"Tom G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UdfGd.86745$6l.30431@pd7tw2no...
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"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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If y'all were willing to pay more taxes for your children's education,
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wouldn't have to resort to such tactics.
;-)
People in general seem to get upset if the increase in direct costs go up. They don't have a problem with marketing gimmicks which provide quick false economic returns. It's a classic "You can pay me now, or you can pay me later". But it may not be in a monetary fashion that the future payments are made in. "Let's sell chocolate bars and pop in the hallways, so we can teach children about healthy eating in the classroom." I'm sure no board member actually feels this way, but that does appear to be the message that is set by their actions.
To be fair, in most districts there is considerable overhead for superintendents, and the obligatory assistants, which raises costs all around without really contributing to the quality of your children's education. If the principals were hired by the board and given total control and responsibility at the school level, there would be considerable savings and most likey an increase in the quality of education.
In news:[email hidden], Daniel Hoffmeister <[email hidden]> stated | Even scarier: | "A red sticker on a candy bar, for example, would mean it should be | chosen rarely, while a green sticker on a granola bar would mean it's | more nutritious and can be selected more frequently." | | Ever looked at the sugar content in a 'healthy' granola bar? Or a | 'healthy' fruit yogurt? | | We fought a constant battle with our school board over vending | machines. The bottom line was that no one really cared about the | kids, they just cared about the lucrative cut the school district | gets, especially for those 'exclusive' pop machine contracts. When | our boys went on to college, it was the same thing all over again, | same exclusive Coke or Pepsi contracts bringing money in to the | schools. | | Dan | 325/191/190 | Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution) | Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes
If they weren't taxed so heavily, they could send their kids to private school. ;o)
Property tax-based school funding is very problematic. In this country, free public education is supposed to be the great equalizer that gives everyone a chance at a decent job and a comfortable life. But poor districts are jacking up class sizes and losing teachers who quit from burnout and frustration while rich districts put in posh computer labs and Corian in the bathrooms. Sometimes they're only a mile apart. Something very wrong there.
It's ironic that even some of the richest school districts in the country are not doing as well academically as you would expect if money bought everything. It doesn't.
Don't get me started on public education in America...
Dan 325/191/190 Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution) Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes
"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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"Tom G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UdfGd.86745$6l.30431@pd7tw2no...
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"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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If y'all were willing to pay more taxes for your children's education,
they
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wouldn't have to resort to such tactics.
;-)
People in general seem to get upset if the increase in direct costs go up. They don't have a problem with marketing gimmicks which provide
quick
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false economic returns. It's a classic "You can pay me now, or you can
pay
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me later". But it may not be in a monetary fashion that the future payments are made in. "Let's sell chocolate bars and pop in the hallways, so we can teach children about healthy eating in the classroom." I'm sure no board member actually feels this way, but that does appear to be the message that is set by their actions.
To be fair, in most districts there is considerable overhead for superintendents, and the obligatory assistants, which raises costs all around without really contributing to the quality of your children's education. If the principals were hired by the board and given total
control
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and responsibility at the school level, there would be considerable
savings
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and most likey an increase in the quality of education.
Ahh, to dream.
Yes. The larger the entity, the more overhead costs and accountability on different levels of the whole system. Nothing works very efficiently if it becomes too complicated. Hopefully if the original goal of educating children is kept in mind, future funding will be directed in the most effective ways.
"'In moderation, [sugar is] not evil,' she said, noting a teaspoon is only 15 calories."
Even scarier: "A red sticker on a candy bar, for example, would mean it should be chosen rarely, while a green sticker on a granola bar would mean it's more nutritious and can be selected more frequently."
Ever looked at the sugar content in a 'healthy' granola bar? Or a 'healthy' fruit yogurt?
We fought a constant battle with our school board over vending machines. The bottom line was that no one really cared about the kids, they just cared about the lucrative cut the school district gets, especially for those 'exclusive' pop machine contracts. When our boys went on to college, it was the same thing all over again, same exclusive Coke or Pepsi contracts bringing money in to the schools.
Dan 325/191/190 Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution) Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes
You wanna fight the vendors? Don't put a quarter in the machine.
There, now we all feel better and don't gain weight.
Here in Victoria, Texas, the majority of property tax goes to the school system. Since I pay property tax on several properties, this natuarally interests me.
The local school system has levied the maximum tax provided by law for their income. A few years ago there was a referendum to reduce school taxes. Our voters passed it.
Shortly, there was an educational outcry about how teachers were having to be let go of their jobs because the public didn't want to support our local educational system so much. But I had reason to visit the VISD (Victoria Inedependent School District) that year, and noticed that they were putting in new carpet on their floors.
They couldn't pay teachers, but they could buy new carpet. I left in disgust.
"'In moderation, [sugar is] not evil,' she said, noting a teaspoon is only 15 calories."
Even scarier: "A red sticker on a candy bar, for example, would mean it should be chosen rarely, while a green sticker on a granola bar would mean it's more nutritious and can be selected more frequently."
Ever looked at the sugar content in a 'healthy' granola bar? Or a 'healthy' fruit yogurt?
We fought a constant battle with our school board over vending machines. The bottom line was that no one really cared about the kids, they just cared about the lucrative cut the school district gets, especially for those 'exclusive' pop machine contracts. When our boys went on to college, it was the same thing all over again, same exclusive Coke or Pepsi contracts bringing money in to the schools.
Dan 325/191/190 Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution) Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes
Opps. Must be another product of the DC school system.
-- Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW
"Chris Smolinski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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If spending per pupil was the overwhelming factor in academic success, Washington DC would have some of the best schools in the country.
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JC Der Koenig said:
If y'all were willing to pay more taxes for your children's education, they wouldn't have to resort to such tactics.
;-)
-- Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at birth?
"Daniel Hoffmeister" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Bob M <[email hidden]> wrote: > Here's an article about how the sugar and snack-food industries are > fighting back, against accusations these industries are causing > obesity:
> "'In moderation, [sugar is] not evil,' she said, noting a teaspoon is > only > 15 calories."
Even scarier: "A red sticker on a candy bar, for example, would mean it should be chosen rarely, while a green sticker on a granola bar would mean it's more nutritious and can be selected more frequently."
Ever looked at the sugar content in a 'healthy' granola bar? Or a 'healthy' fruit yogurt?
We fought a constant battle with our school board over vending machines. The bottom line was that no one really cared about the kids, they just cared about the lucrative cut the school district gets, especially for those 'exclusive' pop machine contracts. When our boys went on to college, it was the same thing all over again, same exclusive Coke or Pepsi contracts bringing money in to the schools.
Dan 325/191/190 Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution) Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes
