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  1. "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over
    forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of
    your muscles than by the artifice of a derailleur? We are
    getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"

    - Henri Desgranges

    Henri Desgranges was a nasty [censored]. He strived to create
    a Tour where only a single rider, a survivor, could complete
    the event. To that end he included the first big Pyreneean
    cols in 1910. In 1911 he added the Alps, including a monster
    366km stage from Chamonix to Grenoble featuring the first
    passage of the Col du Galibier. Emile Georget took the col
    and the stage, scaling the Galibier with only a single gear
    on each side of his hub, and allowing only 4 riders to finish
    within an hour of his time.

    The Col du Galibier became a regular feature of the Tour,
    passing over in every edition until well after his death in
    1940.

    Now what you need to remember is that the route of the road
    over the col has changed over the years. As you traverse the
    southern route from the Col du Lautaret try to find the trace
    of the old road to the east. Imagine yourself climbing in a
    fixed gear over a dirt road. Now imagine giving yourself a lot
    less distance to gain that elevation and you have a picture
    of what life was like with the old road, which was abandoned
    in 1938.

    This is what the Michelin map looked like in 1947:
    http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/images/divers/galibier_carte_michelin.jpg

    From 'Les Mystères des routes du Galibier':
    http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/dossiers/dos_galibier.php

    1933 saw Vincente Trueba scale the Galibier on his way to
    becoming the first King of the Mountains in an unofficial
    competition that Degrange would add for real the next year.

    In 1935 the old road saw the stage of the Tour where Francisco
    Cepeda fell and broke his skull, suffering a fatal injury.

    In 1976 the tunnel was closed for safety reasons. This allowed
    riders in the Tour to savor the steepest sections of the route
    at the very end as the road took the stiff jog from the tunnel
    entrance up to the Col. Lucien Van Impe was the first to score
    KOM points at the top.

    In 1996 everyone was expecting Miguel Indurain to rule again in
    July as he had the five prior years. But he failed badly in the
    Alps at Les Arcs where Berzin became the first Russian to wear
    the yellow jersey. Indurain failed again the following day in
    his specialty, the time trial. This was an uphill race, and
    Berzin won it to extend his lead.

    That set up one of the most epic stages to never actually happen.
    Already facing a severe test over the Galibier and the Col de
    l'Iseran and finishing at Sestrieres, the organizers regarded
    the gale force winds and snowstorm at the higher altitudes as
    a bit much, and detoured to a mere 46 km from Sestrieres.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/1996/snow.jpg
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/1996/devil.jpg

    There Bjarne Riis survived the adverse conditions to destroy
    Berzin, Indurain, and the rest to take a yellow jersey he would
    keep to the end. Today this is a race known mostly for dope, as
    if there is a shot you could take to allow you to ride
    comfortably on a day where any sane person would never venture
    out.

    Two years later Jan Ullrich would arrive in Grenoble with a 3
    minute advantage over fourth placed Marco Pantani. All that
    would unravel as they rode over the Col du Galibier. In an icy
    rain he would still have 30 seconds to give to Pantani at the
    top of the Col. But the effort took to much out of him and he
    would reach a state of collapse at the stage finish at Les Deux
    Alpes. Finishing almost nine minutes in arrears it was more time
    than he could make up in the remaining time trial. This race
    also is remembered for dope, as if the courage it takes to
    continue riding as hypothermia sets in can come from a syringe.

    Bob Schwartz

  2. Bob Schwartz said:

    Now what you need to remember is that the route of the road
    over the col has changed over the years. As you traverse the
    southern route from the Col du Lautaret try to find the trace
    of the old road to the east. [...]
    This is what the Michelin map looked like in 1947:
    http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/images/divers/galibier_carte_michelin.jpg

    http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/earth/galibier_sud.jpg
    (886x911 172KB)

    Col de Lautaret bottom centre crossing, Col de Galibier top-most blue
    "i". Current road in orange, old road clearly visible to the right.
    They join just below the hairpins.

    --
    E. Dronkert

  3. I said:

    Col de Galibier

    du

    --
    E. Dronkert

  4. Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Bob Schwartz said:

    Now what you need to remember is that the route of the road
    over the col has changed over the years. As you traverse the
    southern route from the Col du Lautaret try to find the trace
    of the old road to the east. [...]
    This is what the Michelin map looked like in 1947:
    http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/images/divers/galibier_carte_michelin.jpg

    http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/earth/galibier_sud.jpg
    (886x911 172KB)

    Col de Lautaret bottom centre crossing, Col de Galibier top-most blue
    "i". Current road in orange, old road clearly visible to the right.
    They join just below the hairpins.

    Very cool.

    The Memoire du Cyclisme article calculates that takes the gradient
    from 7.11% to 9.76%, a pretty significant difference. Lots of stages
    the included the Galibier began in Grenoble or Briancon which likely
    would have taken then over from the south.

    http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/eta_tdf_1903_1913/tdf1911_5.php

    Bob Schwartz

  5. Ewoud Dronkert said:
    I said:

    Col de Galibier

    du

    do'h

  6. Bob Schwartz said:

    "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over
    forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of
    your muscles than by the artifice of a derailleur? We are
    getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"

    - Henri Desgranges

    http://www.midcalracing.com/kaiser2004.htm

  7. Bob Schwartz said:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/1996/snow.jpg
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/1996/devil.jpg

    Quoted message said:

    There Bjarne Riis survived the adverse conditions to destroy
    Berzin, Indurain, and the rest to take a yellow jersey he would
    keep to the end. Today this is a race known mostly for dope, as
    if there is a shot you could take to allow you to ride
    comfortably on a day where any sane person would never venture
    out.

    Pre-EPO:

    http://www.mortirolo.de/gavia.jpg
    http://pelotonjim.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/gavia-andy.jpg

    (Shameless plug: http://www.cinghiale.com/ ; sold out: http://www.cinghiale.com/tours/2007/dolomiti.htm )

    Dan

  8. Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Col de Galibier

    Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Quoted message said:

    du

    RonSonic said:

    do'h

  9. In article
    <[email hidden]>,
    Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Bob Schwartz said:

    Now what you need to remember is that the route of the road
    over the col has changed over the years. As you traverse the
    southern route from the Col du Lautaret try to find the trace
    of the old road to the east. [...]
    This is what the Michelin map looked like in 1947:
    http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/images/divers/galibier_carte_michelin.jpg

    http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/earth/galibier_sud.jpg
    (886x911 172KB)

    Col de Lautaret bottom centre crossing, Col de Galibier top-most blue
    "i". Current road in orange, old road clearly visible to the right.
    They join just below the hairpins.

    Thanks. Where is the old tunnel? At the upper junction?

    --
    Michael Press

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Bob Schwartz said:

    Now what you need to remember is that the route of the road
    over the col has changed over the years. As you traverse the
    southern route from the Col du Lautaret try to find the trace
    of the old road to the east. [...]
    This is what the Michelin map looked like in 1947:
    http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/images/divers/galibier_carte_michelin.jpg

    http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/earth/galibier_sud.jpg
    (886x911 172KB)

    Col de Lautaret bottom centre crossing, Col de Galibier top-most blue
    "i". Current road in orange, old road clearly visible to the right.
    They join just below the hairpins.

    The old road looks pretty damn tough. Not that the new one looks particularly
    easy, of course.

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    Never take a tenant with a monkey.

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  11. Michael Press said:

    Thanks. Where is the old tunnel? At the upper junction?

    I don't know exactly. I only know the entrance on the other side, next
    to the 'refuge' near the top. The resolution of the maps is quite low
    but you can see it here: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/329316
    That little stretch of road straight towars us leads to the tunnel.

    Ah wait (just browsing the panoramio pics in google earth), this must
    be the south entrance: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/331890 (And
    another from the north: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/332112)

    So this should the tunnel:
    http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/earth/galibier_tunnel.jpg

    --
    E. Dronkert

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