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  1. It's a unicycle, or...?

    Powered with a 200 hp electric motor, this contraption is planned to
    break the world speed record for single-wheeled vehicles, that allegedly
    stands at 90 km/h. (Hey, who holds that old record and with what?). But
    the current version has only a 6 hp motor and doesn't exceed 50 km/h.

    More info on 'www.theriotwheel.com' (http://www.theriotwheel.com). I
    stole the picture from there (and resized it).

    Klaas Bil

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  2. That looks like a death trap. If that seat ever touches the ground
    while seriously riding, that guy will get crushed underneith the wheel.
    As soon as the base of the wheel hits something, like a rock or pot
    hole, the bottom of the wheel will slow, relative to the top of the
    wheel, in terms of forward velocity, and the wheel will suddenly force
    the seat into the ground.... i think. I couldn't imagine the computer
    and mechanics for the balancing mechanism being fast enough to move the
    extra weight backward to rebalance the thing. Good luck to the guy
    though.

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  3. hecklar said:

    *That looks like a death trap. If that seat ever touches the ground
    while seriously riding, that guy will get crushed underneith the
    wheel. As soon as the base of the wheel hits something, like a rock
    or pot hole, the bottom of the wheel will slow, relative to the top of
    the wheel, in terms of forward velocity, and the wheel will suddenly
    force the seat into the ground.... i think. I couldn't imagine the
    computer and mechanics for the balancing mechanism being fast enough
    to move the extra weight backward to rebalance the thing. Good luck
    to the guy though. *

    The tire will absorb anything it hits. So long as it isn't too big. A
    rock like 3 inches high will just get rolled over. The tire is being
    used with no air.

    The amount of angular momentum obtained by the combination of the 65
    pound steel flywheel at over 2000 rpm and the rotation of the 300+ lb
    wheel will keep the thing somewhat steady at speed.

    The bottom of the chassis is designed to be able to slide along the
    ground should it come into contact. It is also designed so that the
    rider can't be crushed. So they say anyways.

    Read.

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  4. This has been mentioned in JC before as well as some other threads.
    Here's the link to the actual site. http://theriotwheel.com/

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  5. Klaas Bil said:

    *Powered with a 200 hp electric motor, this contraption is planned to
    break the world speed record for single-wheeled vehicles, that
    allegedly stands at 90 km/h. (Hey, who holds that old record and with
    what?). *

    The current single wheel speed record is held by Kerry McLean with a
    motorized monowheel.

    'McLean monowheel link 1' (http://tinyurl.com/rx11)
    'McLean monowheel link 2' (http://tinyurl.com/v8sj)

    The site mentions that he has plans to go for a 100 mph record. That
    would give the RIOT Wheel something to shoot for. I wonder which one of
    them will get there first.

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  6. john_childs posted:

    Quoted message said:

    'McLean monowheel link 1' (http://tinyurl.com/rx11)

    I noticed from that page that a lecturer at Bath University (Geraint
    Owen) built a monocycle the year after I graduated. If only he'd done
    it a couple of years earlier I might have been able to blag a go :-(

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  7. That almost looks like it should be in the pod races in the Star Wars
    movie.

    B

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  8. "The bottom of the chassis is designed to be able to slide along the
    ground should it come into contact. It is also designed so that the
    rider can't be crushed. So they say anyways."

    Sure it would slide going 5 or 10 km/h, like in the demo movie, but 90+
    km/h?

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  9. I believe that the only time the chasi would have a chance of touching
    the ground would be during braking hard, so hopefully this wouldnt be
    much of a problem.

    this machine does not have to do any sort of balancing. There is a huge
    counterweight inside the wheel below the axel and another one behind the
    axel, and the tire is so wide that lateral balance is no concern.

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  10. I WANT ONE OF THOSE!!!!!!!!!!😄

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  11. PhilS said:

    *this machine does not have to do any sort of balancing.*


    True, but it does have to make an effort to stay right side up and not
    dig into the ground. Applying power to the wheel causes the nose to tilt
    up. The more power, or the quicker it's applied, the more tilt. Same for
    braking, which will point the nose downward. The faster you go, the more
    chance there is for something to cause a tilt.

    The worst thing would be to hit some sort of bump during braking, if the
    frame is on the ground. I'm sure for a higher-speed model the builders
    will think to give it very good skids that can get over most anything
    that will be in its path. For speed records I'm sure they will seek a
    very flat runway.

    Quoted message said:

    *the tire is so wide that lateral balance is no concern. *


    If there is indeed no steering mechanism, this makes the machine even
    more dangerous as speeds increase. Anything that may cause it to go a
    little crooked will send it toward a curb, or other un-planned
    obstacles. Are you sure there's no provision for steering it?

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  12. johnfoss said:

    *
    If there is indeed no steering mechanism, this makes the machine even
    more dangerous as speeds increase. Anything that may cause it to go a
    little crooked will send it toward a curb, or other un-planned
    obstacles. Are you sure there's no provision for steering it? *

    from www.theriotwheel.com/tech_steering.html

    The driver controls the direction of travel using
    the joystick, and, depending on the speed, by
    shifting left or right on the rolling seat. The
    joystick controls solenoids that roll the gyro,
    producing precession forces that yaw the wheel.
    As with a bicycle or motorbike, at slow speeds
    you yaw in the direction you wish to go, but at
    higher speeds you yaw in the opposite direction.
    This rolls the vehicle into the desired turn
    direction.

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  13. johnfoss said:

    *True, but it does have to make an effort to stay right side up and
    not dig into the ground. Applying power to the wheel causes the nose
    to tilt up. The more power, or the quicker it's applied, the more
    tilt. Same for braking, which will point the nose downward. The faster
    you go, the more chance there is for something to cause a tilt.
    *

    I believe that there is a counter-weight on other side of the rider for
    the rider to stay up-right, and there is another one that hangs from the
    axel and swings forward and backward to go and stop.

    so the rider shouldnt go up and down too much.

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  14. "hecklar" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:


    That looks like a death trap. If that seat ever touches the ground
    while seriously riding, that guy will get crushed underneith the wheel.
    As soon as the base of the wheel hits something, like a rock or pot
    hole, the bottom of the wheel will slow, relative to the top of the
    wheel, in terms of forward velocity, and the wheel will suddenly force
    the seat into the ground.... i think. I couldn't imagine the computer
    and mechanics for the balancing mechanism being fast enough to move the
    extra weight backward to rebalance the thing.

    You totally underestimate the efficiency of computer controller servo
    systems.
    They usually make our feeble efforts look terribly wobbly.

    Nao

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