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  1. Trying to get back into running after a 20 year break. Thanks to some notes on this newsgroup, I
    recently bought some shoes for the "heavy runner". I haven't used them on the road yet, but think
    they will really do the trick for me. Back when I used to run a lot, I used to run on trails as much
    as I could. These days, I need ankle support a lot. I have good hiking boots for hiking, but would
    like to find some running shoes which are "high-top" like hiking boots.... Any ideas?

    Thanks in advance,

    Patrick

  2. In article said:

    Trying to get back into running after a 20 year break. Thanks to some notes on this newsgroup, I
    recently bought some shoes for the "heavy runner". I haven't used them on the road yet, but think
    they will really do the trick for me. Back when I used to run a lot, I used to run on trails as
    much as I could. These days, I need ankle support a lot. I have good hiking boots for hiking, but
    would like to find some running shoes which are "high-top" like hiking boots.... Any ideas?

    Downhill ski boots.

    That, or just do without "ankle support".

    Cheers,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflord

  3. Patrick said:

    Trying to get back into running after a 20 year break. Thanks to some notes on this newsgroup, I
    recently bought some shoes for the "heavy runner". I haven't used them on the road yet, but think
    they will really do the trick for me. Back when I used to run a lot, I used to run on trails as
    much as I could. These days, I need ankle support a lot. I have good hiking boots for hiking, but
    would like to find some running shoes which are "high-top" like hiking boots.... Any ideas?

    Thoughts from my experience which may or may not be relevant to your needs.

    1. Strengthening exercises. I spend a lot of time in the field during the summer with high top (8
    in, I think) hiking boots - but relatively flexible top. I run trails almost exclusively now.
    About 1.5 yr ago I went to a PT for a running gait analysis, and he discovered some things that
    were causing my excessive overpronation and tendency to develop AT. Among other things, he gave
    me some exercises to improve foot and ankle function (strengthened ankles). That has helped.
    I've found the boots used in field work against me to some extent, since the ankle doesn't have
    to do as much work. They were flexible enough that I could roll an ankle in an appropriate
    situation though.

    2. Taping. You might also try taping your ankles. I think it's Johnson & Johnson Coach Athletic
    tape. Doug describes this better, but it's basically a circle of tape around ankle to anchor
    strips. Then take tape down under arch and up the other side. Then finish it off with another
    circle around the top to anchor the ends. A few strips like that create lateral support. I've
    used this on long or poor-footing trails as a safety precaution. It's flexible enough that it
    allows for reasonable ankle function, esp. for dorsi/plantar flexing, but acts as sideboards for
    ankle rolls / twists. But I only use it when needed and allow my ankles to strengthen on the
    other runs rather than using it as a crutch all the time.

    3. Commercial ankle support. Google turned up this
    outside.away.com20020705.html which reminded me that one guy
    in my cross-training group does wear ankle supports while we're barefoot running although I'm not
    sure what kind.

    FWIW, I think I may have seen a trail shoe with a little higher top on the internet and was
    surprised that anybody made something like that. But I don't remember where I saw it. It could also
    be my memory playing tricks.

    Hope that helps.

    Dot

    --
    "Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

  4. Thanks very much for your very helpful answer!

    "Dot" <dot.h@#att.net> wrote in message news:KEo1c.138823$hR.2607766@bgtnsc05-
    news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

    Quoted message said:
    Patrick said:

    Trying to get back into running after a 20 year break. Thanks to some notes on this newsgroup, I
    recently bought some shoes for


    the

    Quoted message said:
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    "heavy runner". I haven't used them on the road yet, but think they will really do the


    trick

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    for me. Back when I used to run a lot, I used to run on trails as much as I could. These


    days,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I need ankle support a lot. I have good hiking boots for hiking, but would like to find


    some

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    running shoes which are "high-top" like hiking boots.... Any ideas?

    Thoughts from my experience which may or may not be relevant to your


    needs.

    Quoted message said:


    1. Strengthening exercises. I spend a lot of time in the field during the summer with high top (8
    in, I think) hiking boots - but relatively flexible top. I run trails almost exclusively now.
    About 1.5 yr ago I went to a PT for a running gait analysis, and he discovered some things that
    were causing my excessive overpronation and tendency to develop AT. Among other things, he gave
    me some exercises to improve foot and ankle function (strengthened ankles). That has helped.
    I've found the boots used in field work against me to some extent, since the ankle doesn't have
    to do as much work. They were flexible enough that I could roll an ankle in an appropriate
    situation though.

    2. Taping. You might also try taping your ankles. I think it's Johnson & Johnson Coach Athletic
    tape. Doug describes this better, but it's basically a circle of tape around ankle to anchor
    strips. Then take tape down under arch and up the other side. Then finish it off with another
    circle around the top to anchor the ends. A few strips like that create lateral support. I've
    used this on long or poor-footing trails as a safety precaution. It's flexible enough that it
    allows for reasonable ankle function, esp. for dorsi/plantar flexing, but acts as sideboards
    for ankle rolls / twists. But I only use it when needed and allow my ankles to strengthen on
    the other runs rather than using it as a crutch all the time.

    3. Commercial ankle support. Google turned up this
    outside.away.com20020705.html which reminded me that one
    guy in my cross-training group does wear ankle supports while we're barefoot running although
    I'm not sure what


    kind.

    Quoted message said:


    FWIW, I think I may have seen a trail shoe with a little higher top on the internet and was
    surprised that anybody made something like that. But I don't remember where I saw it. It could
    also be my memory playing tricks.

    Hope that helps.

    Dot

    --
    "Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

  5. Montrail used to make a shoe the Grand Vitesse that was a low high top but I doubt you could find a
    pair anymore.

    You might try to use a wobble board to get stronger.

    Best of luck

    ----

    runners4bush2004.rantweb.comrunners4bush2004.rantweb.com

  6. makes sense. I'll start working on strengthening my ankles. Wobble board sounds like a good idea.
    I'm going to start using a TheraBand to do some exercises.

    Thanks for your help.

    "Phil" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Montrail used to make a shoe the Grand Vitesse that was a low high top but I doubt you could find
    a pair anymore.

    You might try to use a wobble board to get stronger.

    Best of luck

    ----

    runners4bush2004.rantweb.comrunners4bush2004.rantweb.com

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