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  1. In June I'm off to Cornwall for my usual break but this year I will be
    taking the bike.

    Looking at my options I think I'm stuck with the train but it seems a
    bit costly at £70 return. This doesn't even factor the cost that they
    might charge for the bike.

    I will be staying at Lizard Point because the YHA has a hostel there
    with bike storage. I live in London.

    Is there any other choices available to me?

    TR

  2. TrailRat said:

    In June I'm off to Cornwall for my usual break but this year I will be
    taking the bike.

    Quoted message said:

    Is there any other choices available to me?

    Ride there?? Or car hire? Bike in a bag and on the coach?

    hth,

    Tony B

  3. Tony B said:
    TrailRat said:

    In June I'm off to Cornwall for my usual break but this year I will be
    taking the bike.
    Is there any other choices available to me?

    Ride there?? Or car hire? Bike in a bag and on the coach?

    hth,

    Tony B

    Thank You Tony.

    Couple issues with the suggestions.
    Firstly, haven't been given enough time off from work to comfortably
    ride there, enjoy myself and then ride back.
    Secondly, no driving license.
    Thirdly, buying a new bike is miles out of the budget.

    But thank you, I knew there was points I should have mentioned.

  4. TrailRat said:

    In June I'm off to Cornwall for my usual break but this year I will be
    taking the bike.

    Looking at my options I think I'm stuck with the train but it seems a
    bit costly at £70 return. This doesn't even factor the cost that they
    might charge for the bike.

    You might be looking at the train fares too early.

    Don't know about the South West, but some friends are intending to travel
    London to NE England in early May. We've discovered that the cheap fares
    currently stop the weekend prior to our trip (weekend before from £10 each
    way, weekend of our trip £90 return at the moment). However, we anticipate
    that the week we want will come on-line next week.

    Bizarre, but that seems to be the way with privatised railways.

    - Nigel

    --
    Nigel Cliffe,
    Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

  5. TrailRat said:

    In June I'm off to Cornwall for my usual break but this year I will be
    taking the bike.

    Looking at my options I think I'm stuck with the train but it seems a
    bit costly at £70 return. This doesn't even factor the cost that they
    might charge for the bike.

    70ukp for the train fare is very steep. This is probably the fair for
    peak travel. Off-peak booked in advance could easily be half this.

    Check first great westerns web site, train from Paddington. With FGW you
    must book a place for bikes, but last time I looked it was about 5ukp
    each way.

    Martin.

  6. Hmmm ... I checked with National Rail booking service - and seventy quid is
    the cheapest price I could find for London to Penzance return. But I've
    found a cheaper option.

    Tony B <[email hidden]> wrote in news:45df3ff8$0$8722
    [email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Ride there?? Or car hire? Bike in a bag and on the coach?

    Certainly, National Express London Central to Plymouth is dirt cheap
    (fifteen quid or less return). Plymouth to Penzance by train is no more
    than nine quid each way (cheapest, three quid each way) according to
    National Rail booking service. So that's less than half the price of a
    direct train trip and could be under thirty quid.

    That said, I haven't checked how bike friendly either service is and I
    couldn't find a direct coach route between Plymouth and Penzance.

    HTH

  7. TrailRat wrote on 23/02/2007 19:08 +0100:

    Quoted message said:

    In June I'm off to Cornwall for my usual break but this year I will be
    taking the bike.

    Looking at my options I think I'm stuck with the train but it seems a
    bit costly at £70 return. This doesn't even factor the cost that they
    might charge for the bike.

    I will be staying at Lizard Point because the YHA has a hostel there
    with bike storage. I live in London.

    Is there any other choices available to me?

    TR

    Have a look at the Megatrain. You can do London to Bristol/Exeter then
    Bristol/Exeter to Plymouth then Plymouth to Penzance. Fares can be down
    to £1 per leg but you can only buy 2 months in advance.
    http://megatrain.com/index.php

    --
    Tony

    "...has many omissions and contains much that is apocryphal, or at least
    wildly inaccurate..."
    Douglas Adams; The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

  8. http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?newsid1154104247,31062,

  9. TrailRat said:

    Thank You Tony.

    Quoted message said:

    Firstly, haven't been given enough time off from work to comfortably
    ride there, enjoy myself and then ride back.

    Fair doo's, it's a long way!!

    Quoted message said:

    Secondly, no driving license.

    Ah. Sorry to assume...

    Quoted message said:

    Thirdly, buying a new bike is miles out of the budget.

    No, that's a misunderstanding - what I meant was, get yourself a bike
    bag (Wiggle have a dhb bag for under £60) and put your existing bike in
    it (wheels out, pedals off, handlebars folded etc.) so it can go on a
    normal National Express or similar. Your bike then just becomes a large
    piece of luggage.

    Quoted message said:

    But thank you, I knew there was points I should have mentioned.

    Sorry, I was only /slightly/ teasing... :-)

    Tony B

  10. Quoted message said:

    Have a look at the Megatrain. You can do London to Bristol/Exeter then
    Bristol/Exeter to Plymouth then Plymouth to Penzance. Fares can be down
    to £1 per leg but you can only buy 2 months in advance.http://megatrain..com/index.php

    Seems like a grand plan, Many Thanks.

  11. Tony Raven said:

    TrailRat wrote on 23/02/2007 19:08 +0100:

    Quoted message said:

    In June I'm off to Cornwall for my usual break but this year I will be
    taking the bike.

    Looking at my options I think I'm stuck with the train but it seems a
    bit costly at £70 return. This doesn't even factor the cost that they
    might charge for the bike.

    I will be staying at Lizard Point because the YHA has a hostel there
    with bike storage. I live in London.

    Is there any other choices available to me?

    TR

    Have a look at the Megatrain. You can do London to Bristol/Exeter then
    Bristol/Exeter to Plymouth then Plymouth to Penzance. Fares can be down
    to £1 per leg but you can only buy 2 months in advance.
    http://megatrain.com/index.php


    This looked like an interesting option that I didn't know about.
    However I have just had a quick look at the Megatrain help on their web
    site and I find "Can I take my bicycle? megatrain tickets do not allow
    you to bring your bicycle(s).".

    Julian Gallop

  12. I was wondering whether there would be scope for an inflatable bike
    bag. You place your bike inside, pump up, an dit inflates to the
    dimensions of a normal suitcase, encapsulating your beloved steed in a
    nice cushioning airbag..

    And doesn't look like a bike either so you don't get officious oiks
    telling you that it cannot be taken on the train.

    ...d

  13. TrailRat said:

    In June I'm off to Cornwall for my usual break but this year I will be
    taking the bike.

    Looking at my options I think I'm stuck with the train but it seems a
    bit costly at £70 return. This doesn't even factor the cost that they
    might charge for the bike.

    Up to £3 each way. Although I think it's £1 each way on First Great Western.

    £70 return is well below the fuel cost of driving a car there. If you
    try booking again 12 weeks before the date, then their advance purchase
    discounted tickets will have been released, and can go down to £14 each way.

    Quoted message said:

    I will be staying at Lizard Point because the YHA has a hostel there
    with bike storage. I live in London.

    Is there any other choices available to me?

    Not really.

    A

  14. Nigel Cliffe said:
    TrailRat said:

    In June I'm off to Cornwall for my usual break but this year I will be
    taking the bike.

    Looking at my options I think I'm stuck with the train but it seems a
    bit costly at £70 return. This doesn't even factor the cost that they
    might charge for the bike.

    You might be looking at the train fares too early.

    Don't know about the South West, but some friends are intending to travel
    London to NE England in early May. We've discovered that the cheap fares
    currently stop the weekend prior to our trip (weekend before from £10 each
    way, weekend of our trip £90 return at the moment). However, we anticipate
    that the week we want will come on-line next week.

    Bizarre, but that seems to be the way with privatised railways.

    Not really: they can only sell tickets on trains that they know will be
    available, and they find it most efficient to not fix their timetables
    until 12 weeks ahead of departure.

    It's possible that sometime soon, someone will develop a system that
    allows reservation of tickets before their released for sale, (as
    Ffestiniog Travel do for you, manually), but at the moment, that's not
    possible.

    A

  15. Nigel Cliffe said:

    Bizarre, but that seems to be the way with privatised railways.

    It was the same with BR. It's just that before Internet booking it
    wasn't as transparent. Indeed, I find getting cheapo fares a *lot*
    easier now than 15 years ago.

    The reason why is that the UK doesn't use train numbers like airlines
    use flight numbers, so the exact train time needs to be confirmed
    before a reservation can be issued. That's subject to engineering
    works and the likes.

    Neil

  16. Neil Williams said:
    Nigel Cliffe said:

    Bizarre, but that seems to be the way with privatised railways.

    It was the same with BR. It's just that before Internet booking it
    wasn't as transparent. Indeed, I find getting cheapo fares a *lot*
    easier now than 15 years ago.

    The reason why is that the UK doesn't use train numbers like airlines
    use flight numbers, so the exact train time needs to be confirmed
    before a reservation can be issued. That's subject to engineering
    works and the likes.

    Well, it doesn't use them publicly. (Except on the display boards of
    Virgin Trains)

    A


  17. Quoted message said:

    Up to £3 each way. Although I think it's £1 each way on First Great Western.

    70 quid doesn't sound too bad.

    Train reservations are free on FGW but not necessarily honoured.

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