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  1. I have a titanium frame which has some scratches and rub marks, mostly
    superficial. I would like to try to get rid of these scratches. By
    reading the archives I have learned that you can use Scotchbrite pads
    and rub the finish until it looks like a brushed finish. I still have a
    couple of questions.

    First, I dont know what finish my frame is for sure. I know its not
    bright, could be brushed of blasted. Is there any way to tell for sure?
    The frame is a Litespeed Ti-Phoon 2004 model. Does this even matter?

    Secondly,how good does this end up looking? I don't want to end up with
    a piece of junk. Does this look professional.

    I have read that you should use the red pads is this correct? Any ideas
    on where to get them? Supermarket?

    If anyone has any reccomendations shy of sending it back to Litespeed
    for the $500.00 refinishing I would love to hear them.

    Thanks
    Chris

  2. Chris Dorn said:

    I have a titanium frame which has some scratches and rub marks, mostly
    superficial. I would like to try to get rid of these scratches. By
    reading the archives I have learned that you can use Scotchbrite pads
    and rub the finish until it looks like a brushed finish. I still have a
    couple of questions.

    First, I dont know what finish my frame is for sure. I know its not
    bright, could be brushed of blasted. Is there any way to tell for sure?
    The frame is a Litespeed Ti-Phoon 2004 model. Does this even matter?

    Secondly,how good does this end up looking? I don't want to end up with
    a piece of junk. Does this look professional.

    I have read that you should use the red pads is this correct? Any ideas
    on where to get them? Supermarket?

    I use the Green Pads on my litespeed MTB and my Ti road bike. The finish
    looks great! Always rub the pad in the same direction, I usually rub
    perpendicular to the tube. It does not take much to get a good brushed
    finish.

    I bought the pads at Target for ~$1.50. Might as well buy some and try
    it on some hidden area of the frame - back of BB shell?

    -n

  3. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    I have a titanium frame which has some scratches and rub marks, mostly
    superficial. I would like to try to get rid of these scratches. By
    reading the archives I have learned that you can use Scotchbrite pads
    and rub the finish until it looks like a brushed finish. I still have a
    couple of questions.

    First, I dont know what finish my frame is for sure. I know its not
    bright, could be brushed of blasted. Is there any way to tell for sure?
    The frame is a Litespeed Ti-Phoon 2004 model. Does this even matter?

    Secondly,how good does this end up looking? I don't want to end up with
    a piece of junk. Does this look professional.

    I have read that you should use the red pads is this correct? Any ideas
    on where to get them? Supermarket?

    If anyone has any reccomendations shy of sending it back to Litespeed
    for the $500.00 refinishing I would love to hear them.

    Call litespeed and ask them what you can do. They would be the experts
    on the subject. If it was my bike, I would sctochbrite it.
    -------------
    Alex

  4. I talked to Litespeed (ABG) they told me they refinish them $500.00 a pop.
    Chris

  5. Yow, for $500, you can sure by alot of scotchbrite.....

  6. Yow, for $500, you can sure by alot of scotchbrite.....

  7. Chris Dorn said:

    I have a titanium frame which has some scratches and rub marks, mostly
    superficial. I would like to try to get rid of these scratches. By
    reading the archives I have learned that you can use Scotchbrite pads
    and rub the finish until it looks like a brushed finish. I still have a
    couple of questions.

    First, I dont know what finish my frame is for sure. I know its not
    bright, could be brushed of blasted. Is there any way to tell for sure?
    The frame is a Litespeed Ti-Phoon 2004 model. Does this even matter?

    Secondly,how good does this end up looking? I don't want to end up with
    a piece of junk. Does this look professional.

    I have read that you should use the red pads is this correct? Any ideas
    on where to get them? Supermarket?

    If anyone has any reccomendations shy of sending it back to Litespeed
    for the $500.00 refinishing I would love to hear them.

    Thanks
    Chris

    This is a brushed(Scotchbrite)Finish:

    http://www.habcycles.com/p001019.jpg

    -n

  8. bfd said:

    Yow, for $500, you can sure by alot of scotchbrite.....

    It's the elbow grease what costs so much.

    Ron

  9. Llatikcuf said:
    Chris Dorn said:

    I have a titanium frame which has some scratches and rub marks, mostly
    superficial. I would like to try to get rid of these scratches. By
    reading the archives I have learned that you can use Scotchbrite pads
    and rub the finish until it looks like a brushed finish. I still have a
    couple of questions.

    First, I dont know what finish my frame is for sure. I know its not
    bright, could be brushed of blasted. Is there any way to tell for sure?
    The frame is a Litespeed Ti-Phoon 2004 model. Does this even matter?

    Secondly,how good does this end up looking? I don't want to end up with
    a piece of junk. Does this look professional.

    I have read that you should use the red pads is this correct? Any ideas
    on where to get them? Supermarket?

    If anyone has any reccomendations shy of sending it back to Litespeed
    for the $500.00 refinishing I would love to hear them.

    Quoted message said:

    This is a brushed(Scotchbrite)Finish:

    http://www.habcycles.com/p001019.jpg

    What a great looking frame!... ;-)

    I was hoping someone would post a photo of a brushed frame. It sounds
    like the OP's frame is probably bead-blasted. The only really
    thorough way to refinish a BB frame is to totally strip it down and
    blast it again (hence, the $500 quote). That's also why I have never
    sold BB frames (which can save a few bucks up front, but at the cost
    of having the same kind of maintenance issues as a painted frame).

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

  10. "Mark Hickey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Llatikcuf said:
    Chris Dorn said:

    I have a titanium frame which has some scratches and rub marks, mostly
    superficial. I would like to try to get rid of these scratches. By
    reading the archives I have learned that you can use Scotchbrite pads
    and rub the finish until it looks like a brushed finish. I still have a
    couple of questions.

    First, I dont know what finish my frame is for sure. I know its not
    bright, could be brushed of blasted. Is there any way to tell for sure?
    The frame is a Litespeed Ti-Phoon 2004 model. Does this even matter?

    Secondly,how good does this end up looking? I don't want to end up with
    a piece of junk. Does this look professional.

    I have read that you should use the red pads is this correct? Any ideas
    on where to get them? Supermarket?

    If anyone has any reccomendations shy of sending it back to Litespeed
    for the $500.00 refinishing I would love to hear them.

    Quoted message said:

    This is a brushed(Scotchbrite)Finish:

    http://www.habcycles.com/p001019.jpg

    What a great looking frame!... ;-)

    I was hoping someone would post a photo of a brushed frame. It sounds
    like the OP's frame is probably bead-blasted. The only really
    thorough way to refinish a BB frame is to totally strip it down and
    blast it again (hence, the $500 quote). That's also why I have never
    sold BB frames (which can save a few bucks up front, but at the cost
    of having the same kind of maintenance issues as a painted frame).

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

    Say it ain't so Mark--you raised your prices! Still, even at $795 your frame
    is a bargain. 2000+ miles and it rides like a dream. Haven't had to
    scotchbrite it yet although it has developed some wear marks due to housing
    rub and such, and of course scratches from road debris, but I think the
    brushed finish makes this less important than it would on other kinds of
    finishes. Good call on your part, good decision on mine. ;-)

    --
    Kovie
    [email hidden]


  11. Quoted message said:

    Secondly,how good does this end up looking? I don't want to end up with
    a piece of junk. Does this look professional.


    I bought a used Ti frame a few months ago and refinished it with 200
    grit sandpaper. I don't know for sure if it was blasted or brushed, but
    it was pretty dull. Looks nice now. I wipe some Pledge on it every once
    in awhile, and it looks as good as when I did it.

    I tried Scotchbrite at first, but it seemed like it would take forever.
    I cut the sandpaper into thin strips and polished by pulling the strip
    back and forth across the tube, with it wrapped most of the way around.
    Places that are hard to get to have to be done differently; use a light
    touch and try to match the same direction as the other brush marks
    (around the tube, not lengthwise).

    It still took 6 hrs or so, but I'm happy with the results. It's hard to
    get it looking perfect in the corners and where the tubes meet, but it
    looks fine to me.

    -Ron

  12. Kovie said:

    "Mark Hickey" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This is a brushed(Scotchbrite)Finish:

    http://www.habcycles.com/p001019.jpg

    What a great looking frame!... ;-)

    I was hoping someone would post a photo of a brushed frame. It sounds
    like the OP's frame is probably bead-blasted. The only really
    thorough way to refinish a BB frame is to totally strip it down and
    blast it again (hence, the $500 quote). That's also why I have never
    sold BB frames (which can save a few bucks up front, but at the cost
    of having the same kind of maintenance issues as a painted frame).

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

    Say it ain't so Mark--you raised your prices!

    'Fraid so - I held out as long as I could, but a recent (and
    significant!) material price increase pushed it over the edge.
    Sigh...

    Quoted message said:

    Still, even at $795 your frame
    is a bargain. 2000+ miles and it rides like a dream. Haven't had to
    scotchbrite it yet although it has developed some wear marks due to housing
    rub and such, and of course scratches from road debris, but I think the
    brushed finish makes this less important than it would on other kinds of
    finishes. Good call on your part, good decision on mine. ;-)

    You're going to be amazed at how little effort it takes to get rid of
    those cable rub marks. Just a few swipes with the ScotchBrite pad
    and/or 400 grit sandpaper and they'll just disappear. It's almost
    spooky. I swear I could never own a painted bike again - I've
    forgotten how to worry about dinging my bikes. ;-)

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

  13. Mark Hickey said:
    Kovie said:

    "Mark Hickey" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >This is a brushed(Scotchbrite)Finish:
    >
    >http://www.habcycles.com/p001019.jpg

    What a great looking frame!... ;-)

    I was hoping someone would post a photo of a brushed frame. It sounds
    like the OP's frame is probably bead-blasted. The only really
    thorough way to refinish a BB frame is to totally strip it down and
    blast it again (hence, the $500 quote). That's also why I have never
    sold BB frames (which can save a few bucks up front, but at the cost
    of having the same kind of maintenance issues as a painted frame).

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

    Say it ain't so Mark--you raised your prices!

    'Fraid so - I held out as long as I could, but a recent (and
    significant!) material price increase pushed it over the edge.
    Sigh...

    Quoted message said:

    Still, even at $795 your frame
    is a bargain. 2000+ miles and it rides like a dream. Haven't had to
    scotchbrite it yet although it has developed some wear marks due to housing
    rub and such, and of course scratches from road debris, but I think the
    brushed finish makes this less important than it would on other kinds of
    finishes. Good call on your part, good decision on mine. ;-)

    You're going to be amazed at how little effort it takes to get rid of
    those cable rub marks. Just a few swipes with the ScotchBrite pad
    and/or 400 grit sandpaper and they'll just disappear. It's almost
    spooky. I swear I could never own a painted bike again - I've
    forgotten how to worry about dinging my bikes. ;-)

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

    Mark my three Ti bikes are still unpainted, however I recently bought a
    painted aluminium Time Trial bike (Felt) cheap on eBay. When I got my
    first paint chip it was almost like a flesh wound to myself. Titanium
    just makes life so much easier.

    Zoom (Marty)

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