tire levers & slime

Bill said:

***Some rim and tire combinations may simply be almost impossible regardless
of technique or tool. If it is so difficult that it would break a quick
stick then it's not a combination that I would leave home with.

Now, *there* is a rational approach.
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Mike said:

2 the Kool Stop Bead Jack,

I have one of these and it is the ultimate for mounting really tight
tires. It doesn't remove them.

Quoted message said:

3 the Crank Brothers Speed Lever,

I have this one, too. It's ok for normal tires, but too flimsy for
really tight ones.

Art Harris

john said:

Carl F said:

It's annoying when a little green Slime sprays out with a
dramatic whoosh-whoosh-whoosh through a larger hole, but it
seems worthwhile when I pull a tube out and find a few wisps
of those tiny white fibers sticking out innocently, here and
there, plugging several pinholes that may have been there
for a dozen rides.

I concur. Another thing I like about Slime is it's slimy green
fluorescent color. Even if it doesn't fix the flat, it makes it easy
to find on the tube prior to patching. Also easy to find the
location on the tire to assist in the removal of the puncturer. I
suspect the difference between people who praise Slime & those who
damn it, is the typical size of their punctures.

Most people don't even realize that it had worked. It's designed to be
transparent to the user, and so when it fails fatally, they curse it without
ever realizing how much it had helped up to then.

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

john said:

... Another thing I like about Slime is it's slimy green
fluorescent color. Even if it doesn't fix the flat, it makes it easy to
find on the tube prior to patching. Also easy to find the location on
the tire to assist in the removal of the puncturer. I suspect the
difference between people who praise Slime & those who damn it, is the
typical size of their punctures. People in goat head country probably
like it more than thoes in nail & glass country.

I suspect that one of the groups who finds Slime unworkable in the
long run may be those who don't check tire pressures often enough.
Slime, in my limited experience, is good at sealing small holes in the
tread area, but poor at plugging sidewall-area and spoke-area leaks.
If my results are typical, then riders who tend to have pinch flats
would probably find Slime much less useful than those whose flats are
all derived from sharp objects through the tread.

In my own case, I've never had enough flats to make it worthwhile
dealing with the valve clogging issues that Slime caused.

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Squid-in-Training said:

john said:

... I
suspect the difference between people who praise Slime & those who
damn it, is the typical size of their punctures.

Most people don't even realize that it had worked. It's designed to be
transparent to the user, and so when it fails fatally, they curse it without
ever realizing how much it had helped up to then.

Some curse it after having a valve leak on a tube that wasn't leaking
until they checked the pressure and/or pumped up the tire. There are
few things that are more infuriating than getting poleaxed by the
stuff that's supposed to be protecting you.
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slime tube runners need carry a four in hand valve tool available from
wal auto or napa or maybe true value/ace

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Earl Bollinger said:

If you ride in a area where you have a severe goathead problem or lots
of
glass, sharp debris and such things, it may be worth it to consider the
airless tubes, or AirFree Tires instead. These are solid tubes and or
tires
that cannot go flat from punctures. they have their own disadvantages,
but
in such conditions the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.

Sometimes, for some people; your mileage may vary. (I have it on
personal reference from one who lives in such an area that in his
opinion, the hassles he encountered with the foam tube replacements
made fixing flats seem like a positively enjoyable experience.)

Quite. I read one review of one variety of airless tyre which went
something like:

"I would rather have three flats a week for the rest of my life than
have to go through the the effort of fitting those things again"

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
The sixth student said, "I ride my bicycle because I want people to look
up to me and say 'Wow! He looks really good up there!' The teacher
replied: 'Go away, Fabrizio!'"

I know several riders who commute regularly and they swear that the airfree
tires are god's gift to cyclists.
I don't know about the tubes though.

Gene said:

crc silison spray before mounting works well for mount-dismount and
lubes the up and down at the tire/rim intresection

Hay Gene

Not a good idea @ Mt. Bike pressures. Especially on the front. I have
to be very careful to clean the rim/tire interface to limit the
rotation of tire/tube during braking causing the stem to angle, which
can lead to stem removal. That's a stemdectomy.
..
Regards, John

john said:

Gene said:

crc silison spray before mounting works well for mount-dismount and
lubes the up and down at the tire/rim intresection

Hay Gene

Not a good idea @ Mt. Bike pressures. Especially on the front. I have
to be very careful to clean the rim/tire interface to limit the
rotation of tire/tube during braking causing the stem to angle, which
can lead to stem removal. That's a stemdectomy.

Last saturday, happened to me twice. New front wheel, and dang no rim strips,
okay, filament tape. Grab a tire, how about this Conti Vertical Pro I haven't
used in forever, should be good in the gadawful sand we've got on the trails.

Went for a short shake down ride, flatted, didn't know why, didn't care, threw
in a new tube and took off with the group. Flatted again. This time inspected
found tears at the base of the presta stems. Checked the stem hole it was
properly sized, no burrs / trash. The slick new rim with production lube and /
or cosmoline everywhere except for the brake path (I washed that with brake
cleaner) would let the smooth dried out sidewalls on that tire slide by and ruin
the tube.

Anybody have a good idea on preventing this? I'm thinking a smear of tubular
glue on the bead area of the tire, allowed to dry before mounting should be
enough once I clean that rim.

Ron
If I was mischevious I'd ask about the rolling resistance penalty of using glue.
Ron

RonSonic wrote:

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Quoted message said:

Anybody have a good idea on preventing this? I'm thinking a smear of tubular
glue on the bead area of the tire, allowed to dry before mounting should be
enough once I clean that rim.

-snip-

Ron,
I've run as low as 27psi w/ very fat fr. tires (2.35"😉, (due to sand)
w/o out slipping the tire on the rim or getting snakebite flats. I just
have to be very careful to not allow any type of lubricant of remain
between the tire & rim.

I would be very leery of using any type of glue in the tire/ rim
interface, due to the possibility of increased difficulty of tire
removal. I clean everything (tire bead area, rim flange inside &
outside) w/ acetone. If your are unable to stop tire rotation by the
above methods, you might try more pressure, & lastly the weakest glue
you can find.

Regards, John