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The KH prototype geared MUni. (from moab)

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  1. mscalisi said:

    ...but it is one of Florian's isn't it?

    Regarding the new design, does it require a special frame? How does it
    attach to the bearing holders?

    Yes, it's made by Florian. I don't know how different the frame was,
    but the attachment to it was simply friction within the bearing
    holders. Kris said it hasn't posed any problem for him yet.

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  2. kris was a beast in that movie...

    ive never seen kris in a movie before...

    neither have i seen anyone go down a trail like that at that speeds!
    and was he in a normal 24" mode or in a higher gear?

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  3. Kris told us that one side was a normal bearing holder and the other
    side had a sleeve or something like that that connects it to the frame
    so you don't have to have the fixed arm like the other geared unis.

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    chosen said:

    wish i could be in a signature...*sigh*

    James_Potter said:

    I think we could just apply the same cure we use for bread, to humans.
    just scrape off the cancer with a butter knife, then put jelly on it,
    and eat it...mmmmmm


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  4. sounds sweet. i wish i was a "god of muni" so i could just go and design
    some flipping sweet unicycle. and than sell a whole bunch.

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  5. These are AMAZING. While I already have a 24" MUni, I'm in the market
    for a Coker. If these are out soon I might go for one on a 29" wheel,
    which would be the most excellent cross-country/road machine (with big
    apple) ever. Totally excited, this is so awesome!

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  6. Hey,

    The geared hub is a collaborative project between Schlumpf and KHU and
    will be sold in the KH lineup, starting later this year. No fixed date
    yet but probably towards mid/late summer. Basically it builds on the
    existing Schlumpf design in ways that I think will be an improvement
    for Muni and a design improvement in general. It will be available in
    any size of KH frame.

    Some of the differences between it and the existing hub are:
    -wider flange-flange spacing (standard 100mm bearing width)
    -ISIS spline
    -stronger internals
    -lever arm located as a sleeve within a standard 42mm bearing housing
    -extra wide bearings, actually two 37mm bearings on each side inside a
    standard 12mm x 42mm casing. This increases frame stiffness by
    reducing bearing flex.

    So far I've tested it for about 4 months on the Vancouver North Shore
    and now at Moab. It has stood up really well, with lots of aggressive
    riding and drops up to 2 metres (with good transitions), and it feels
    the same as when I initially installed it. It doesn't feel
    discernibly heavier when riding compared to the existing KH24. I
    haven't weight the proto but I think it's probably less than 1/2 lb.
    heavier than a normal hub- not too much.

    The shifter button broke but it was completely my fault- I packed it
    terribly heading to Moab and a spoke from another unicycle jammed
    between the shifter button and the frame, bending it in the baggage
    handling process. I tried to bend it back and broke it. I might still
    look at some minor changes to strengthen it though.

    Shifting is easy and quick on paved terrain (once you are used to it),
    and quite difficult on bumpy terrain. The 1.5:1 gear ratio is quite
    high and is mostly useful for fast riding on really easy singletrack or
    fire roads or on pavement. We could make it less (perhaps 1.3:1) but
    I think it's best to keep it high, because many riders will want it for
    road touring and commutes to/from the trailhead. Riding in high gear
    feels like a Coker with the manouverability of a KH24- pretty cool.

    It will be a bit more expensive than the existing Schlumpf, which
    remains a very good choice for on-road riding. No fixed price yet
    but the goal is to have it around US$1600 to US$1700 including the uni.
    Sounds expensive but a few years ago a regular KH24 was almost this
    much =).

    Kris

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  7. danger_uni said:

    Hey,

    Some of the differences between it and the existing hub are:
    -wider flange-flange spacing (standard 100mm bearing width)
    -ISIS spline

    Will future non-geared KH hubs be moving to ISIS splines?

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  8. So would we be able to just buy the hub and cranks and use it in a
    previous KH frame and buy the different bearing holder separately? Do
    you have a ballpark guess of the price of just the hub? If I had a job
    then I might want to relace one of my wheels with it if I didn't have
    to buy the whole new uni.

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    chosen said:

    wish i could be in a signature...*sigh*

    James_Potter said:

    I think we could just apply the same cure we use for bread, to humans.
    just scrape off the cancer with a butter knife, then put jelly on it,
    and eat it...mmmmmm


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  9. litldude2 said:

    So would we be able to just buy the hub and cranks and use it in a
    previous KH frame and buy the different bearing holder separately? Do
    you have a ballpark guess of the price of just the hub? If I had a job
    then I might want to relace one of my wheels with it if I didn't have
    to buy the whole new uni.

    $1600 to $1700 less cost of KH24 without hub ($520-$217) is ~ $1300 to
    $1400.

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  10. On the contrary, this will be the least expensive splined shiftable MUni
    on the market.

    danger_uni said:

    .
    Sounds expensive but a few years ago a regular KH24 was almost this
    much =).

    Kris

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  11. mscalisi said:

    On the contrary, this will be the least expensive splined shiftable MUni
    on the market.

    because there is only one splined shiftable muni on the market😄

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