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  1. Hello,
    I'm looking to buy an exercise machine (treadmill or elliptical) for a
    couple (relatives) who live in the NE, where the weather is relatively
    miserable for an extended period of time and am considering a treadmill
    or an elliptical machine. They have expressed interest in getting a
    machine, but it really is outside of their means. This would be a
    gift.

    The profile is that they are each ~240lbs and would like to use the
    device along with diet to lose approximately 50lbs each with the goal
    to be able to eventually jog...which, for the purposes of this post
    means that they would like something to be relatively durable enough to
    eventually handle light jogging. I expect the use to be approximately
    1 hour per day (combined time of all participants).

    Cost is a concern, but I would like experienced advice on particular
    machines or expectations, so that I can try to balance the cost with
    something that would meet sound durability requirements. This can
    include to mean that I buy one type of machine now and then they
    upgrade in the future if they continue to use it and/or they require a
    more durable machine (I'm open to options).

    For example, I read that the Smooth 6.25 is a relatively durable (able
    to to handle running) treadmill for roughly $1500 (delivered). But I
    have not read many reviews on the Smooth line of products (I've read
    some good reviews, but am concerned because they only sell direct so I
    cannot try it before I buy it). I have read about "buying a treadmill"
    and believe that I have some understanding of what to look for
    regarding the motor, rollers, programs and options, etc. The
    information on ellipticals seems to be relatively sparse by comparison.

    I'd like to ask...

    - What features would be "must haves" and which would be considered
    "bells" for a basic, durable elliptical?

    - Would the difference in "impact" on the knees be significantly
    different between an elliptical and a treadmill in their beginning
    work, given that they would primarily be walking and/or walking briskly
    for the immediate use of the machine?

    - I believe that I'm looking at about $1000 to $1500 for a treadmill,
    since I'm not sure of the "must have" features of an elliptical, should
    I expect to pay in the range of more/less/equal?

    - For treadmills, do you have any experience with the Smooth line of
    products and/or specifically the Smooth model 6.25
    (http://www.smoothfitness.com/products/smooth_625-t-pct.htm?pct=pct.htm)?

    - Are the any pros/cons that you would provide with a previous
    purchase?

    They intend to use this primarily in the long winters up north, but
    would opt to either walk/jog outside when the weather is better.
    Should that be a determining factor, given the differences in the types
    of workouts the treadmills and ellipticals provide...they could get one
    type on an elliptical and another by outdoor activity?

    Thank you.
    Dave

  2. Quoted message said:

    Hello,
    I'm looking to buy an exercise machine (treadmill or elliptical) for a
    couple (relatives) who live in the NE, where the weather is relatively
    miserable for an extended period of time and am considering a treadmill
    or an elliptical machine. They have expressed interest in getting a
    machine, but it really is outside of their means. This would be a
    gift.

    The profile is that they are each ~240lbs and would like to use the
    device along with diet to lose approximately 50lbs each with the goal
    to be able to eventually jog...which, for the purposes of this post
    means that they would like something to be relatively durable enough to
    eventually handle light jogging. I expect the use to be approximately
    1 hour per day (combined time of all participants).

    Cost is a concern, but I would like experienced advice on particular
    machines or expectations, so that I can try to balance the cost with
    something that would meet sound durability requirements. This can
    include to mean that I buy one type of machine now and then they
    upgrade in the future if they continue to use it and/or they require a
    more durable machine (I'm open to options).

    For example, I read that the Smooth 6.25 is a relatively durable (able
    to to handle running) treadmill for roughly $1500 (delivered). But I
    have not read many reviews on the Smooth line of products (I've read
    some good reviews, but am concerned because they only sell direct so I
    cannot try it before I buy it). I have read about "buying a treadmill"
    and believe that I have some understanding of what to look for
    regarding the motor, rollers, programs and options, etc. The
    information on ellipticals seems to be relatively sparse by comparison.

    I'd like to ask...

    - What features would be "must haves" and which would be considered
    "bells" for a basic, durable elliptical?

    - Would the difference in "impact" on the knees be significantly
    different between an elliptical and a treadmill in their beginning
    work, given that they would primarily be walking and/or walking briskly
    for the immediate use of the machine?

    - I believe that I'm looking at about $1000 to $1500 for a treadmill,
    since I'm not sure of the "must have" features of an elliptical, should
    I expect to pay in the range of more/less/equal?

    - For treadmills, do you have any experience with the Smooth line of
    products and/or specifically the Smooth model 6.25
    (http://www.smoothfitness.com/products/smooth_625-t-pct.htm?pct=pct.htm)?

    - Are the any pros/cons that you would provide with a previous
    purchase?

    They intend to use this primarily in the long winters up north, but
    would opt to either walk/jog outside when the weather is better.
    Should that be a determining factor, given the differences in the types
    of workouts the treadmills and ellipticals provide...they could get one
    type on an elliptical and another by outdoor activity?

    Thank you.
    Dave

  3. Quoted message said:

    I'd like to ask...

    - What features would be "must haves" and which would be considered
    "bells" for a basic, durable elliptical?

    At their stage not many.

    Quoted message said:

    - Would the difference in "impact" on the knees be significantly
    different between an elliptical and a treadmill in their beginning
    work, given that they would primarily be walking and/or walking briskly
    for the immediate use of the machine?

    There's lessimpact from an eliptical because your feet don't leave the
    deck.

    Quoted message said:

    - I believe that I'm looking at about $1000 to $1500 for a treadmill,
    since I'm not sure of the "must have" features of an elliptical, should
    I expect to pay in the range of more/less/equal?

    Treadmills suck in comparison to elipticals. Get a NordicTrack 910
    eliptical. They are about $800 at Sears, but they often have returned
    models for half that price with full warrantys. It is the closest to a
    commercial grade machine as you can get, and for a 240lb person I
    don't think you want anything less. Just go to Sears and look them
    (and the others) over, and the differences are obvious. These have all
    the bells and whistles, and are great machines. Ignore the uninformed
    idiots who'll say "Nordic Tracks are [censored]", because we speak from
    experience. Ours is now about 4 years old, and gets an hour a day WO
    from my daughter, and during winter months another hour a day from me,
    so it will hold up. I reccomended this to others a couple years ago,
    and a couple people bought them and agreed with my assesment. There is
    a full 1 year, in-home warranty on them, and I wouldn't even bother
    with the extended warranty.

  4. Just to follow up - I've been shopping around the local fitness stores
    testing various ellipticals, but have yet to find anything that really
    stands out (I've seen primarily pro-forms, horizons, and nordic
    tracks).

    Online, I have been reading good things about the Schwinn 418 and the
    Ironman 600e.

    Another model that catches my interest is the Lifecore Fitness 990.

    http://www.lifecorefitness.com/lc990.html

    Does anyone have experience with this company/model? It appears to be
    very sturdy (up to 350lbs), rear drive, and in the price range of the
    front-drive models that I've seen. However, there is little press on
    the company/model.

    Thank you,
    Dave

  5. Quoted message said:

    Just to follow up - I've been shopping around the local fitness stores
    testing various ellipticals, but have yet to find anything that really
    stands out (I've seen primarily pro-forms, horizons, and nordic
    tracks).

    Online, I have been reading good things about the Schwinn 418 and the
    Ironman 600e.

    Another model that catches my interest is the Lifecore Fitness 990.

    http://www.lifecorefitness.com/lc990.html

    Does anyone have experience with this company/model? It appears to be
    very sturdy (up to 350lbs), rear drive, and in the price range of the
    front-drive models that I've seen. However, there is little press on
    the company/model.

    Thank you,
    Dave

    You missed the boat. Surely you noticed the ones you mention, the
    Proforms, horizons, etc. all shared one trait, they looked like a
    little kids toy bike compared to the Nordick Tracks which looked like
    Lance's bike? The others have 1" tubular steel, the Nordic Track has
    4" x 5" square tubing? The others had almost no electronics, the NT
    910 has all the bells and whistles. The crappy ones a 3 month
    warranty, the NT 910 a one year in-home warranty.
    Get a clue.

  6. On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:44:58 -0500, Ed Pr0zac <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    You missed the boat. Surely you noticed the ones you mention, the
    Proforms, horizons, etc. all shared one trait, they looked like a
    little kids toy bike compared to the Nordick Tracks which looked like
    Lance's bike? The others have 1" tubular steel, the Nordic Track has
    4" x 5" square tubing? The others had almost no electronics, the NT
    910 has all the bells and whistles. The crappy ones a 3 month
    warranty, the NT 910 a one year in-home warranty.
    Get a clue.

    Sing it bro!

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