Thanksgiving Strategy

googlesux said:

Another question from a newbie. How do you all handle going to someone else's house for
Thanksgiving dinner (or any other meal)?

Any food offered with love and in the spirit of gratitude is holy. To deny it is to profane all that
is good, blessed, and right. Surely you can find something offered that is edible despite your
peculiar obsessions with food.

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Do you bring along a microwavable container filled with your oen vegan meal and ask to use the
microwave?

Do you give thanks by isolating yourself from others? Do you seek to profane that which is offered
to all in attendance out of love and gratitude to a higher power?

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Or do you just eat whatever you can from the meal that's served?

Yes.

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If it's thanksgiving, it'd be nice to have some mock turkey, so how do you handle it?

I'm sure you can discuss well beforehand your insecurities and peculiar food obsessions with the
person in whose home you will be guest. Perhaps that person will sanctify a fake turkey -- a mockery
to God -- to satisfy your eating disorder. What better way, though, than to show others that one can
be a cheerful participant of the rest of the thanksgiving feast without eating the bird.

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I don't want to offend, but also don't want to compromise.

What's wrong with compromise on one bloody day of the entire year? Surely love of God and family
outweighs the specious issue of veganism the entire year.

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Thanks. I'm sure this is a common question, so sorry to bore anyone.

It is common, and it is boring. That's okay, most people here are both. Why are you a vegan?

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Quoted message said:

Another question from a newbie. How do you all handle going to someone else's house for
Thanksgiving dinner (or any other meal)? Do you bring along a microwavable container filled with
your oen vegan meal and ask to use the microwave? Or do you just eat whatever you can from the
meal that's served? If it's thanksgiving, it'd be nice to have some mock turkey, so how do you
handle it? I don't want to offend, but also don't want to compromise.

If the host isn't already aware of your vegan diet, a quiet word with whoever's preparing the meal
in the kitchen before the meal is served will save a lot of awkward questions during the meal from
the other guests. Most hosts will only be too pleased to accomodate your diet, I'm sure.

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Thanks. I'm sure this is a common question, so sorry to bore anyone.

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Quoted message said:

Another question from a newbie. How do you all handle going to someone else's house for
Thanksgiving dinner (or any other meal)? Do you bring along a microwavable container filled with
your oen vegan meal and ask to use the microwave? Or do you just eat whatever you can from the
meal that's served? If it's thanksgiving, it'd be nice to have some mock turkey, so how do you
handle it? I don't want to offend, but also don't want to compromise.

Thanks. I'm sure this is a common question, so sorry to bore anyone.

Fill a pyrex dish with vegan versions of traditional foods and bring it along. That way the host
doesn't have to go through all sorts of changes to feed you. Be sure to tell the host that is what
you are going to do.

I'd bring a dish with some mashed potatoes, stuffing, seiten 'turkey', roasted veg and gravy. Pop it
in the nuker for a few minutes before eating and serve yourself. Be low key and enjoy the company.

Alternatively, host your own vegan thanksgiving dinner, invite the family and cook it all yourself.

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Quoted message said:

Another question from a newbie. How do you all handle going to someone else's house for
Thanksgiving dinner (or any other meal)? Do you bring along a microwavable container filled with
your oen vegan meal and ask to use the microwave? Or do you just eat whatever you can from the
meal that's served? If it's thanksgiving, it'd be nice to have some mock turkey, so how do you
handle it? I don't want to offend, but also don't want to compromise.

Thanks. I'm sure this is a common question, so sorry to bore anyone.

As a vegan, eating and communing at Thanksgiving with non-believers requires a lot of strategy.
First, prepare lots of vegan literature and condemn your hosts loudly for their violations of your
philosophy. They do not know what harm and suffering they are causing to the animal world and their
health so you must educate them. When the turkey leg is raised to mouth, jump up and make a speech
as to why eating that turkey leg is bad and how evil your hosts are for doing so. In general, make
yourself as big of a pain as you can and demand compliance with your beliefs, or better yet,
completely denounce your friends and leave if they do not cater to you specially.

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Quoted message said:

Another question from a newbie. How do you all handle going to someone else's house for
Thanksgiving dinner (or any other meal)? Do you bring along a microwavable container filled with
your oen vegan meal and ask to use the microwave? Or do you just eat whatever you can from the
meal that's served? If it's thanksgiving, it'd be nice to have some mock turkey, so how do you
handle it? I don't want to offend, but also don't want to compromise.

Thanks. I'm sure this is a common question, so sorry to bore anyone.

Bring along some side dishes, and some mock turkey, and make sure you bring enough to share. It's
all about bounty and thankfulness; no need to make a big deal about it. Just offer your stuff along
with everything else and it'll add to the variety of dishes everyone gets to eat. 🙂

Carey

I would offer to bring my own "interesting vegan dish" to the meal for everyone sitting down to
dinner to try. try to make it a main dish like a veggie or rice casserole or something similar so
*you have a main dish to eat from. i'm sure there would be veggies or some other side dish at the
meal you could eat, and have your main dish blessed right along with the other food. 🙂 this has
worked well for me in the 2-1/2 years i've been vegetarian/vegan.

Megan

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Another question from a newbie.

Feel free to ask as many as you like..

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How do you all handle going to someone else's house for Thanksgiving dinner (or any other meal)?

<snip> Generally I go over to my folks house or to a vegetarian friends for the holidays so it's not
too much of a bother. My mum prepares a lot of veg and leaves the butter out... recently she
switched to earth balance margarine so this year it won't matter if she puts it on or not. I always
bring the sweet potatoes and a tofu terrine type thing along with gravy and a pumpkin pie. I used to
bring the whole meal and then nuke it, but it's much nicer when you can share your dishes.

Last year the folks came over to our place for xmas supper and they thoroughly enjoyed it--they even
took some leftovers home with them.

When the meal is with people who aren't veg or even aware of what my diet is, then I usually suggest
going out to a place that caters to veg & non veg alike... since most of my friends are vegetarian
or otherwise enlightened, it's usually not an issue.

Cheers,

Fritz

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googlesux said:

Another question from a newbie. How do you all handle going to someone else's house for
Thanksgiving dinner (or any other meal)?

Any food offered with love and in the spirit of gratitude is holy. To deny it is to profane all
that is good, blessed, and right. Surely you can find something offered that is edible despite
your peculiar obsessions with food.

<snip>

You should have cross-posted this to rec.religion.crackpot

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Quoted message said:

Another question from a newbie. How do you all handle going to someone else's house for
Thanksgiving dinner (or any other meal)? Do you bring along a microwavable container filled with
your oen vegan meal and ask to use the microwave? Or do you just eat whatever you can from the
meal that's served? If it's thanksgiving, it'd be nice to have some mock turkey, so how do you
handle it? I don't want to offend, but also don't want to compromise.

If the host isn't already aware of your vegan diet, a quiet word with whoever's preparing the meal
in the kitchen before the meal is served will save a lot of awkward questions during the meal from
the other guests. Most hosts will only be too pleased to accomodate your diet, I'm sure.

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Thanks. I'm sure this is a common question, so sorry to bore anyone.

I would say a quiet casual word at invitation or a couple of weeks before the meal is prepared is
adequate. We should never expect anyone to feel compelled to accomodate our diets and surprising
someone as they are preparing a meal is just going to add to an already stressful day for the person
who opens their home to you. You should never assume that YOU are going to be the only person there
who is veg/vegan, esp in todays world. The thanksgivings in our homes are half veg/vegan half
traditional for over a decade now. If you let the host know in advance you can even make a strategy
with other guests. Thanksgiving is more tolerable if you work with other people to accomodate
everyone.You can do any of these quietly and without prejudice.

- Insist on bringing over a side dish. People may enjoy it even before they ask what it is. You can
eat this as your main meal.

-Offer to help cook the meal and maybe you can prepare certain items without ingredients that
compromise your diet or beliefs. Bring over some vegetable broth and some vegan sausage type stuff
for stuffing. Make alternative versions of traditional favorites. For the last two years my vegan
stuffing was the first to go, even among the bird eaters in the family. I have to make a bigger pile
this year.

- if you dont want to explain yourself to your distant hunter-cousin just say "oh i've been making
the rounds today and i'm stuffed" and leave it at that.

There are plenty of traditional items at thanksgiving and other holdays that are totally vegan in
nature esp in the south. Bean and potato type dishes are as old as turkey gnawing. Read up on those
items and go nuts. You'll find that holidays wont be as scary and as long as you're not
condescending or preachy you may find people will enjoy the items you've prepared.

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I would offer to bring my own "interesting vegan dish" to the meal for everyone sitting down to
dinner to try. try to make it a main dish like a veggie or rice casserole or something similar so
*you have a main dish to eat from. i'm sure there would be veggies or some other side dish at the
meal you could eat, and have your main dish blessed right along with the other food. 🙂 this has
worked well for me in the 2-1/2 years i've been vegetarian/vegan.

Megan

I once brought vegan pumpkin pie to a family get-together and my grandfather 'accidentily' had some.
I asked if he liked it and he said it was pretty good. Then I told him it was made with tofu and he
almost fell over.

googlesux said:

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Quoted message said:

Another question from a newbie. How do you all handle going to someone else's house for
Thanksgiving dinner (or any other meal)?

Any food offered with love and in the spirit of gratitude is holy. To deny it is to profane all
that is good, blessed, and right. Surely you can find something offered that is edible despite
your peculiar obsessions with food.

<snip>

You should have cross-posted this to rec.religion.crackpot

It's your crackpot religion which has led to the eating disorder which has put you in a dilemma that
doesn't affect ordinary people of ordinary tastes. You're the cause of the dilemma, and the source
of Thanksgiving conflict. Grow up, stop whining, and rise above your petty selfishness. Cheerfully
eat from what's available with a grateful heart.

PS: You really do profane that which is holy by rejecting that which has been blessed, and even more
so when you resort to fake foods like mock turkey.

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Quoted message said:

Another question from a newbie. How do you all handle going to someone else's house for
Thanksgiving dinner (or any other meal)? Do you bring along a microwavable container filled
with your oen vegan meal and ask to use the microwave? Or do you just eat whatever you can
from the meal that's served? If it's thanksgiving, it'd be nice to have some mock turkey, so
how do you handle it? I don't want to offend, but also don't want to compromise.

If the host isn't already aware of your vegan diet, a quiet word with whoever's preparing
the meal in the kitchen before the meal is served will save a lot of awkward questions
during the meal from the other guests. Most hosts will only be too pleased to accomodate
your diet, I'm sure.

Quoted message said:

Thanks. I'm sure this is a common question, so sorry to bore anyone.

I would say a quiet casual word at invitation or a couple of weeks before the meal is prepared is
adequate. We should never expect anyone to feel compelled to accomodate our diets and surprising
someone as they are preparing a meal is just going to add to an already stressful day for the
person who opens their home to you. You should never assume that YOU are going to be the only
person there who is veg/vegan, esp in todays world. The thanksgivings in our homes are half
veg/vegan half traditional for over a decade now. If you let the host know in advance you can even
make a strategy with other guests. Thanksgiving is more tolerable if you work with other people to
accomodate everyone.You can do any of these quietly and without prejudice.

- Insist on bringing over a side dish. People may enjoy it even before they ask what it is. You
can eat this as your main meal.

-Offer to help cook the meal and maybe you can prepare certain items without ingredients that
compromise your diet or beliefs. Bring over some vegetable broth and some vegan sausage type stuff
for stuffing. Make alternative versions of traditional favorites. For the last two years my vegan
stuffing was the first to go, even among the bird eaters in the family. I have to make a bigger
pile this year.

- if you dont want to explain yourself to your distant hunter-cousin just say "oh i've been making
the rounds today and i'm stuffed" and leave it at that.

There are plenty of traditional items at thanksgiving and other holdays that are totally vegan in
nature esp in the south. Bean and potato type dishes are as old as turkey gnawing. Read up on
those items and go nuts. You'll find that holidays wont be as scary and as long as you're not
condescending or preachy you may find people will enjoy the items you've prepared.

That covers just about everything. I did give some advice myself, but to be totally honest, my best
advice would be to arrive late and avoid the meal completely. What happens if you're asked to help
wash the dishes? What new kind of hell would that be?

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I once brought vegan pumpkin pie to a family get-together and my grandfather 'accidentily' had
some. I asked if he liked it and he said it was pretty good. Then I told him it was made with tofu
and he almost fell over.

heh, the same thing goes for a vegan blueberry cheesecake I made from "tofu quick & easy" by louise
hagler. 🙂

M.

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googlesux said:

Quoted message said:

>Another question from a newbie. How do you all handle going to someone else's house for
>Thanksgiving dinner (or any other meal)?

Any food offered with love and in the spirit of gratitude is holy. To deny it is to profane all
that is good, blessed, and right. Surely you can find something offered that is edible despite
your peculiar obsessions with food.

<snip>

You should have cross-posted this to rec.religion.crackpot

It's your crackpot religion which has led to the eating disorder which has put you in a dilemma
that doesn't affect ordinary people of ordinary tastes. You're the cause of the dilemma, and the
source of Thanksgiving conflict. Grow up, stop whining, and rise above your petty selfishness.
Cheerfully eat from what's available with a grateful heart.

PS: You really do profane that which is holy by rejecting that which has been blessed, and even
more so when you resort to fake foods like mock turkey.

Coo-koo.