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  1. Preamble
    At the start of the year I decided that I was going to make an effort
    to go walking at least once a month. It doesn't sound much but
    something else always seems to crop up. I was on target for the first
    few months of the year - going for Sunday afternoon strolls round the
    Wirral if I couldn't be bothered heading further afield. However, I
    soon realised that starting a walk from home means that I have to
    traipse the same roads and paths that I've been walking for 30
    years....... so I got my bike back on the road and spent the summer in
    the saddle. So that's my excuse; I've "been walking" less than once
    a month but I've been out on "self-powered" trips at least once a
    month (including one 50-miler on my bike!)

    OK, excuses over.

    Trip Report
    I decided, last night, that it was about time I walked the whole of
    The Wirral Way. I've done bits of it on my bike and *might* have
    walked it all on a sponsored walk when I was at Junior School, but
    I've certainly not done it as an adult.

    The Wirral Way runs the course of a railway line which was
    decommissioned in the 1960s. I chose to start in Hooton and walk west
    then north towards West Kirby.

    I got the first bus and train which would get me to Hooton and was
    pleased to find that today was the first day of the Merseyrail "Xmas
    Cracker" 50p Sunday fare. I started walking at 9:15 and, knowing that
    the route was about 12 miles long, decided that I should be finished
    by 1pm-ish. Nice flat route, no intention of dawdling - should easily
    be able to maintain 3mph. I set off at a hare's pace.

    The Wirral Way has obviously had a lot of work done on it recently. I
    can remember that it used to be a real mudbath in places but most of
    it seems to have hard paths now. Still muddy in parts, though. It
    was still quite early for a Sunday morning but, as expected, there
    were "serious" cyclists and dog-walkers aplenty. You probably know
    the sort - the ones who'll nod and acknowledge your presence, not like
    the Sunday Afternoon Hoards who appeared later. Come on, general
    public! It's not hard to say "hello", is it?

    Approaching Willaston I lost the path! I'd left my map in my bag, as
    there's no way one could get lost following a railway line(!) and got
    to a stage where the horse lane and cycle/walking path seemed to
    merge. However, I decided to stay on the path I was on and ended up
    taking a short detour, literally, "round the houses". This was
    entirely due to me still being in "full steam ahead" mode - 6.1 kph
    according to the GPS. I had to slightly double-back in order to visit
    Hadlow Road station. The station has been preserved in 1950's style -
    apart from the plumbing, which was surprisingly good. (If you ever
    visit, you'll not see any signs, outside, for Toilets but they are in
    the ticket/booking office.)

    I pressed on to Neston which contains a section of tree-covered
    cutting. My GPS decided this would be a good time to throw a wobbler.
    "Have you moved several thousand miles?", "Are you indoors?", "Is it
    4th Dec?" - No, No, Yes - but it still decided that I had now walked
    36km (rather than 7-ish) and that my average speed was 30kph. Bother.
    I've snipped out the rogue spike in MemoryMap but, at the time, it
    meant I couldn't rely on the GPS to tell me how far I had walked etc.

    Although Wirral and Cheshire Councils have obviously put some time and
    money into fences, signs and path maintenance, I reckon they could
    improve things even more by adding just a couple more signs in the
    places where it is no longer possible to follow the route of the old
    railway line. I believe the line closed in the mid 60s but it was not
    until 1973 that the Wirral Way opened - so it has to deviate round the
    newly-built houses in a couple of places in Neston and Heswall. I've
    got no in-built sense of direction, so a simple "It's that way >>>>"
    sign would be very handy. Luckily, I guessed correctly and re-found
    the path in Heswall - complete with a sign, pointing back where I had
    come from, saying "Wirral Way 1/3 mile" - Cheers, fellas!

    I'd had a brief sit down and a sip of coffee at Gayton. On standing
    up, I noticed that my hips were aching. Oh bother, I'd seized up in 3
    or 4 minutes and every step now hurt a bit. Hm, perhaps my 4 mph pace
    was a bit daft. I slowed down a bit but, even now, my hips feel a bit
    sore - perhaps all the summer biking was good exercise for my legs but
    I've forgotten how to walk?

    I was now starting to pass signs that had fewer "to" places ahead of
    me than lay behind me. Regardless of whatever claptrap the Etrex was
    making up, I knew I was more than halfway there.

    I can recommend the facilities at the Thurstaston visitor centre
    although they could do with turning their heating down. (Is this a
    sign of my age? I never used to give a second thought to "PC" on an
    OS map!)

    The final stretch through Caldy to West Kirby was uneventful apart
    from the marked increase in path users. It was now Sunday lunchtime
    and the families were out in force. I nearly made one poor women
    faint with fright when I boomed "Good Afternoon!" in my jolliest
    do-not-ignore-me voice.

    I got to West Kirby station at 14:02. The train had left at 14:01.
    Oh well, nevermind. Time for some chips.

    Summary
    An easy walk (ie no hills, no bogs, mainly easy to navigate) of 12
    miles. I really must get out more, though, if I'm to stop my hips
    aching on such easy paths.

    Judith
    PS - Erm, this was supposed to be a brief TR, so thanks for reading if
    you're still here!

  2. Judith said:

    I nearly made one poor women
    faint with fright when I boomed "Good Afternoon!" in my jolliest
    do-not-ignore-me voice.

    That's the spirit!

    Btw, wasn't someone murdered on the Wirral way while out walking the
    dog?
    --

    Paul Rooney

  3. On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:14:49 +0000, Paul Rooney <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I nearly made one poor women
    faint with fright when I boomed "Good Afternoon!" in my jolliest
    do-not-ignore-me voice.

    That's the spirit!

    Btw, wasn't someone murdered on the Wirral way while out walking the
    dog?

    Probably. Some bits would be quite unpleasant in the dark.

    BTW, you weren't accusing me, were you?!

    Judith

  4. Judith said:

    On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:14:49 +0000, Paul Rooney <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I nearly made one poor women
    faint with fright when I boomed "Good Afternoon!" in my jolliest
    do-not-ignore-me voice.

    That's the spirit!

    Btw, wasn't someone murdered on the Wirral way while out walking the
    dog?

    Probably. Some bits would be quite unpleasant in the dark.

    Some nice bits too, though I'm not a great fan of ex-railway lines.

    Quoted message said:


    BTW, you weren't accusing me, were you?!

    Ha! No doubt you have an alibi.
    --

    Paul Rooney

  5. "Judith" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    The Wirral Way runs the course of a railway line which was
    decommissioned in the 1960s.

    Does it go through any scary tunnels? There's one on the old Cheddar line
    which is ok to walk through because your eyes have time to adjust but riding
    a bike through it or running is a weird experience when you get to the dark
    bit in the middle and have to try and keep in line with the light at the
    other end without being able to see anything around you and wondering how
    close you're getting to the sidewalls. Even weirder experience when you get
    up early and find Saturday night's rave is still going on in there for added
    exercise value on your Sunday morning run.

  6. AndyP said:
    Quoted message said:

    The Wirral Way runs the course of a railway line which was
    decommissioned in the 1960s.

    Does it go through any scary tunnels? There's one on the old Cheddar line
    which is ok to walk through because your eyes have time to adjust but riding
    a bike through it or running is a weird experience when you get to the dark
    bit in the middle and have to try and keep in line with the light at the
    other end without being able to see anything around you and wondering how
    close you're getting to the sidewalls. Even weirder experience when you get
    up early and find Saturday night's rave is still going on in there for added
    exercise value on your Sunday morning run.

    The tunels are all quite short ie they are just road bridges rather
    than long underground tunnels.

    Nearly all of them have colourful artwork courtesy, I presume, of the
    local yoof but I've never had to walk/cycle past any of the artists.
    Perhaps they only come out after dark.

    Judith

  7. On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:53:36 -0000, "AndyP"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    | "Judith" <[email hidden]> wrote
    |
    | > The Wirral Way runs the course of a railway line which was
    | > decommissioned in the 1960s.
    |
    | Does it go through any scary tunnels?

    I now carry a tiny Lidl, three LED, head torch at all times.
    I have one in the house for DIY, one in the car, and one in my pocket.
    When they come round again I will get one for the caravan.

    --
    Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk> Sick of Premium SMS scams,
    SMS marketing, Direct marketing phone calls, Silent phone calls?
    Register with http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/
    IME they work :-)

  8. [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:

    I nearly made one poor women
    faint with fright when I boomed "Good Afternoon!" in my jolliest
    do-not-ignore-me voice.

    But... you're one of the quietest people I've ever met!

    Quoted message said:

    I got to West Kirby station at 14:02. The train had left at 14:01.

    Typical.

    Quoted message said:

    Oh well, nevermind. Time for some chips.

    Now that's my idea of a Sunday lunch :-) I had left-over curry today;
    the children all had cheese toasties.

    Quoted message said:


    Summary
    An easy walk (ie no hills, no bogs, mainly easy to navigate) of 12
    miles. I really must get out more, though, if I'm to stop my hips
    aching on such easy paths.


    I know what you mean. I realised I'd forgotten how to walk late this
    morning when I hared off down the road to get to a motor spares shop
    before it closed. When it dawned on me that my ankles and feet (tops
    of) were hurting it also dawned on me that I'd got it all wrong. On the
    way back, which wasn't nearly so frenetic, I concentrated on lengthening
    my stride so that I could actually use my thighs instead of my lower leg
    for walking. /Much/ easier! I need to get out a lot more next year
    than I have this...

    --
    To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @
    where common sense dictates.

  9. [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Btw, wasn't someone murdered on the Wirral way while out walking the
    dog?

    Probably. Some bits would be quite unpleasant in the dark.

    Some nice bits too, though I'm not a great fan of ex-railway lines.


    I must admit I'd sooner see them reinstalled as is-railways, but on the
    whole I rather like walking old railways, expecially if they've got
    tunnels, and especially if I've managed to remember to take a torch.
    --
    To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @
    where common sense dictates.

  10. Fran said:
    Quoted message said:

    I nearly made one poor women
    faint with fright when I boomed "Good Afternoon!" in my jolliest
    do-not-ignore-me voice.

    But... you're one of the quietest people I've ever met!

    Maybe, but I hope I'm always polite. I get mischeviously
    over-friendly when people ignore me!

    I know this has been discussed here before, but I wonder where the
    fine line should be drawn between "being friendly" and "being a
    wierdo"?

    For example, on the bus home from Birkenhead I noticed that Christmas
    Shopping was in full swing. Now this is something I do not
    participate in but, if I were to, I would not say "Hello" to all the
    people who walked past me in the precinct.

    However, if I were to be walking along an urban footpath and met
    somebody coming the other way, I would at least make eye-contact with
    them - but so many people don't. [1]

    For some reason, I do expect to exchange acknowledgments with people
    when I am "out for a walk". Maybe I'm just odd.

    Judith
    [1] Oh dear, I've just worked it out. I do *NOT* make eye-contact
    with people who, from a distance, I can tell are nutters. I think I
    have just answered my own question.

  11. [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:
    Fran said:
    Quoted message said:

    I nearly made one poor women
    faint with fright when I boomed "Good Afternoon!" in my jolliest
    do-not-ignore-me voice.

    But... you're one of the quietest people I've ever met!

    Maybe, but I hope I'm always polite. I get mischeviously
    over-friendly when people ignore me!

    *Giggle* Are you me?

    Quoted message said:

    I know this has been discussed here before, but I wonder where the
    fine line should be drawn between "being friendly" and "being a
    wierdo"?

    Is it not possible to be both? I think I've been managing it for years,
    after all!

    Quoted message said:

    For example, on the bus home from Birkenhead I noticed that Christmas
    Shopping was in full swing. Now this is something I do not
    participate in but, if I were to, I would not say "Hello" to all the
    people who walked past me in the precinct.

    Neither would I. That said, it's great fun to smile at complete
    strangers in a 'knowing' sort of way - or to suddenly stop what you're
    doing, look up, and with your hand clapped over your mouth, gasp.
    Loudly. Whilst pointing to something up on the roof of somewhere or
    other. When you've got the whole place doing it, quietly walk away...

    Quoted message said:

    However, if I were to be walking along an urban footpath and met
    somebody coming the other way, I would at least make eye-contact with
    them - but so many people don't.

    Yep, me too. Well mainly, anyway. I think I make judgments in advance
    about whether I'm going to acknowledge the person or not. Most times I
    do, I think... or do I? Do you know, I always do when I'm on a rural
    path, but I'm not sure I do on an urban one. Oh dear, isn't life
    complicated at times.

    Quoted message said:

    For some reason, I do expect to exchange acknowledgments with people
    when I am "out for a walk". Maybe I'm just odd.

    There's no 'just' about being odd. Some (most?) of the best people are
    odd. I mean, look at all of us here!

    --
    To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @
    where common sense dictates.

  12. Fran said:
    Quoted message said:

    For example, on the bus home from Birkenhead I noticed that Christmas
    Shopping was in full swing. Now this is something I do not
    participate in but, if I were to, I would not say "Hello" to all the
    people who walked past me in the precinct.

    Neither would I. That said, it's great fun to smile at complete
    strangers in a 'knowing' sort of way - or to suddenly stop what you're
    doing, look up, and with your hand clapped over your mouth, gasp.
    Loudly. Whilst pointing to something up on the roof of somewhere or
    other. When you've got the whole place doing it, quietly walk away...

    You too, eh?!

    Judith

  13. [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:
    Fran said:
    Quoted message said:

    For example, on the bus home from Birkenhead I noticed that Christmas
    Shopping was in full swing. Now this is something I do not
    participate in but, if I were to, I would not say "Hello" to all the
    people who walked past me in the precinct.

    Neither would I. That said, it's great fun to smile at complete
    strangers in a 'knowing' sort of way - or to suddenly stop what you're
    doing, look up, and with your hand clapped over your mouth, gasp.
    Loudly. Whilst pointing to something up on the roof of somewhere or
    other. When you've got the whole place doing it, quietly walk away...

    You too, eh?!

    *Chuckle*
    --
    To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @
    where common sense dictates.

  14. In article <[email hidden]>, Judith
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    I get mischeviously
    over-friendly when people ignore me!

    I'll have to remember that if we ever meet ;-)

    --

    Dominic Sexton

  15. "Fran" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Yep, me too. Well mainly, anyway. I think I make judgments in advance
    about whether I'm going to acknowledge the person or not. Most times I
    do, I think... or do I? Do you know, I always do when I'm on a rural
    path, but I'm not sure I do on an urban one. Oh dear, isn't life
    complicated at times.

    Quoted message said:

    For some reason, I do expect to exchange acknowledgments with people
    when I am "out for a walk". Maybe I'm just odd.

    I was walking a little way behind my girlfriend once when someone
    approached. She looked at him but he looked at the ground, then she looked
    back at the ground and he looked up, then he looked back at the ground and
    she looked up.... this was repeated a couple of more times and they passed
    in silence probably both thinking "huh miserable git".

    I'm in favour of random hugging myself.

  16. [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:

    "Fran" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Yep, me too. Well mainly, anyway. I think I make judgments in advance
    about whether I'm going to acknowledge the person or not. Most times I
    do, I think... or do I? Do you know, I always do when I'm on a rural
    path, but I'm not sure I do on an urban one. Oh dear, isn't life
    complicated at times.

    Quoted message said:

    For some reason, I do expect to exchange acknowledgments with people
    when I am "out for a walk". Maybe I'm just odd.

    I was walking a little way behind my girlfriend once when someone
    approached. She looked at him but he looked at the ground, then she looked
    back at the ground and he looked up, then he looked back at the ground and
    she looked up.... this was repeated a couple of more times and they passed
    in silence probably both thinking "huh miserable git".

    I'm in favour of random hugging myself.


    Oh, wonderful! I've now got visions of loads of urw people meeting
    unexpectedly on the hills and indulging in a mass tree-hugging orgy.
    I'm not sure I'll be there for the next expedition after all...

    BTW, I'm still trying to persuade Charlie that camping over Christmas is
    a good idea. Personally I'm quite taken by the idea of arriving at a
    campsite on Christmas Eve, putting up the tent and then spending
    Christmas Day wondering why on earth I can't find a single cafe open for
    breakfast or a hardware shop for meths, but somehow I can't see the
    children going for it...

    --
    To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @
    where common sense dictates.

  17. "Fran" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm in favour of random hugging myself.

    Quoted message said:

    Oh, wonderful! I've now got visions of loads of urw people meeting
    unexpectedly on the hills and indulging in a mass tree-hugging orgy.
    I'm not sure I'll be there for the next expedition after all...

    Yep, when I'm president I shall be introducing Random Hugging Mondays, No
    Traffic Tuesdays and Naked Wednesdays. I'm open to suggestions for what to
    nominate for the remaining days of the week.... maybe Job Swap Thursdays or
    Partner Swap Fridays even.

  18. "Fran" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm in favour of random hugging myself.

    Quoted message said:

    Oh, wonderful! I've now got visions of loads of urw people meeting
    unexpectedly on the hills and indulging in a mass tree-hugging orgy.
    I'm not sure I'll be there for the next expedition after all...

    Yep, when I'm president I shall be introducing Random Hugging Mondays, No
    Traffic Tuesdays and Naked Wednesdays. I'm open to suggestions for what to
    nominate for the remaining days of the week.... maybe Job Swap Thursdays or
    Partner Swap Fridays even.


  19. Quoted message said:

    The Wirral Way runs the course of a railway line which was
    decommissioned in the 1960s. I chose to start in Hooton and walk west
    then north towards West Kirby.

    Thanks for that Judith...
    Haven't walked in The Wirral since "I was a lad"...
    I can remember when there were trains on that line... Ah well...

    My Dad (91) still lives in Kings Lane and I'll be there just after
    Xmas... Maybe take my boots ....
    Cheers,
    MalJ

  20. Fran said:

    BTW, I'm still trying to persuade Charlie that camping over Christmas is
    a good idea. Personally I'm quite taken by the idea of arriving at a
    campsite on Christmas Eve, putting up the tent and then spending
    Christmas Day wondering why on earth I can't find a single cafe open for
    breakfast or a hardware shop for meths, but somehow I can't see the
    children going for it...

    Dear Charlie

    Please can Fran play out on 24th December until 27th December.

    Yours sincerely

    Judith

    PS There will be enough cake for all of you.

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