have been on some medications that suppress the natural production of testosterone. More than
80% of it is now provided by a cream. The script says take once per morning. I have seen various
recommendations and I am wondering if anyone has information of dosing that is optimized to assist
the body in recovery and cell regeneration etc. (or any other issues I have not thought about).

What you want to find out from sources like WebMD is how long it takes for the med to get into your
system, how long before it peaks, the half-life, etc. It may be that the med just sort of trickles
into your system so it won't matter when you take it and taking it in the morning just means that it
will be in your system all day and in to the evening. Anyway, doesn't sound like fun. Good luck.

-WG

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Interesting. Hope your replacement therapy goes well.

Thanks, I was shocked at how much difference it made. I think that I should have had that looked at
earlier. I have been hearing more and more stories about causes of suppressed testosterone and it
seems like aging cyclists that train and work a lot are more likely than average to need HRT.

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Have nothing to add, but ask. My Anti-aging MD charges $600/mo for HGH

with

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labs every three months. How do you get it for $200?

I will get the brand and dosing info for your comparison. The MD has been branching out in to anti-
aging and I believe it is one of the major brands that has been working with MDs for years now. It
could be that he is only charging me his cost.

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I have been on some medications that suppress the natural production of testosterone. More than
80% of it is now provided by a cream. The script says take once per morning. I have seen various
recommendations and I am wondering if anyone has information of dosing that is optimized to

assist

Quoted message said:

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the body in recovery and cell regeneration etc. (or any other issues I

have

Quoted message said:

not thought about).

I will likely be on this for another year at least. I may also add HGH during the peak months of
the year until my body fat percentage gets

down

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to

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at least close to what it was before my injuries. Since the cost is

about

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$200 per month, I calculate that I will get the best use of it only when

I

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am working out 14 + hours per week. I should be up to that level by

April

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or

Quoted message said:

May and then I will decide after 6 months (3 months of taking it and

then

Quoted message said:

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another 3 months without) what to do for the long term.

If this all works out, I would like to be legal (for racing) again at

some

Quoted message said:

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point in the future but my health is more important.

Any ideas (go ahead and flame or have a good time with the thread too)

would

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be appreciated as always.

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In article <[email hidden]>, Nick Burns

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I have been on some medications that suppress the natural production of testosterone. More than
80% of it is now provided by a cream. The script says take once per morning. I have seen various
recommendations and I am wondering if anyone has information of dosing that is optimized to

assist

Quoted message said:

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the body in recovery and cell regeneration etc. (or any other issues I

have

Quoted message said:

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not thought about).

What you want to find out from sources like WebMD is how long it takes for the med to get into
your system, how long before it peaks, the half-life, etc. It may be that the med just sort of
trickles into your system so it won't matter when you take it and taking it in the morning just
means that it will be in your system all day and in to the evening. Anyway, doesn't sound like
fun. Good luck.

-WG

It actually has a fairly long half-life, so it may not matter too much. I have seen some comments
about optimal dosing but there may in fact not be any science at all behind those thoughts. I would
at least like to hear the thinking behind any recommendations. I have heard that the highest levels
occur naturally in the morning and that athletes do better taking the supplements at night time to
assist recovery. I have no idea if that is true but I am just going to play it safe until I get
better info on this.

Thanks Warren.

My Doc says do it at night, daily.

I'm concerned what does your system do when you come off of it. Given the therapy, has the gland
stopped producing and will it restart, when you stop

Will the hormone promote the growth of pre-cancers, into cancers?

What other side effects, I've read about enlarged jaw line and ears.

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I have been on some medications that suppress the natural production

of

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testosterone. More than 80% of it is now provided by a cream. The

script

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says take once per morning. I have seen various recommendations and I

am

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wondering if anyone has information of dosing that is optimized to

assist

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the body in recovery and cell regeneration etc. (or any other issues I

have

Quoted message said:

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not thought about).

What you want to find out from sources like WebMD is how long it takes for the med to get into
your system, how long before it peaks, the half-life, etc. It may be that the med just sort of
trickles into your system so it won't matter when you take it and taking it in the morning just
means that it will be in your system all day and in to the evening. Anyway, doesn't sound like
fun. Good luck.

-WG

It actually has a fairly long half-life, so it may not matter too much. I have seen some comments
about optimal dosing but there may in fact not be any science at all behind those thoughts. I
would at least like to hear

the

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thinking behind any recommendations. I have heard that the highest levels occur naturally in the
morning and that athletes do better taking the supplements at night time to assist recovery. I
have no idea if that is

true

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but I am just going to play it safe until I get better info on this.

Thanks Warren.