The wine for tonights dinner

PeterLucas said:

http://www.kaesler.com.au/html/supply_wines.htm

The Bogan Shiraz
2005
A major proportion of the fruit to make this wine, comes from our
vineyard at Marananga, approximately 8 kms south west of the winery.
Here we have a block of Shiraz planted in 1899. Soils are quite
different here, consisting of sandy loam, followed by clay with
limestone thinly dispersed. This tends to give the wine more blue fruit
characters and lift combined with the intensity of the old vines.

The fruit was picked ripe. The wine was fermented hot (28-30 Degrees
centigrade) in stainless steel and transferred to oak, after alcoholic
fermentation and 7 days on skins, where it completed its malo-lactic
fermentation. It was racked post MLF, then returned to barrel. The wine
was topped regularly, with one racking at 12 months.

We try not to bother the wine unless it needs some assistance.

The oak used was 80% new American oak, with a medium to heavy toast, and
the balance 1 and 2 year old French. The wine was bottled without fining
or filtration.

Colour: Dense purple colour with vibrant edge

Nose: Nose is generous, with, baked plums, blueberry and cola. The oak
shows quite spicy with a bit of mocha and chocolate on the back palate.
Quite accessible as a young wine

Palate: Full bodied and powerful, blackberries and cassis. Structure is
plump with a good length of aftertaste

Notes: The Bogan is designed to highlight the unmistakeable synergy
between Barossa Shiraz and good quality American oak.

Age of vines: Estate plantings of 1899 and 1976 Shiraz

Alc: 16.0%
TA: 6.26 g/1
pH: 3.56

So what you're trying to say then is that it's not bad 🙂
I just started drinking wine recently trying different grapes and what
really stands out is shiraz blended with cab. Good long aftertaste.

Scott <[email hidden]> wrote in
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So what you're trying to say then is that it's not bad 🙂

Yep :-)

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I just started drinking wine recently trying different grapes and what
really stands out is shiraz blended with cab. Good long aftertaste.

Scott.......... welcome to the world of wine!!

I used to be a beer or spirit guy........ until I realised how boring it
was to get the same thing day in and day out.

With wine, you may have a favourite vineyard, and a favourite
vintage....... but even they change year after year.

No vintage is ever the same as the previous year. Each vineyard tastes
differently, and you can never find two wines that taste the same.

And that's the beauty of being a wine lover.

I hope you have many years of wine enjoyment.

(BTW....... wine goes bloody well with food!!! :-)

Scott wrote

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So what you're trying to say then is that it's not bad 🙂
I just started drinking wine recently trying different grapes and

what

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really stands out is shiraz blended with cab. Good long aftertaste.

And shiraz is very nice with spicy foods, too.
--
Vilco
Think pink, drink rose'

Scott wrote

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So what you're trying to say then is that it's not bad 🙂
I just started drinking wine recently trying different grapes and

what

Quoted message said:

really stands out is shiraz blended with cab. Good long aftertaste.

And shiraz is very nice with spicy foods, too.
--
Vilco
Think pink, drink rose'

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PeterLucas said:

http://www.kaesler.com.au/html/supply_wines.htm

I just started drinking wine recently trying different grapes and what
really stands out is shiraz blended with cab. Good long aftertaste.

I never cared for CA wines although I had 20 some-odd years of exposure
cavorting with people who drank and loved CA wines.
Specifically cabernet sauvignon was not one of my favorites.

It has only been recently that I've begun to like cab sauv with its blend of
shiraz -- from Australia.
But to be specific Yellow Tail turned me off so much, that I professed not
to care at all for Australian wines.

Dee Dee

PeterLucas said:

I used to be a beer or spirit guy........ until I realised how boring it
was to get the same thing day in and day out.

That's one thing I enjoy about wine is that it's interesting.

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With wine, you may have a favourite vineyard, and a favourite
vintage....... but even they change year after year.

No vintage is ever the same as the previous year. Each vineyard tastes
differently, and you can never find two wines that taste the same.

And that's the beauty of being a wine lover.

I don't really have a favorite "all-around" vineyard. I have a favorite
vineyard for each type of grape. My taste haven't evolved yet to the
point where I can distinguish between the different vintages.

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I hope you have many years of wine enjoyment.

I will!

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(BTW....... wine goes bloody well with food!!! :-)

Everybody says that red wine is best enjoyed with food but I think it's
just as enjoyable without food.

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PeterLucas said:

http://www.kaesler.com.au/html/supply_wines.htm

I just started drinking wine recently trying different grapes and what
really stands out is shiraz blended with cab. Good long aftertaste.

I never cared for CA wines although I had 20 some-odd years of exposure
cavorting with people who drank and loved CA wines.
Specifically cabernet sauvignon was not one of my favorites.

It has only been recently that I've begun to like cab sauv with its blend
of shiraz -- from Australia.
But to be specific Yellow Tail turned me off so much, that I professed not
to care at all for Australian wines.

Dee Dee

Try some shiraz from Two Hands. I served an 2003 'Lilly's Garden' with
holiday dinner last night that was a knockout.

Jon

Dee Dee said:

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PeterLucas said:

http://www.kaesler.com.au/html/supply_wines.htm

I just started drinking wine recently trying different grapes and what
really stands out is shiraz blended with cab. Good long aftertaste.

I never cared for CA wines although I had 20 some-odd years of exposure
cavorting with people who drank and loved CA wines.
Specifically cabernet sauvignon was not one of my favorites.
It has only been recently that I've begun to like cab sauv with its blend of
shiraz -- from Australia.
But to be specific Yellow Tail turned me off so much, that I professed not
to care at all for Australian wines.

Try Rosemount Estate Diamond Label (Australian) shiraz/cab blend.

Scott said:

Try Rosemount Estate Diamond Label (Australian) shiraz/cab blend.

That would be my favorite blend. I love their Merlot too.

Lou

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But to be specific Yellow Tail turned me off so much, that I professed
not to care at all for Australian wines.

Try Rosemount Estate Diamond Label (Australian) shiraz/cab blend.

I've seen that at Costco, I believe. For some reason the label has turned
me off -- or do you suppose it's the price -- however, I don't remember the
cost.
Thanks.
Dee Dee

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PeterLucas said:

I hope you have many years of wine enjoyment.

I will!

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(BTW....... wine goes bloody well with food!!! :-)

Everybody says that red wine is best enjoyed with food but I think it's
just as enjoyable without food.

I've enjoyed it both ways. But since time flies faster and faster during
the day for me, about the only time I can catch up to wine is at the dinner
table, so that has become my preference.
Dee Dee

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Scott said:

Try Rosemount Estate Diamond Label (Australian) shiraz/cab blend.

That would be my favorite blend. I love their Merlot too.

Lou

I'm not drinking any freakin' Merlot. From "Sideways."

Dee Dee

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:45:53 -0400, "Dee Dee" <[email hidden]>

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Scott said:

Try Rosemount Estate Diamond Label (Australian) shiraz/cab blend.

That would be my favorite blend. I love their Merlot too.

Lou

I'm not drinking any freakin' Merlot. From "Sideways."

Dee Dee

Guess he doesn't like it? To each their own I guess. I don't like
any whites. But that's just me.

Lou

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:21:45 -0400, "Dee Dee" <[email hidden]>

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But to be specific Yellow Tail turned me off so much, that I professed
not to care at all for Australian wines.

Try Rosemount Estate Diamond Label (Australian) shiraz/cab blend.

I've seen that at Costco, I believe. For some reason the label has turned
me off -- or do you suppose it's the price -- however, I don't remember the
cost.

Must have been the label because it's always a good value. (cheap)

Lou

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Guess he doesn't like it? To each their own I guess. I don't like
any whites. But that's just me.

Lou

Just me, too. No whites. I will have a glass in a social setting, but
that's it.
Dee Dee

Lou Decruss said:

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:21:45 -0400, "Dee Dee" <[email hidden]>

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"Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> But to be specific Yellow Tail turned me off so much, that I professed
> not to care at all for Australian wines.
>
Try Rosemount Estate Diamond Label (Australian) shiraz/cab blend.

I've seen that at Costco, I believe. For some reason the label has turned
me off -- or do you suppose it's the price -- however, I don't remember the
cost.

Must have been the label because it's always a good value. (cheap)

Lou

It's in-expensive...not cheap! There's a difference 🙂
btw a good cheap (oh, I mean in-expensive) wine for everyday drinking is
Sutter Homles red zin ($4).

PeterLucas said:

http://www.kaesler.com.au/html/supply_wines.htm

The Bogan Shiraz
2005
A major proportion of the fruit to make this wine, comes from our
vineyard at Marananga, approximately 8 kms south west of the winery.
Here we have a block of Shiraz planted in 1899. Soils are quite
different here, consisting of sandy loam, followed by clay with
limestone thinly dispersed. This tends to give the wine more blue fruit
characters and lift combined with the intensity of the old vines.

The fruit was picked ripe. The wine was fermented hot (28-30 Degrees
centigrade) in stainless steel and transferred to oak, after alcoholic
fermentation and 7 days on skins, where it completed its malo-lactic
fermentation. It was racked post MLF, then returned to barrel. The wine
was topped regularly, with one racking at 12 months.

We try not to bother the wine unless it needs some assistance.

The oak used was 80% new American oak, with a medium to heavy toast, and
the balance 1 and 2 year old French. The wine was bottled without fining
or filtration.

Colour: Dense purple colour with vibrant edge

Nose: Nose is generous, with, baked plums, blueberry and cola. The oak
shows quite spicy with a bit of mocha and chocolate on the back palate.
Quite accessible as a young wine

Palate: Full bodied and powerful, blackberries and cassis. Structure is
plump with a good length of aftertaste

Notes: The Bogan is designed to highlight the unmistakeable synergy
between Barossa Shiraz and good quality American oak.

Age of vines: Estate plantings of 1899 and 1976 Shiraz

Alc: 16.0%
TA: 6.26 g/1
pH: 3.56

Alc: 16.0%

In the California wine country, that would be called an awfully big
wine!

Guess you skip the martinis before dinner.
Susan B.

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It's in-expensive...not cheap! There's a difference 🙂
btw a good cheap (oh, I mean in-expensive) wine for everyday drinking is
Sutter Homles red zin ($4).

Is this a typo -- Sutter Homeless?
or Holmes --
Just kidding -- although $4 is as close to Charles Shaw as you can get.
And I'm not insulting CS either, many like it. I like all wine drinkers.
I've had it said to me in a derogatory way, that I probably drink CS, so
I'll never say that to anyone.
Dee Dee

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PeterLucas said:

http://www.kaesler.com.au/html/supply_wines.htm

The Bogan Shiraz
2005
A major proportion of the fruit to make this wine, comes from our
vineyard at Marananga, approximately 8 kms south west of the winery.
Here we have a block of Shiraz planted in 1899. Soils are quite
different here, consisting of sandy loam, followed by clay with
limestone thinly dispersed. This tends to give the wine more blue fruit
characters and lift combined with the intensity of the old vines.

The fruit was picked ripe. The wine was fermented hot (28-30 Degrees
centigrade) in stainless steel and transferred to oak, after alcoholic
fermentation and 7 days on skins, where it completed its malo-lactic
fermentation. It was racked post MLF, then returned to barrel. The wine
was topped regularly, with one racking at 12 months.

We try not to bother the wine unless it needs some assistance.

The oak used was 80% new American oak, with a medium to heavy toast, and
the balance 1 and 2 year old French. The wine was bottled without fining
or filtration.

Colour: Dense purple colour with vibrant edge

Nose: Nose is generous, with, baked plums, blueberry and cola. The oak
shows quite spicy with a bit of mocha and chocolate on the back palate.
Quite accessible as a young wine

Palate: Full bodied and powerful, blackberries and cassis. Structure is
plump with a good length of aftertaste

Notes: The Bogan is designed to highlight the unmistakeable synergy
between Barossa Shiraz and good quality American oak.

Age of vines: Estate plantings of 1899 and 1976 Shiraz

Alc: 16.0%
TA: 6.26 g/1
pH: 3.56

Alc: 16.0%

In the California wine country, that would be called an awfully big
wine!

Guess you skip the martinis before dinner.
Susan B.

Just so happens that the last two or three wines I've had were 14.7 & 14.0
respectively. Chateauneuf du Pape, and VRAC.
Getting close to port.
Dee Dee