THERE ARE NO INCURABLE DISEASES

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THERE ARE NO INCURABLE DISEASES

Everyones' eventual and inevitable death cures them all.
At least for the sufferer.

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After 30 days of this stupid and useless program, you will swear you have no
diseases so you don't have to do it again.

The cleansing program is not based on any science (at least from after the
19th century) and there is no evidence that it works. It potentially
dangerous (ruptured colon, electrolyte imbalances).

Jeff

PS, If I am incorrect, please provide the peer-reviewed articles that shows
that cleansing works and please provide the names of the toxins cleared from
the body.

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THERE ARE NO INCURABLE DISEASES
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You can see why the allopaths shills like Jeff Putz like ignorance on
cleansing and have to run a monopoly to keep the mugs from finding out
the truth

"The simplicity of truth is annoying to man."---Goethe
"80% of my patients were well just after doing my thorough bowel
cleansing program."--Richard Shulze, ND., MH

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You can see why the allopaths shills like Jeff Putz like ignorance on
cleansing and have to run a monopoly to keep the mugs from finding out
the truth

If this treatment works so well, please provide real evidence that it does.
I have asked for information and am willing to listen to real evidence.

For example, I have heard about "toxins." I would like to know which toxins.
Yet, no one has been able to name the toxins involved or demonstrate that
they exist in the blood or other organs and decrease after cleansing. Or
show any studies that demonstrate that cleansing helps with anything.

From what I can gather, cleansing is based on old theories about how the
body works (that date to the days before people even understood what the
liver does or even what the heart does). Based on modern medical studies,
there is no reason to beleive that the toxins involved leave the colon or
that the cleansing does anything healthy for the body.

Jeff

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"The simplicity of truth is annoying to man."---Goethe

You mean like the turth that cleansing does not work?

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"80% of my patients were well just after doing my thorough bowel
cleansing program."--Richard Shulze, ND., MH

But 100% were well before going through the cleansing program.

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You can see why the allopaths shills like Jeff Putz like ignorance on
cleansing and have to run a monopoly to keep the mugs from finding out
the truth

If this treatment works so well, please provide real evidence that it does.
I have asked for information and am willing to listen to real evidence.

I can provide evidence that the current allopathic system is corrupt.
Will that do?

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For example, I have heard about "toxins." I would like to know which toxins.
Yet, no one has been able to name the toxins involved or demonstrate that
they exist in the blood or other organs and decrease after cleansing. Or
show any studies that demonstrate that cleansing helps with anything.

This is all based around the soil theory which originates from the mid
1800s, which was then subsequently suppressed in favour of the germ
theory.
The soil theory says that germs are nature's undertakers. Just like in
a forest where dead plants break down and return to the soil, so as a
system weakens through loss of vitality, the germs take over.

"If I could live my life over again, I would devote it to proving that
germs seek their natural habitat, diseased tissue - rather than being
the cause of the diseased tissue."
- Rudolph Virchow (1821-1902)

"Bernard was right, the germ is nothing--the milieu  
[the environment within] is everything."  
-  Louis Pasteur (on his deathbed)

"Many forms of diagnosis are dependent upon what germ life exists, and
its existence in the body usually indicates a bad state of
deterioration. Disease germs are nature's undertakers"
-- Bernard Jenson, The Science and Practise of Iridology

"Rife showed that by altering the environment and food supply,
friendly bacteria such as colon bacillus, could be converted into the
'pathogenic' bacteria known as typhoid. 
"Rife was able to observe that the viral agent associated with certain
forms of cancer could in time be modified into harmless bacillus coli,
and the process reversed. Rife stated that it was the unbalanced cell
metabolism of the human body that in actuality produced the disease.
He believed that if the human body was perfectly balanced, it was
susceptible to no disease.
"Virulence is an ecological problem -- that is, a problem of the state
of internal cleanliness.

Cellular Toxemia and 'Germs of Life' 
by Saul Pressman
"The so-called 'bad' bacteria and viruses that modern medicine fights
with its huge arsenal of pharmaceutical drugs are in reality the germs
of life. These germs of life live in symbiosis with the nutritive
medium that constitutes our body, allowing it to be built up and later
decomposed, to be metamorphosed and recreated. These germs are
pleomorphic shapeshifters who are controlled by the medium in which
they live.

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From what I can gather, cleansing is based on old theories about how the
body works (that date to the days before people even understood what the
liver does or even what the heart does). Based on modern medical studies,
there is no reason to beleive that the toxins involved leave the colon or
that the cleansing does anything healthy for the body.

The corrupted allopathic pharmaceutical cartel has done a good snow
job on convincing the public about the "safety and efficacy" of its
products.

The truth about the Rockefeller drug empire
The Drug Story -- by Hans Ruesch
From David Icke's Medical Archive:
http://www.davidicke.net/medicalarchives/conspiracy/drugstory.html

When the FDA, whose officials have to be acceptable to Rockefeller
Center before they are appointed, has to put an independent operator
out of business, it goes all out to execute those orders. But the
orders do not come directly from Standard Oil or a drug house
director. As Morris Bealle pointed out, the American Medical
Association (AMA) is the front for the Drug Trust, and furnishes the
quack doctors to testify that even when they know nothing of the
product involved, it is their considered opinion that it has no
therapeutic value.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/soil.htm

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You can see why the allopaths shills like Jeff Putz like ignorance on
cleansing and have to run a monopoly to keep the mugs from finding out
the truth

If this treatment works so well, please provide real evidence that it

does.

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I have asked for information and am willing to listen to real evidence.

I can provide evidence that the current allopathic system is corrupt.
Will that do?

No. We already have your views about the drug industry.

How about real evidence that cleansing actually works?

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For example, I have heard about "toxins." I would like to know which

toxins.

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Yet, no one has been able to name the toxins involved or demonstrate

that

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they exist in the blood or other organs and decrease after cleansing. Or
show any studies that demonstrate that cleansing helps with anything.

(Useless, outdated quotes deleted)

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From what I can gather, cleansing is based on old theories about how the
body works (that date to the days before people even understood what the
liver does or even what the heart does). Based on modern medical

studies,

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there is no reason to beleive that the toxins involved leave the colon

or

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that the cleansing does anything healthy for the body.

The corrupted allopathic pharmaceutical cartel has done a good snow
job on convincing the public about the "safety and efficacy" of its
products.

You have been unsuccessful thus far in demonstrating the cleansing does
anything, except increase the profits of people selling toilet paper.

Jeff

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Subject: Re: THERE ARE NO INCURABLE DISEASES
From: [email hidden] (Carole)
Date: 11/6/2003 3:49 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

I find it absolutely beyond belief that you would TRULY believe anything
written or published 50-100 years ago..

perhaps you think the world has stood still since then..we never found that
planes could fly....man could go to the moon...and live for months at the Space
Station..

medicine..or whatever you want to call it....has come a long way baby....

yikes....you are a pathetic person living in a fairy tale..

hawki

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Carole said:

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You can see why the allopaths shills like Jeff Putz like ignorance on
cleansing and have to run a monopoly to keep the mugs from finding out
the truth

If this treatment works so well, please provide real evidence that it does.
I have asked for information and am willing to listen to real evidence.

I can provide evidence that the current allopathic system is corrupt.
Will that do?

No. If I have a theory and you have a theory, even if you can show
mine is wrong, it doesn't mean yours is right. They could both be
wrong.

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This is all based around the soil theory which originates from the mid
1800s, which was then subsequently suppressed in favour of the germ
theory.
The soil theory says that germs are nature's undertakers. Just like in
a forest where dead plants break down and return to the soil, so as a
system weakens through loss of vitality, the germs take over.

It was a cute theory at one time. There's absolutely no reason to
believe it today.

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"If I could live my life over again, I would devote it to proving that
germs seek their natural habitat, diseased tissue - rather than being
the cause of the diseased tissue."
- Rudolph Virchow (1821-1902)

"Bernard was right, the germ is nothing--the milieu  
[the environment within] is everything."  
-  Louis Pasteur (on his deathbed)

I want to see a source for this quote. A decent biography of Pasteur
will do, but until I see one, I will figure this "quotation" is as
apocryphal as Mrs. O'Leary's cow starting the Chicago fire, or Darwin
supposedly repudiating evolution on his deathbed (he didn't).

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"Rife showed that by altering the environment and food supply,
friendly bacteria such as colon bacillus, could be converted into the
'pathogenic' bacteria known as typhoid.

Sure he did. And then he spun straw into gold.

<remaining usual conspiracy nonsense snipped>

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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Carole said:

"Jeff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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"john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You can see why the allopaths shills like Jeff Putz like ignorance on
cleansing and have to run a monopoly to keep the mugs from finding out
the truth

If this treatment works so well, please provide real evidence that it does.
I have asked for information and am willing to listen to real evidence.

I can provide evidence that the current allopathic system is corrupt.
Will that do?

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For example, I have heard about "toxins." I would like to know which toxins.
Yet, no one has been able to name the toxins involved or demonstrate that
they exist in the blood or other organs and decrease after cleansing. Or
show any studies that demonstrate that cleansing helps with anything.

This is all based around the soil theory which originates from the mid
1800s, which was then subsequently suppressed in favour of the germ
theory.
The soil theory says that germs are nature's undertakers. Just like in
a forest where dead plants break down and return to the soil, so as a
system weakens through loss of vitality, the germs take over.

"If I could live my life over again, I would devote it to proving that
germs seek their natural habitat, diseased tissue - rather than being
the cause of the diseased tissue."
- Rudolph Virchow (1821-1902)

"Bernard was right, the germ is nothing--the milieu  
[the environment within] is everything."  
-  Louis Pasteur (on his deathbed)

"Many forms of diagnosis are dependent upon what germ life exists, and
its existence in the body usually indicates a bad state of
deterioration. Disease germs are nature's undertakers"
-- Bernard Jenson, The Science and Practise of Iridology

"Rife showed that by altering the environment and food supply,
friendly bacteria such as colon bacillus, could be converted into the
'pathogenic' bacteria known as typhoid. 
"Rife was able to observe that the viral agent associated with certain
forms of cancer could in time be modified into harmless bacillus coli,
and the process reversed. Rife stated that it was the unbalanced cell
metabolism of the human body that in actuality produced the disease.
He believed that if the human body was perfectly balanced, it was
susceptible to no disease.
"Virulence is an ecological problem -- that is, a problem of the state
of internal cleanliness.

Cellular Toxemia and 'Germs of Life' 
by Saul Pressman
"The so-called 'bad' bacteria and viruses that modern medicine fights
with its huge arsenal of pharmaceutical drugs are in reality the germs
of life. These germs of life live in symbiosis with the nutritive
medium that constitutes our body, allowing it to be built up and later
decomposed, to be metamorphosed and recreated. These germs are
pleomorphic shapeshifters who are controlled by the medium in which
they live.

Quoted message said:

From what I can gather, cleansing is based on old theories about how the
body works (that date to the days before people even understood what the
liver does or even what the heart does). Based on modern medical studies,
there is no reason to beleive that the toxins involved leave the colon or
that the cleansing does anything healthy for the body.

The corrupted allopathic pharmaceutical cartel has done a good snow
job on convincing the public about the "safety and efficacy" of its
products.

The truth about the Rockefeller drug empire
The Drug Story -- by Hans Ruesch
From David Icke's Medical Archive:
http://www.davidicke.net/medicalarchives/conspiracy/drugstory.html

When the FDA, whose officials have to be acceptable to Rockefeller
Center before they are appointed, has to put an independent operator
out of business, it goes all out to execute those orders. But the
orders do not come directly from Standard Oil or a drug house
director. As Morris Bealle pointed out, the American Medical
Association (AMA) is the front for the Drug Trust, and furnishes the
quack doctors to testify that even when they know nothing of the
product involved, it is their considered opinion that it has no
therapeutic value.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/soil.htm

If the NAME" ockerfeller is involved...IGNORE IT! The way he made his
fortune was selling CRUDE OIL to cure cancer...NO LIE...check it out!! B-0b1

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> You can see why the allopaths shills like Jeff Putz like ignorance on
> cleansing and have to run a monopoly to keep the mugs from finding out
> the truth

If this treatment works so well, please provide real evidence that it

does.

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Quoted message said:

I have asked for information and am willing to listen to real evidence.

I can provide evidence that the current allopathic system is corrupt.
Will that do?

No. We already have your views about the drug industry.

How about real evidence that cleansing actually works?

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For example, I have heard about "toxins." I would like to know which

toxins.

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Yet, no one has been able to name the toxins involved or demonstrate

that

Quoted message said:

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they exist in the blood or other organs and decrease after cleansing. Or
show any studies that demonstrate that cleansing helps with anything.

(Useless, outdated quotes deleted)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

From what I can gather, cleansing is based on old theories about how the
body works (that date to the days before people even understood what the
liver does or even what the heart does). Based on modern medical

studies,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

there is no reason to beleive that the toxins involved leave the colon

or

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that the cleansing does anything healthy for the body.

The corrupted allopathic pharmaceutical cartel has done a good snow
job on convincing the public about the "safety and efficacy" of its
products.

You have been unsuccessful thus far in demonstrating the cleansing does
anything, except increase the profits of people selling toilet paper.

Jeff

It depends on YOUR definition of "CLEANSING" Perhaps your MIND

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needs a good good sweeping to rid it of COBWEBS??? B-0b1

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For example, I have heard about "toxins." I would like to know which toxins.
Yet, no one has been able to name the toxins involved or demonstrate that
they exist in the blood or other organs and decrease after cleansing. Or
show any studies that demonstrate that cleansing helps with anything.

That's a pretty straightforward request: name the "toxins."

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This is all based around the soil theory which originates from the mid
1800s, which was then subsequently suppressed in favour of the germ
theory.
The soil theory says that germs are nature's undertakers. Just like in
a forest where dead plants break down and return to the soil, so as a
system weakens through loss of vitality, the germs take over.

Well, yes, that's the "soil theory." Whether it's accurate
or not is the question. That, and naming those "toxins."

[Snip several purported quotes.]

No toxins named.

Any chance of just naming those "toxins" which are supposed
to be removed by "cleansing?" That would be the first step
in testing to see if they are actually removed by the
procedures that are billed as doing so.

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