Trailer muddy from rear wheel?

in message <[email hidden]>, Erik Sandblom

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I've about to order a CarryFreedom City trailer and think it's going to
get very dirty from spray from the bike's rear wheel. I'm thinking I'll
attach a long mud flap to the rear wheel mudguard. On my folding
Brompton I might make it removable, so it doesn't get clobbered when
folding.

Something like this, but removable, perhaps tied around the mudguard
stays: http://www.biketrax.co.uk/products.php?plid=m6b8s160p225

What do y'all do with dirt on the trailer? Is it a problem? With the
trailer I just ordered I imagine it's a problem if it's dirty and you
want to use in backpack/rucksack mode.

I've never had one you could use in backpack mode. My trailer had a
sturdy, waterproof back, which you could hose or sponge down; I usually
didn't have any mudguards on the bike. A clean every so often seemed to
do it fine.

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Erik Sandblom <[email hidden]> wrote:
| What do y'all do with dirt on the trailer? ...

Let it dry, brush it off. Every now and then hose it down. But not
with a hose connected to Thames Water's mains pressure, oh no.

| ... Is it a problem? ...

Yes, but nothing you do, however big the mudflap, will keep all the muck
off something that sits just behind the back wheel of a bike. It's only
been a problem for us with a child trailer on those occasions when we've
accidentally left some blanket in the vital velcro closure that keeps most
of the muck out of the inside.

| ... With the trailer
| I just ordered I imagine it's a problem if it's dirty and you want to use in
| backpack/rucksack mode.

Yes, well, that's a problem with panniers that try to be rucksacks too.

Erik Sandblom said:

Hello

I've about to order a CarryFreedom City trailer and think it's going to get
very dirty from spray from the bike's rear wheel. I'm thinking I'll attach a
long mud flap to the rear wheel mudguard. On my folding Brompton I might
make it removable, so it doesn't get clobbered when folding.

I found that spray from the unguarded trailer wheels was also an issue
in the rain on my kid trailer. I created a rear mudflap from a heinz
salad cream bottle (ie quite heavy polythene) which I pop rivetted
witha single rivet. After cutting it down until it no longer flapped
at speed I can now rotate the flap up in line with the mudguard to move
it out of the way.

Another problem is that under heavy braking the trailer can push
forward into the rear tire. I have never been aware of this happening
but there are a couple of scuffs on the front of the trailer where the
trailer fabric has worn through

best wishes
james

"Geraint Jones" <[email hidden]>
wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Erik Sandblom <[email hidden]> wrote:
| What do y'all do with dirt on the trailer? ...

Let it dry, brush it off. Every now and then hose it down. But not
with a hose connected to Thames Water's mains pressure, oh no.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/04/05/nhose05.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/05/ixhome.html
Under the Water Act 1991, water companies have the right to impose bans on
the use of hosepipes, sprinklers and irrigation systems for domestic
customers. However, the bans only cover washing "private motor vehicles" and
watering "private gardens". For more severe restrictions, the companies need
to apply to the Government for drought orders

"elyob" <[email hidden]> wrote:
|
| "Geraint Jones" <[email hidden]>
| wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
| > Erik Sandblom <[email hidden]> wrote:
| > | What do y'all do with dirt on the trailer? ...
| >
| > Let it dry, brush it off. Every now and then hose it down. But not
| > with a hose connected to Thames Water's mains pressure, oh no.
|
| http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/04/05/nhose05.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/05/ixhome.html
| Under the Water Act 1991, water companies have the right to impose bans on
| the use of hosepipes, sprinklers and irrigation systems for domestic
| customers. However, the bans only cover washing "private motor vehicles" and
| watering "private gardens". For more severe restrictions, the companies need
| to apply to the Government for drought orders

That's the Water *Industry* Act, 1991, and it looks as though I should
wash the trailer over the drain, but not over the lawn. Hm.

Mind you, under para 76(5): `"private motor car" means any mechanically
propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on roads other than ...
[public service and goods vehicles] and includes any vehicle drawn by a
private motor car.' I'm concerned that the mechanical linkages on a
bicycle may be involved in propelling it, and that a bike trailer might
be drawn by a motor vehicle.

Bizarrely, it's not (as Thames claim) hosepipes connected to mains pressure,
but (para 76(1)): `any water supplied by that undertaker and drawn through
a hosepipe or similar apparatus.' It looks as though siphoning tap water
out of a bucket is prohibitable. And how do I know that the water in my
water butt was not once supplied (perhaps to someone else) by Thames Water,
and subsequently evaporated from their lawn? How similar to a hosepipe is
a watering can?

Geraint Jones said:

Mind you, under para 76(5): `"private motor car" means any mechanically
propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on roads other than ...
[public service and goods vehicles] and includes any vehicle drawn by a
private motor car.' I'm concerned that the mechanical linkages on a
bicycle may be involved in propelling it, and that a bike trailer might
be drawn by a motor vehicle.

I think 'mechanically propelled vehicle' is legalese-speak for
motor-vehicle - it does not mean a vehicle whose propulsion involves
any mechanism. That is, the motive power is from a machine, not
muscle power.

Quoted message said:

Bizarrely, it's not (as Thames claim) hosepipes connected to mains pressure,
but (para 76(1)): `any water supplied by that undertaker and drawn through
a hosepipe or similar apparatus.' It looks as though siphoning tap water
out of a bucket is prohibitable.

It is. Sticking a submersible pump with hose-pipe into your bath
after you've used it and transferring it to the garden is banned.
Doing the same by bucket-load is allowed (and, indeed, encouraged by
the water companies).

Further, I have a large fish-tank, which periodically has 20% of
the water removed and replaced. I do this by having a pump in the
sump pumping out via. a hose-pipe. Putting the outfall on my garden
is now banned. Putting it down the drain is allowed.

regards, Ian SMith
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i artikel [email hidden], skrev Ian Smith på
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Quoted message said:

Geraint Jones said:

Mind you, under para 76(5): `"private motor car" means any mechanically
propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on roads other than ...
[public service and goods vehicles] and includes any vehicle drawn by a
private motor car.' I'm concerned that the mechanical linkages on a
bicycle may be involved in propelling it, and that a bike trailer might
be drawn by a motor vehicle.

I think 'mechanically propelled vehicle' is legalese-speak for
motor-vehicle - it does not mean a vehicle whose propulsion involves
any mechanism. That is, the motive power is from a machine, not
muscle power.

No. A bicycle is propelled mechanically by means of a chain (or a shaft) and
gears. Remove the chain and it's not mechanically propelled.

I don't see why legal documents couldn't use the term "motor vehicle". It's
obviously a vehicle propelled by a non-living motor.

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Erik Sandblom said:

i artikel [email hidden], skrev Ian Smith på
[email hidden] den 06-05-11 23.42:

Quoted message said:

On Thu, 11 May 2006, Geraint Jones <> wrote:
I think 'mechanically propelled vehicle' is legalese-speak for
motor-vehicle - it does not mean a vehicle whose propulsion involves
any mechanism. That is, the motive power is from a machine, not
muscle power.

No. A bicycle is propelled mechanically by means of a chain (or a shaft) and
gears. Remove the chain and it's not mechanically propelled.

Unless you are not barefoot. you are using the high tech sole of your
shoe to mechanically propel yourself along..

But seriously, the legislation defines mechanically propelled as having
a mechanical (ie motor) power source, so Ian is right. A horse and cart
is not a mechanically propelled vehicle. A sailing cart might be - not
sure on that one and they are not exactly common. A bicycle is not a
mechanically propelled vehicle.

Quoted message said:

I don't see why legal documents couldn't use the term "motor vehicle". It's
obviously a vehicle propelled by a non-living motor.

One can conceive of vehicles propelled by gravity, e.g. certain
funiculars.

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