The 3 Peaks

Bernard said:

Last Sunday we drove to Horton and then caught the train to Ribblehead and
walked back to Horton over Ingleborough via the cafe at the barn on Philpin
Lane. According to the woman at the cafe, BT have got 1,000 people doing
the 3 Peaks next Saturday 16th June, so if you are planning to be in the
area, you have been warned.

Blimey, has Angus been consulted?

Roy.

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Last Sunday we drove to Horton and then caught the train to Ribblehead and
walked back to Horton over Ingleborough via the cafe at the barn on Philpin
Lane. According to the woman at the cafe, BT have got 1,000 people doing
the 3 Peaks next Saturday 16th June, so if you are planning to be in the
area, you have been warned.

Absolutely stupid that sort of numbers. I hope the leaders will all get
stuck in the first bog they come to and form an impenetrable barrier
that the laggards cannot pass. :-)

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Roger Chapman
Nearest Marilyn still to be visited - Great Orme.
89 miles as the crow flies,
considerably more as the walker drives.

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Last Sunday we drove to Horton and then caught the train to Ribblehead
and
walked back to Horton over Ingleborough via the cafe at the barn on
Philpin
Lane. According to the woman at the cafe, BT have got 1,000 people doing
the 3 Peaks next Saturday 16th June, so if you are planning to be in the
area, you have been warned.

Absolutely stupid that sort of numbers. I hope the leaders will all get
stuck in the first bog they come to and form an impenetrable barrier
that the laggards cannot pass. :-)

Given the dry conditions, it's a lot harder than normal to get wet and muddy
in the Dales at the moment.

I assume that there will be staggered starts. It would be interesting to
know what proportion finish. Apparently they will have mini-buses at
Ribblehead and Chapel le Dale to collect those who do drop out.

If you Google it, it's 100 teams, four in a team, and they've done it
every year since 1999 without anyone noticing. Still worth avoiding,
however.

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If you Google it, it's 100 teams, four in a team, and they've done it
every year since 1999 without anyone noticing. Still worth avoiding,
however.

I'm must have mis-heard.

According to this web site http://www.thethreepeaks.com/ it was last
Saturday for BT with 100 teams of 4. The woman at the cafe did say there
had been a large group doing it last Saturday, but she did also say 1,000
will be doing it this Saturday,. I must have got the BT connection wrong,
as it's Heart Research UK who are doing it this Saturday with hundreds of
walkers according to this web site
http://www.heartresearch.org.uk/three_peaks.htm

Regards

Bernard

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If you Google it, it's 100 teams, four in a team, and they've done it
every year since 1999 without anyone noticing. Still worth avoiding,
however.

I'm must have mis-heard.

According to this web site http://www.thethreepeaks.com/ it was last
Saturday for BT with 100 teams of 4. The woman at the cafe did say there
had been a large group doing it last Saturday, but she did also say 1,000
will be doing it this Saturday,. I must have got the BT connection wrong,
as it's Heart Research UK who are doing it this Saturday with hundreds of
walkers according to this web site
http://www.heartresearch.org.uk/three_peaks.htm

Wow, that's 1400 in two weeks....who's doing it the week after? I presuming
this must be good for local business! The Three Peaks will be the Three
Eroded Lumps shortly.

Graham

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If you Google it, it's 100 teams, four in a team, and they've done it
every year since 1999 without anyone noticing. Still worth avoiding,
however.

I find it that aiitude amazing groups of theis size are 'not a
problem', it appears that this is a weekly occurance this time of
year.

Yet if any of these people see 3 or 4 motorbikes on a legal unsurfaced
road then it is a 'real problem' because of erosion, etc. Now how much
is spent on the 3 peaks 'solving; ersosion problems caused by groups
of this size? Plus no doubt collecting all the litter as well.

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If you Google it, it's 100 teams, four in a team, and they've done it
every year since 1999 without anyone noticing. Still worth avoiding,
however.

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I find it that aiitude amazing groups of theis size are 'not a
problem', it appears that this is a weekly occurance this time of
year.

I am not sure which side of the fence you are on. Is it you who think
groups of this size are not a problem or are you aghast at the thought
of even 400 on a single event?

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Yet if any of these people see 3 or 4 motorbikes on a legal unsurfaced
road then it is a 'real problem' because of erosion, etc. Now how much
is spent on the 3 peaks 'solving; ersosion problems caused by groups
of this size? Plus no doubt collecting all the litter as well.

Personally I prefer not to be anywhere near large groups of people (10s
at that rather than 100s or 1000s) but I respect the right of those who
wish to venture onto BOATs and indeed of landowners, tenants or guests
thereof to go wherever they like.

Apart from anything else large groups cause traffic jams even on paths.
At stiles they are a complete pain in the [censored]. 1000 people queuing at a
stile would probably take more than 3 hours to pass.

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Nearest Marilyn still to be visited - Great Orme.
89 miles as the crow flies,
considerably more as the walker drives.

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Personally I prefer not to be anywhere near large groups of people (10s
at that rather than 100s or 1000s) but I respect the right of those who
wish to venture onto BOATs and indeed of landowners, tenants or guests
thereof to go wherever they like.

Apart from anything else large groups cause traffic jams even on paths.
At stiles they are a complete pain in the [censored]. 1000 people queuing at a
stile would probably take more than 3 hours to pass.

aye, I agree: I'm an ecologically sound hill walker who loves and values
the outdoors and solitude... Those other *****s I meet on the hill are just
tourist scum..

Ain't it great being smug?? ;-)

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Last Sunday we drove to Horton and then caught the train to Ribblehead
and
walked back to Horton over Ingleborough via the cafe at the barn on
Philpin
Lane. According to the woman at the cafe, BT have got 1,000 people doing
the 3 Peaks next Saturday 16th June, so if you are planning to be in the
area, you have been warned.

Absolutely stupid that sort of numbers. I hope the leaders will all get
stuck in the first bog they come to and form an impenetrable barrier
that the laggards cannot pass. :-)

I agree. I know there is the three peaks of England, Scotland and Wales
next week so it might be a confusion with that(or worse they might be on the
same w/e - thank heavens I live in South)

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If you Google it, it's 100 teams, four in a team, and they've done it
every year since 1999 without anyone noticing. Still worth avoiding,
however.

I find it that aiitude amazing groups of theis size are 'not a
problem', it appears that this is a weekly occurance this time of
year.

I am not sure which side of the fence you are on. Is it you who think
groups of this size are not a problem or are you aghast at the thought
of even 400 on a single event?

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Yet if any of these people see 3 or 4 motorbikes on a legal unsurfaced
road then it is a 'real problem' because of erosion, etc. Now how much
is spent on the 3 peaks 'solving; ersosion problems caused by groups
of this size? Plus no doubt collecting all the litter as well.

Personally I prefer not to be anywhere near large groups of people (10s
at that rather than 100s or 1000s) but I respect the right of those who
wish to venture onto BOATs and indeed of landowners, tenants or guests
thereof to go wherever they like.

Apart from anything else large groups cause traffic jams even on paths.
At stiles they are a complete pain in the [censored]. 1000 people queuing at a
stile would probably take more than 3 hours to pass.

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Roger Chapman
Nearest Marilyn still to be visited - Great Orme.
89 miles as the crow flies,
considerably more as the walker drives.

I do not like large groups, especially If I am walking in the opposite
direction!

Perhaps the landowner should enforce the NERC bill provision and
charge all users to cross their land, as it is an organised event,
sorry if I sound like a certain other individual on this group.

My main point was that this seems to be acceptable, and the tax payer
will pick up the bill for the erosion, damage to stiles etc. Sorry, I
am back in ***** mode.

But my personal view is, if people want to do this then fine, I just
hope I do not choose that day to do the same walk.

I have had a walk 'spoilt' in the Dark Peak because it was the grouse
season and the moors were closed, so we just did a slightly different
walk, not a problem, everone uses the countryside for their own
reason, I have no problem with any type of legal user of the
countryside.

Bernard said:

Given the dry conditions, it's a lot harder than normal to get wet and muddy
in the Dales at the moment.

What difference a few days makes!
I hope they can swim...

S.

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Roger said:

Absolutely stupid that sort of numbers. I hope the leaders will all get
stuck in the first bog they come to and form an impenetrable barrier
that the laggards cannot pass. :-)

Agree - the Corbett challenge is far more sensible. Or as organised
by the Wainwright Society in 2005 each Wainwright and Outlier was
allocated to an individual to be completed once within a period of a
week.

Last weekend in Wasdale we saw at first hand the vast number of
teams(!) that do the 3 peaks (Wales/England & Scotland).

David.

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Last weekend in Wasdale we saw at first hand the vast number of
teams(!) that do the 3 peaks (Wales/England & Scotland).

Is it still the case that every third or forth van sports a Fire Brigade
Insignia?

Incidentally I was under the impression that Seathwaite rather than
Wasdale was the preferred station for the National 3 Peaks juggernaut.

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Roger Chapman
Nearest Marilyn still to be visited - Great Orme.
89 miles as the crow flies,
considerably more as the walker drives.

Roger said:

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Last weekend in Wasdale we saw at first hand the vast number of
teams(!) that do the 3 peaks (Wales/England & Scotland).

Is it still the case that every third or forth van sports a Fire Brigade
Insignia?

The majority were hired white vans, all had a team number. Highest
number spotted was 50!!!! Some of the teams had 'posh?' big 4x4
MPV's, so much for saving the environment!!!!!

Having suffered the torture of driving to Wasdale, I agree that time
saved on ascent/descent (from Wasdale) could be negated by the quicker
drive time to Seathwaite.

Cheers David.

Regards David.

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Last weekend in Wasdale we saw at first hand the vast number of
teams(!) that do the 3 peaks (Wales/England & Scotland).

Is it still the case that every third or forth van sports a Fire Brigade
Insignia?

Incidentally I was under the impression that Seathwaite rather than
Wasdale was the preferred station for the National 3 Peaks juggernaut.

I seem to recall that some time ago the inhabitants of Seathwaite were
getting, quite rightly, a bit narked at the noise in the we small hours
and the state the local public loos were left in. So perhaps the circus
has relocated.

I reckon a far more character building challenge would be to walk round
and round Angus' house for 24 hours, then knock on the door and ask to
use the phone to book a taxi to Glasgow.

Roy.

Rob Devereux said:

I know there is the three peaks of England, Scotland and Wales
next week so it might be a confusion with that(or worse they might be on the
same w/e - thank heavens I live in South)

A walker who is thankful he lives in the South? That's must be a first.