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  1. "Tumbleweed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "is" easier???? Dont you mean, "is easier ...when the prevailing wind
    is in that direction, but on other days when it isnt, its not".

    The prevailing wind in Britain is /always/ westerly. Every single day of
    every year. That's what 'prevailing' means. The actual local wind on any
    given day may not be, but there are only a few exceptional places in
    Britain where on average westerly winds aren't considerably more
    frequent than any other direction.

    Simon, in what way does that invalidate what I wrote, which points out
    what you then state, that
    'the actual local wind on any given day may not be Westerly". Exactly.

    Tumbleweed - although what you meant was correct, what you wrote the first
    bit of your paragraph was wrong. I suspect if you remove the word
    'prevailing' from your sentence quoted above (top - "when the prevailing
    wind is in that direction"😉, it will mean what you wanted it to mean.

    cheers,
    clive

  2. in message <[email hidden]>, Tumbleweed

    (') said:


    "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    in message <[email hidden]>, Tumbleweed

    (') said:

    "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > in message <[email hidden]>, Peewiglet
    > ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:
    >
    >> I'm just at the Sustrans site looking at guides to the C2C and
    >> trans-Pennine routes. I like the idea of doing the C2C and
    >> returning via the Reivers route, but I'm a bit worried about
    >> encountering headwinds. Am I less likely to encounter difficult
    >> winds if I do the trans-Pennine route instead?
    >>
    >> Sorry if there's an obvious answer to this question, but I'm a bit
    >> thick about this sort of thing.
    >
    > There's an obvious answer to this question. The island of Britain
    > lies to the east of the North Atlantic Ocean, over which the
    > prevailing wind is westerly. So it doesn't matter /where/ you cross
    > Britain, west to east is easier than east to west.

    "is" easier???? Dont you mean, "is easier ...when the prevailing wind
    is in that direction, but on other days when it isnt, its not".

    The prevailing wind in Britain is /always/ westerly. Every single day
    of every year. That's what 'prevailing' means. The actual local wind
    on any given day may not be, but there are only a few exceptional
    places in Britain where on average westerly winds aren't considerably
    more frequent than any other direction.

    Simon, in what way does that invalidate what I wrote, which points out
    what you then state, that
    'the actual local wind on any given day may not be Westerly". Exactly.

    You wrote '...when the prevailing wind is in that direction, but on other
    days when it isnt...' That's not possible. The day-to-day wind may
    change, but by definition the prevailing wind does not. 'The wind is
    westerly' is a statement about the weather. 'The prevailing wind is
    westerly' is a statement about the climate.

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  3. Simon Brooke said:


    You wrote '...when the prevailing wind is in that direction, but on other
    days when it isnt...' That's not possible.

    <pedant>

    The prevailing wind can change but on long timescales. So it is
    possible but only if the days are seperated by centuries or even millenia.

    </pedant>

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  4. in message <[email hidden]>, Simon

    Brooke (') said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Tumbleweed

    (') said:

    Simon, in what way does that invalidate what I wrote, which points out
    what you then state, that
    'the actual local wind on any given day may not be Westerly". Exactly.

    You wrote '...when the prevailing wind is in that direction, but on
    other days when it isnt...' That's not possible. The day-to-day wind
    may change, but by definition the prevailing wind does not. 'The wind
    is westerly' is a statement about the weather. 'The prevailing wind is
    westerly' is a statement about the climate.

    Sorry, that came out a little hostile; I wasn't meaning to be more
    obnoxious than usual. Bad day at the office.

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    in the community for you. -- Ben Evans

  5. "Clive George" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Tumbleweed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > "is" easier???? Dont you mean, "is easier ...when the prevailing wind
    > is in that direction, but on other days when it isnt, its not".

    The prevailing wind in Britain is /always/ westerly. Every single day of
    every year. That's what 'prevailing' means. The actual local wind on any
    given day may not be, but there are only a few exceptional places in
    Britain where on average westerly winds aren't considerably more
    frequent than any other direction.

    Simon, in what way does that invalidate what I wrote, which points out
    what you then state, that
    'the actual local wind on any given day may not be Westerly". Exactly.

    Tumbleweed - although what you meant was correct, what you wrote the first
    bit of your paragraph was wrong. I suspect if you remove the word
    'prevailing' from your sentence quoted above (top - "when the prevailing
    wind is in that direction"😉, it will mean what you wanted it to mean.

    cheers,
    clive

    agreed, I stand corrected, I should have put 'when the wind is in the
    prevailing direction' :-)

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  6. Simon Brooke said:

    You wrote '...when the prevailing wind is in that direction, but on other
    days when it isnt...' That's not possible. The day-to-day wind may
    change, but by definition the prevailing wind does not. 'The wind is
    westerly' is a statement about the weather. 'The prevailing wind is
    westerly' is a statement about the climate.

    "Prevailing" can equally mean "generally current", ie the prevailing
    weather here is hot and sunny, but a couple of weeks ago it wasn't.

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