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  1. Allopathic medicine is based on monomorphism or the germ
    theory. Disease is an invasion by an outside force, inury,
    metabolic defect or organism. The battle cry is "kill the
    germ, burn the germ, cut the germ out." The germ theory has
    served as the basis for traditional Western medicine for
    over a century and was created by man.

    The alternative healing approach is based on plemorphic
    theory. Create an environment of balance in the body that
    will not support any invading microorganism. The concept of
    harmony and balance is a God-given protection that exists
    naturally at the time of our birth.

    If we consider the success of the germ theory in the "fight"
    against cancer, we get a representative picture of the
    effectiveness of the narrow view. Cancer is not a localized
    disturbance. You do not contract cancer of the elbow, or
    toe. When you have cancer diagnosed it is of the whole body.
    People constantly have the part removed where the cancer
    manifested and have it return elsewhere at a later time. If
    you remove the elbow without changing the environment, the
    cancer will eventually manifest elsewhere.

    We all know (assume) the American Cancer Society exists to
    cure cancer. It spends 1 million dollars a day on its
    mandate. We have become accustomed to headlines announcing a
    "cancer breakthrough". These headlines have been occurring
    since 1924 and yet the incidence of cancer has steadily
    increased. In 1924 cancer was the 8th leading cause of
    death, has now become the second lead cause of death and is
    predicted to become the number one leading cause of death in
    North America.

    It appears the germ theory has failed as an approach to
    improve our health.

  2. "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    We all know (assume) the American Cancer Society exists to
    cure cancer. It spends 1 million dollars a day on its
    mandate. We have become accustomed to headlines announcing
    a "cancer breakthrough".

    Yeah, that's the one-way media for you.

    Quoted message said:

    These headlines have been occurring since 1924 and yet the
    incidence of cancer has steadily increased. In 1924 cancer
    was the 8th leading cause of death, has now become the
    second lead cause of death and is predicted to become the
    number one leading cause of death in North America.

    That might have something to do with people living
    longer, maybe certain cancers are more likely to appear
    later in life.

    Quoted message said:


    It appears the germ theory has failed as an approach to
    improve our health.

  3. "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Allopathic medicine is based on monomorphism or the
    germ theory.

    1. All medicine other than true homeopathy is allopathic --
    herbalism, naturopathy, TCM.

    Even chiropactic. Yet it appears to be chiropractors who
    resurrected this arachaic term in modern times to make it
    look as though modern scientific medicine was merely one of
    many broadly equivalent theories of illness. If you can make
    proper medicine look smaller, nonsense may not look so bad.
    (I refer to the chiropractic theory that the spine is the
    key to all illness)

    But modern medicine is a transparently eclectic and
    empirical discipline, not driven by philosophical leanings,
    or any single theory. Thus if highly improbable rays that
    cannot be seen or felt, and that will pass through solid
    matter can be shown to help make diagnoses and treat some
    illnesses, medicine will use them (xrays). It picked the
    eyes out of herbalism, and even found a lot of previously
    unknown herbal products that are useful in cancer treatment.
    It has tried out snake venom in treating clotting disorders.
    It has provided everything that that we really know for sure
    about nutrition, including about vitamins, minerals, and
    caloric requirements. It alone has tried to grapple with the
    mysteries of the human psyche and its relationship to
    various illnesses, and been able to correct mistakes in its
    own attribution of illness to psychological causes. It alone
    tests everything out critically as it goes, thus avoiding
    the thrall of the innumerable false hypotheses that prevail
    within homeopathy and allopathic forms of alternative
    medicine..

    This list could go on forever. I could also list what I see
    as its faults as it is applied in practice. These do
    overlap the complaints of AM suporters, but that discussion
    lies elsewhere.

    2. If this statement is true, why can one look at any
    medical textbook and find that infective illnesses take
    up less than a fifth? What happened to the usual list of
    known causes of illness that extends into hundreds?

    Having created this monumental straw man this piece goes on
    to prove is that many alt writers don't know zip about real
    medicine and never care to do any real research before they
    open their mouths.

    (# allopathy (allo=-other)was a term Hannemann, the founder
    of homeopathy, coined to refer to medical treatments that
    contrast in some way from the "like cures like" princicple
    of homeopathy. According to that principle an effective
    medical treatment had to be able to produce symptoms similar
    to the disease or illness it is intended to treat.

    Yes, I know it is silly, but two hundred years ago everyone
    was casting around for some overall guiding principle that
    would govern medical treatment. Superstition and religious
    ideations dominated. No one knew how complex human pathology
    would turn out to be. )

    Peter Moran

  4. Quoted message said:

    Subject: The Germ Theory...
    From: "Dave Wickware" [email hidden]
    Date: 5/7/04 7:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    You are now getting to the truth of it.

    Modern medicine known as Western Medicine, the Medicine of
    the Americans, or Allopathic medicine is one grand
    DECEPTION. It is all smoke and mirrors.

    Orthopathy, Greek for "truth in disease" was started in 1822
    in the US and is a true American Theory of Disease. You see,
    it is not disease ( that is the deception ) it is dis-ease,
    the body is not at ease, the body is not in homeostasis.

    This was later confirmed by A. Bechamp with his microzyma
    theory which proved Pasteur was a con artist ( circa 1870).
    However, due to Pasteur's prominence, Pasteur was able to
    hide the truth and keep the microzyma theory covered up.

    Rosenow proved that bacteria are pleomorphic in 1914 in a
    peer reviewed journal. Yet his data is ignored just as
    Bechamp's data was ignored by those profitting from the
    false concept of the germ.

    Yep, the germ theory of disease is a con, a deception, but
    one heck of a money making gimmick.

    DrC PhD

  5. This is very interesting, but how is it proposed that dis-
    ease is transmitted from one person to another in proximity?

    "DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040507190302.16730.00000881@mb-
    m12.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: The Germ Theory... From: "Dave Wickware"
    [email hidden] Date: 5/7/04 7:44 AM Eastern
    Daylight Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    You are now getting to the truth of it.

    Modern medicine known as Western Medicine, the Medicine of
    the Americans,


    or

    Quoted message said:

    Allopathic medicine is one grand DECEPTION. It is all
    smoke and mirrors.

    Orthopathy, Greek for "truth in disease" was started in
    1822 in the US and


    is a

    Quoted message said:

    true American Theory of Disease. You see, it is not
    disease ( that is the deception ) it is dis-ease, the body
    is not at ease, the body is not in homeostasis.

    This was later confirmed by A. Bechamp with his microzyma
    theory which


    proved

    Quoted message said:

    Pasteur was a con artist ( circa 1870). However, due to
    Pasteur's


    prominence,

    Quoted message said:

    Pasteur was able to hide the truth and keep the microzyma
    theory covered


    up.

    Quoted message said:


    Rosenow proved that bacteria are pleomorphic in 1914 in a
    peer reviewed journal. Yet his data is ignored just as
    Bechamp's data was ignored by


    those

    Quoted message said:

    profitting from the false concept of the germ.

    Yep, the germ theory of disease is a con, a deception, but
    one heck of a


    money

    Quoted message said:

    making gimmick.

    DrC PhD

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    John Doe said:

    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    We all know (assume) the American Cancer Society exists
    to cure cancer. It spends 1 million dollars a day on its
    mandate. We have become accustomed to headlines
    announcing a "cancer breakthrough".

    Yeah, that's the one-way media for you.

    Quoted message said:

    These headlines have been occurring since 1924 and yet
    the incidence of cancer has steadily increased. In 1924
    cancer was the 8th leading cause of death, has now become
    the second lead cause of death and is predicted to become
    the number one leading cause of death in North America.

    That might have something to do with people living
    longer, maybe certain cancers are more likely to appear
    later in life.

    In general, cancer is a disease of old age, the increase in
    childhood cancers notwithstanding.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  7. "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    "]news:[email hidden]
    s.com.au:

    Quoted message said:

    treatment. It has tried out snake venom in treating
    clotting disorders. It has provided everything that that
    we really know for

    That always reminds me of the fact that a little over two-and-a-
    half years ago, I was lying, bored out of my skull, in a
    hospital bed with a bottle of synthetic rattlesnake venom
    (Integrellin) running into an IV, all because one Saturday I
    had a persistent annoying, but hardly painful, sensation in
    my chest. Yes, I fulfilled the stereotype and eventually
    drove myself to the ER (or do you call it "casualty"?) after
    getting a little worried (I nearly walked out and drove back
    home after waiting 10 minutes for someone to show up at the
    desk). I got a little scared when the initial bloodwork came
    back and the response was to offer me an aspirin (knowing
    that by 2001, ASA was mostly used as a platelet aggregation
    inhibitor rather than an analgesic).

    Despite my liberal political leanings, I have to strongly
    disagree with those who complain that US Vice President [censored]
    Cheney's most recent MI was "covered up"; my *PERSONAL
    EXPERIENCE* tells me that it takes at least a day or so to
    properly diagnose a non-Q-wave MI. And throughout the whole
    thing (admitted Saturday, discharged Thursday, after an
    angiogram/angioplasty/stenting on Wednesday, during which it
    was observed that my LAD was 80% blocked) I never *felt* bad
    (the annoying sensation disappeared on the first day; if I
    didn't have a half-decent grasp of A&P, I'd have been
    demanding to leave). Subjective evaluations of health status
    often fall flat.

    (Weird stuff: on the first day, I had a nitroglycerin patch,
    which did *not* result in any headache or other typical side
    effects, although I was warned of them, and which to this
    day I cannot tell whether or not it affected my "pain."
    During the catheterization (oh, speaking of a different sort
    of catheter, I got a Foley and was subsequently told I
    should have got a Texas; urination after removal was far
    less painful than I expected) I got a rather pleasant buzz
    from the IV sedation, which I was told was merely Versed
    (midazolam), which almost nobody regards as pleasant and
    which is supposed to be seriously anamnestic. I can remember
    just about all of the procedure (the memories mostly
    involving relief that the blockage could be resolved
    percutaneously). I can only guess that it was actually
    fentanyl+midazolam, with me having an atypical response to
    the latter. The day after discharge, I became quite
    cognizant of the benefits of uninterrupted sleep and the
    detriments of the lack of such; on more than one occasion, I
    had asked the MICU/CCU staff to either tone it down or close
    my door, typically around 3 AM).

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave Wickware said:

    Allopathic medicine is based on monomorphism or the germ
    theory. Disease is an invasion by an outside force, inury,
    metabolic defect or organism. The battle cry is "kill the
    germ, burn the germ, cut the germ out."

    No, *infectious* disease is based on the germ theory.
    Noninfectious diseases, like muscular dystrophy, are not.

    Quoted message said:

    The germ theory has served as the basis for traditional
    Western medicine for over a century and was created by man.

    And has served brilliantly.

    Quoted message said:

    The alternative healing approach is based on plemorphic
    theory. Create an environment of balance in the body that
    will not support any invading microorganism. The concept of
    harmony and balance is a God-given protection that exists
    naturally at the time of our birth.

    But apparently not before or after that instant. Even
    embryos can get cancer. And they can suffer birth defects if
    the mother gets, say, rubella at the wrong time.

    Quoted message said:

    If we consider the success of the germ theory in the
    "fight" against cancer, we get a representative picture of
    the effectiveness of the narrow view.

    Ah, I see. Spammin' Dave Wickware is once again spouting
    nonsense. Nobody claims that most cancers are caused by
    germs. (Some are, like cervical cancer, but most are not.)

    Quoted message said:

    Cancer is not a localized disturbance. You do not contract
    cancer of the elbow, or toe. When you have cancer diagnosed
    it is of the whole body.

    Sure it is. That's why you can have a basal cell carcinoma
    sliced off and be fine for the rest of your life -- because
    your whole body is compromised.

    The trouble with morons like Spammin' Dave is that they (a)
    don't realize how ignorant they are, and (b) don't realize
    that most other people are not that ignorant.

    Quoted message said:

    People constantly have the part removed where the cancer
    manifested and have it return elsewhere at a later time. If
    you remove the elbow without changing the environment, the
    cancer will eventually manifest elsewhere.

    That depends on whether the cancer has spread already at
    the time it is removed. If I kill a single fly in my house,
    no problem; if the fly has already laid eggs, I still have
    a problem.

    Quoted message said:

    We all know (assume) the American Cancer Society exists to
    cure cancer. It spends 1 million dollars a day on its
    mandate. We have become accustomed to headlines announcing
    a "cancer breakthrough". These headlines have been
    occurring since 1924 and yet the incidence of cancer has
    steadily increased.

    Only some of them. And you have to adjust for the age of the
    population to know whether things are getting worse or not.

    Quoted message said:

    In 1924 cancer was the 8th leading cause of death, has
    now become the second lead cause of death and is
    predicted to become the number one leading cause of death
    in North America.

    Which has nothing to do with "germs," Spammin' Dave, you
    incredible moron.

    And cancer has become so significant only because other
    causes have been driven down so far. Why don't you tell us
    what the ten leading causes of death were in 1924?

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  9. "DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: The Germ Theory... From: "Dave Wickware"
    [email hidden] Date: 5/7/04 7:44 AM Eastern
    Daylight Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    You are now getting to the truth of it.

    Modern medicine known as Western Medicine, the Medicine of
    the Americans,


    or

    Quoted message said:

    Allopathic medicine is one grand DECEPTION. It is all
    smoke and mirrors.

    Orthopathy, Greek for "truth in disease" was started in
    1822 in the US and


    is a

    Quoted message said:

    true American Theory of Disease. You see, it is not
    disease ( that is the deception ) it is dis-ease, the body
    is not at ease, the body is not in homeostasis.

    This was later confirmed by A. Bechamp with his microzyma
    theory which


    proved

    Quoted message said:

    Pasteur was a con artist ( circa 1870). However, due to
    Pasteur's


    prominence,

    Quoted message said:

    Pasteur was able to hide the truth and keep the microzyma
    theory covered


    up.

    Quoted message said:


    Rosenow proved that bacteria are pleomorphic in 1914 in a
    peer reviewed journal. Yet his data is ignored just as
    Bechamp's data was ignored by


    those

    Quoted message said:

    profitting from the false concept of the germ.

    Yep, the germ theory of disease is a con, a deception, but
    one heck of a


    money

    Quoted message said:

    making gimmick.

    The history of medicine is fascinating (when you look at
    what people really said. )

    You can read Bechamp's work at the site below. So far as I
    can gather, he did not dispute the existence of germs and
    other microorganism such as yeast, and actually often uses
    the term "germ". He was aware of the microsopic studies of
    Virchow and Leuwenhock demonstrating them, and understood
    that the experiments of Pasteur and others on fermentation
    proved the existence of airborne germs that could be
    destroyed by heat of creosote. The preface is wrong when it
    says Pasteur continued to believe in spontaneous generation
    and Bechamp argued against it - Pasteuris the one mainly
    given credit for disproving that theory.

    He also understood that syphillis, typhoid and cholera could
    be transmitted from patient to patient, but argued correctly
    that these could not be transmitted by airborne germs.

    He merely tried to argue that fermentation and other
    activities of microrganisms were due to microorganisms
    secreting particulate bodies he called zymas. He thought he
    could see these under the microscope. His observations are
    completely explained by the enzymic activity of
    microorganisms and the prevalence of artefact in the crude
    early days of microscsopy.

    Pleomorphism was an idea proposed by by Rife and Livingstone-
    Wheeler, but there is no evidence at all that bacteria can
    change into other bacteria, and a lot against.

    sumeria.netblood.html

    Peter Moran

    Quoted message said:


    DrC PhD

  10. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yeh I often wonder HOW my grandfather's TB transmitted to
    my kid brother, who then spent almost two years (1947 &
    1948 )in a TB sanitorium in Pontiac, MI between the age of
    5 & 7 just because he lived with us in the 1940ties. Must
    have been a coincidence.


    Bad genetics.

  11. You are stating that the "germ theory" is false and yet
    present no other alternative. Now I realize that this does
    not make your statement false but people need alternative
    theories to accept something else.

    Perhaps this is a shortcoming of the inquisitive human
    mind. Offered any theory, in the lack of another one, they
    have no choice but to believe the one offered, regardless
    of how silly.

    Have a great one!

    "DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040507225845.07718.00000371@mb-
    m24.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The Germ Theory... From: "Gymmy Bob"
    [email hidden] Date: 5/7/04 8:45 PM Eastern Daylight
    Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    This is very interesting, but how is it proposed that dis-
    ease is transmitted from one person to another in
    proximity?

    How does a con-artist con?

    A child may believe in Santa Claus. An adult knows better,
    but he believes in germs. A well educated and informed
    person knows that germs, as such, do not


    exist,

    Quoted message said:

    but how do you convince a decieved adult human? Difficult
    problem.

    You first must accept the possiblilty that the germ theory
    of disease is


    false.

    Quoted message said:


    You must then look for other answers. The answers are
    there. The answers exist in the published literature. The
    answers exist in the writings and


    the

    Quoted message said:

    journals of those doctors who knew the truth.

    It is not an easy journey.

    Common sense, some knowledge of chemistry and physiology
    and maybe, some pharmacology, will lead you to the truth.

    If you can ever accept the dis-ease truth, you will know
    that no sick


    human can

    Quoted message said:

    make a healthy human sick, regardless of the proximity. If
    a sick human


    could

    Quoted message said:

    really make a healthy human sick, the last profession you
    would choose


    would

    Quoted message said:

    be....MEDICINE.

    Good luck,

    DrC PhD

  12. "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    John Doe said:

    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    We all know (assume) the American Cancer Society exists
    to cure cancer. It spends 1 million dollars a day on
    its mandate. We have become accustomed to headlines
    announcing a "cancer breakthrough".

    Yeah, that's the one-way media for you.

    Quoted message said:

    These headlines have been occurring since 1924 and yet
    the incidence of cancer has steadily increased. In 1924
    cancer was the 8th leading cause of death, has now
    become the second lead cause of death and is predicted
    to become the number one leading cause of death in
    North America.

    That might have something to do with people living
    longer, maybe certain cancers are more likely to appear
    later in life.

    In general, cancer is a disease of old age, the increase
    in childhood cancers notwithstanding.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)


    David, did you work hard to become so ignorant?

  13. "Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You are stating that the "germ theory" is false and yet
    present no other alternative. Now I realize that this does
    not make your statement false


    but

    Quoted message said:

    people need alternative theories to accept something else.

    And I guess you would also like an explanation of why you
    should accept the assertions being made. IOW what the
    evidence actually shows.

    Peter Moran

    Quoted message said:


    Perhaps this is a shortcoming of the inquisitive human
    mind. Offered any theory, in the lack of another one, they
    have no choice but to believe the one offered, regardless
    of how silly.

    Have a great one!

    "DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040507225845.07718.00000371@mb-
    m24.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The Germ Theory... From: "Gymmy Bob"
    [email hidden] Date: 5/7/04 8:45 PM Eastern
    Daylight Time Message-id: <KL-
    [email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    This is very interesting, but how is it proposed that
    dis-ease is transmitted from one person to another in
    proximity?

    How does a con-artist con?

    A child may believe in Santa Claus. An adult knows
    better, but he believes in germs. A well educated and
    informed person knows that germs, as such, do not


    exist,

    Quoted message said:

    but how do you convince a decieved adult human?
    Difficult problem.

    You first must accept the possiblilty that the germ
    theory of disease is


    false.

    Quoted message said:


    You must then look for other answers. The answers are
    there. The


    answers

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    exist in the published literature. The answers exist in
    the writings


    and

    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:

    journals of those doctors who knew the truth.

    It is not an easy journey.

    Common sense, some knowledge of chemistry and physiology
    and maybe, some pharmacology, will lead you to the
    truth.

    If you can ever accept the dis-ease truth, you will know
    that no sick


    human can

    Quoted message said:

    make a healthy human sick, regardless of the proximity.
    If a sick human


    could

    Quoted message said:

    really make a healthy human sick, the last profession
    you would choose


    would

    Quoted message said:

    be....MEDICINE.

    Good luck,

    DrC PhD

  14. Troll.

    "thisisfun" <[email hidden]> wrote

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    "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    John Doe said:

    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote

    <snip>

    > We all know (assume) the American Cancer Society
    > exists to cure cancer. It spends 1 million dollars a
    > day on its mandate. We have become accustomed to
    > headlines announcing a "cancer breakthrough".

    Yeah, that's the one-way media for you.

    > These headlines have been occurring since 1924 and yet
    > the incidence of cancer has steadily increased. In
    > 1924 cancer was the 8th leading cause of death, has
    > now become the second lead cause of death and is
    > predicted to become the number one leading cause of
    > death in North America.

    That might have something to do with people living
    longer, maybe certain cancers are more likely to appear
    later in life.

    In general, cancer is a disease of old age, the increase
    in childhood cancers notwithstanding.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These
    are my opinions only, but they're almost always
    correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is
    because giants were standing on my shoulders." (Hal
    Abelson, MIT)


    David, did you work hard to become so ignorant?

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,

    John Doe said:

    Troll.

    Since your only contribution here seems to be reposting
    things, in their entirety (including headers), and
    adding one-line accusations of "troll," my suggestion to
    you is this:

    1) Print out all of your postings on heavy-stock paper
    2) Crumple them up until they have sharp corners
    everywhere
    3) Shove them up your ass.

    You are contributing nothing here. Either contribute
    or shut up.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

    Quoted message said:

    "thisisfun" <[email hidden]> wrote

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    "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    In article
    <[email hidden]>, John Doe
    <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >"Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote
    >
    ><snip>
    >
    >> We all know (assume) the American Cancer Society
    >> exists to cure cancer. It spends 1 million dollars a
    >> day on its mandate. We have become accustomed to
    >> headlines announcing a "cancer breakthrough".
    >
    >Yeah, that's the one-way media for you.
    >
    >> These headlines have been occurring since 1924 and
    >> yet the incidence of cancer has steadily increased.
    >> In 1924 cancer was the 8th leading cause of death,
    >> has now become the second lead cause of death and is
    >> predicted to become the number one leading cause of
    >> death in North America.
    >
    >That might have something to do with people living
    >longer, maybe certain cancers are more likely to appear
    >later in life.

    In general, cancer is a disease of old age, the increase
    in childhood cancers notwithstanding.


    David, did you work hard to become so ignorant?

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    thisisfun said:


    "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    John Doe said:

    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote

    <snip>

    > We all know (assume) the American Cancer Society
    > exists to cure cancer. It spends 1 million dollars a
    > day on its mandate. We have become accustomed to
    > headlines announcing a "cancer breakthrough".

    Yeah, that's the one-way media for you.

    > These headlines have been occurring since 1924 and yet
    > the incidence of cancer has steadily increased. In
    > 1924 cancer was the 8th leading cause of death, has
    > now become the second lead cause of death and is
    > predicted to become the number one leading cause of
    > death in North America.

    That might have something to do with people living
    longer, maybe certain cancers are more likely to appear
    later in life.

    In general, cancer is a disease of old age, the increase
    in childhood cancers notwithstanding.


    David, did you work hard to become so ignorant?

    If you think I'm wrong, tools, let's see your evidence. Many
    cancers are slow-growing or late developing. Lung cancer,
    for example, is almost never seen in young people.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  17. Troll.

    [email hidden] (David Wright) wrote

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    Quoted message said:

    Since your only contribution here seems to be reposting
    things, in their entirety (including headers), and
    adding one-line accusations of "troll," my suggestion to
    you is this:

    1) Print out all of your postings on heavy-stock paper
    2) Crumple them up until they have sharp corners
    everywhere
    3) Shove them up your ass.

    You are contributing nothing here. Either contribute or
    shut up.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  18. Thanx much.

    "DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040509102031.13455.00000117@mb-
    m06.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The Germ Theory... From: "Gymmy Bob"
    [email hidden] Date: 5/8/04 9:46 AM Eastern Daylight
    Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    You are stating that the "germ theory" is false and yet
    present no other alternative.

    I have been teaching an alternative for over 10 years now.
    The best


    alternative

    Quoted message said:

    is orthopathic medicine, started in the US in 1822.

    Do a google search on these two topics: The physiological
    laws of life. Seven stages of dis-ease.

    The stages are enervation, toxemia, irritation,
    inflammation, induration, ulceration, and lastly
    fungation. Fungation is cancer formation.

    Let me know if you can't find the articles.

    DrC PhD

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