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  1. Tried going to work on the road bike for the first time. A substantial
    difference to the folder. Firstly there is substantially less wind
    resistance. Secondly for some reason I can get up hills a lot better on it
    in that I can use a higher gear and go faster than either the folder or the
    mountain bike. I am guessing the clipless pedals helped here but I was
    surprised at just how much easier it was to climb hills. When I replaced the
    cassette on the road bike I worked out the gearing needed by computing the
    lowest gear required on the mountain bike to get up the hills en route to
    work but today I managed to get up all the hills without even dropping into
    the granny ring. There is something else about that bike that makes it more
    efficient but I can't put my finger on it at the moment.

    Adam

  2. "Adam Lea" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Tried going to work on the road bike for the first time. A substantial
    difference to the folder. Firstly there is substantially less wind
    resistance. Secondly for some reason I can get up hills a lot better on it
    in that I can use a higher gear and go faster than either the folder or
    the mountain bike. I am guessing the clipless pedals helped here but I was
    surprised at just how much easier it was to climb hills. When I replaced
    the cassette on the road bike I worked out the gearing needed by computing
    the lowest gear required on the mountain bike to get up the hills en route
    to work but today I managed to get up all the hills without even dropping
    into the granny ring. There is something else about that bike that makes
    it more efficient but I can't put my finger on it at the moment.

    Tyres? Less weight? I have commuted on road bikes for two years now and when
    I get my hybrid out it's like having lead boots on. That said, having no car
    at the moment my hybrid is seeing a lot of action going to the supermarket
    and back. It does a better job there than the road bikes do.

    --
    Simon Mason
    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net

  3. Quoted message said:

    Secondly for some reason I can get up hills a lot better on it
    in that I can use a higher gear and go faster than either the folder
    or the mountain bike. I am guessing the clipless pedals helped here
    but I was surprised at just how much easier it was to climb hills.

    Clipless pedals give up to 30% more power. 'Cos you can also pull up on
    the pedals they encourage a good circular pedalling technique too. Oh, and
    the aggressive riding position makes it almost impossible to ride slowly.

  4. On 11 Jul, 19:34, Mark
    <pleasegivegenerously@warmail*turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com.invalid>

    Quoted message said:

    Clipless pedals give up to 30% more power. 'Cos you can also pull up on
    the pedals they encourage a good circular pedalling technique too. Oh, and
    the aggressive riding position makes it almost impossible to ride slowly.

    Plus the "I'm on The Beast, I must ride faster than everyone else" ego
    effect! Putting aero bars on my road bike increased my cruising speed
    by a couple of mph, and that had nothing to do with reduced air
    resistance!

    In addition to all the other reasons, if it's a small hill, just
    hitting the base at a higher speed on your road bike will make for
    less work as you're going up.

  5. "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Adam Lea" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Tried going to work on the road bike for the first time. A substantial
    difference to the folder. Firstly there is substantially less wind
    resistance. Secondly for some reason I can get up hills a lot better on
    it in that I can use a higher gear and go faster than either the folder
    or the mountain bike. I am guessing the clipless pedals helped here but I
    was surprised at just how much easier it was to climb hills. When I
    replaced the cassette on the road bike I worked out the gearing needed by
    computing the lowest gear required on the mountain bike to get up the
    hills en route to work but today I managed to get up all the hills
    without even dropping into the granny ring. There is something else about
    that bike that makes it more efficient but I can't put my finger on it at
    the moment.

    Tyres? Less weight? I have commuted on road bikes for two years now and
    when I get my hybrid out it's like having lead boots on. That said, having
    no car at the moment my hybrid is seeing a lot of action going to the
    supermarket and back. It does a better job there than the road bikes do.

    --
    Simon Mason
    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net

    I thought that but my birdy has narrow tyres and weighs about the same but
    that requires a lower gear to get up a given hill than the road bike. I'm
    wondering if it is a mental thing (a more aerodynamic position encourages
    more power).

  6. I've been doing my commute using just one gear (highest gear/middle
    chainring) for the last week or so. Hills are tough but rewarding and
    it's not spinning too much on the flat.

    I didn't think it would be feasible but it's made the journey more fun
    and more of a workout.

  7. Ed_Zep said:

    I've been doing my commute using just one gear (highest gear/middle
    chainring) for the last week or so. Hills are tough but rewarding and
    it's not spinning too much on the flat.

    I didn't think it would be feasible but it's made the journey more fun
    and more of a workout.


    fixed next then :-)

    you know it makes sense.

    T

  8. Tony B said:
    Ed_Zep said:

    I've been doing my commute using just one gear (highest gear/middle
    chainring) for the last week or so. Hills are tough but rewarding and
    it's not spinning too much on the flat.

    Quoted message said:

    I didn't think it would be feasible but it's made the journey more fun
    and more of a workout.

    fixed next then :-)

    you know it makes sense.

    T

    :-) Single-speed for sure, just need to find an old racer somewhere
    that's ripe for a British Racing Green paint job and I'm away. 🙂

  9. Quoting
    Mark <pleasegivegenerously@warmail*turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com.invalid>:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Secondly for some reason I can get up hills a lot better on it
    in that I can use a higher gear and go faster than either the folder
    or the mountain bike. I am guessing the clipless pedals helped here
    but I was surprised at just how much easier it was to climb hills.


    Clipless pedals give up to 30% more power.

    Complete bunk for anything but sprinting. The limit's cardiovascular, and
    funky pedals won't make your lungs any bigger.

    Adam: crank length?
    --
    David Damerell <[email hidden]> flcl?
    Today is Leicesterday, Presuary.

  10. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Secondly for some reason I can get up hills a lot better on it
    in that I can use a higher gear and go faster than either the folder
    or the mountain bike. I am guessing the clipless pedals helped here
    but I was surprised at just how much easier it was to climb hills.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Clipless pedals give up to 30% more power.

    Complete bunk for anything but sprinting.

    To clarify, complete bunk for anything where you're not putting lots of
    power through the pedals. So not complete bunk for many climbs.

  11. Quoting
    Mark <pleasegivegenerously@warmail*turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com.invalid>:

    Quoted message said:

    David Damerell wrote but someone deletes attribution lines:

    Quoted message said:

    Mark wrote but he still deletes attribution lines:

    Quoted message said:

    Adam Lea wrote but he _still_ deletes attribution lines:
    >Secondly for some reason I can get up hills a lot better on it
    >in that I can use a higher gear and go faster than either the folder
    >or the mountain bike. I am guessing the clipless pedals helped here
    >but I was surprised at just how much easier it was to climb hills.
    Clipless pedals give up to 30% more power.


    Complete bunk for anything but sprinting.


    To clarify, complete bunk for anything where you're not putting lots of
    power through the pedals.

    No, this is just the clipless fantasy. If the high power section isn't so
    very short that the limits of the cardiovascular system don't come into
    play, pulling up isn't going to make a blind bit of difference; the heart
    and lungs are what governs you.

    And, frankly, if it is that short, it's not a hill, it's a bump.
    --
    David Damerell <[email hidden]> flcl?
    Today is Leicesterday, Presuary.

  12. Quoted message said:

    And, frankly, if it is that short, it's not a hill, it's a bump.

    B'ah, now you're making a molehill out of a mountain! 🙂

  13. David Damerell said:

    Quoting
    Mark <pleasegivegenerously@warmail*turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com.invalid>:

    Quoted message said:

    David Damerell wrote but someone deletes attribution lines:

    Quoted message said:

    Mark wrote but he still deletes attribution lines:
    >Adam Lea wrote but he _still_ deletes attribution lines:
    >>Secondly for some reason I can get up hills a lot better on it
    >>in that I can use a higher gear and go faster than either the folder
    >>or the mountain bike. I am guessing the clipless pedals helped here
    >>but I was surprised at just how much easier it was to climb hills.
    >Clipless pedals give up to 30% more power.
    Complete bunk for anything but sprinting.


    To clarify, complete bunk for anything where you're not putting lots of
    power through the pedals.

    No, this is just the clipless fantasy. If the high power section isn't so
    very short that the limits of the cardiovascular system don't come into
    play, pulling up isn't going to make a blind bit of difference; the heart
    and lungs are what governs you.

    And, frankly, if it is that short, it's not a hill, it's a bump.

    true though i guess might help to make a smoother pedling style. i
    personally i'm fairly sure that i'd end not getting out of clipless.

    roger
    --
    www.rogermerriman.com

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