Trek vs. Giant

Unless something has changed in Trek's lineup recently, the 1500 is going to be superior to any Giant OCR (and the pricing is going to look quite different for each..)

Trek 1500 = low-end Al frame, Ultegra

Giant OCR = low-end Al frame, Sora (OCR3)/Tiagra (OCR2)/105 (OCR1)

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Originally posted by rek
Unless something has changed in Trek's lineup recently, the 1500 is going to be superior to any Giant OCR (and the pricing is going to look quite different for each..)

Trek 1500 = low-end Al frame, Ultegra

Giant OCR = low-end Al frame, Sora (OCR3)/Tiagra (OCR2)/105 (OCR1)

I have an OCR 3 and love it!, got it for 900 bucks. I don't think you can get a trek for that price, they are usually 1300 up... So if you wanna stay under a gran, go for Giant.

I think your right, Giant for price and quality is the way to go!
I just bought an OCR 2 as well for $800, find a Trek for that. Doubt it!

Cannondale baby. I have the R600 and love it.

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Originally posted by massagetodd
I think your right, Giant for price and quality is the way to go!
I just bought an OCR 2 as well for $800, find a Trek for that. Doubt it!

OCR 2 for 800bucks? surely it must be second hand...

i'v got a colnago specially brought in from belgium, $2200, but totally worth it

Prices vary all over the price. I got my NEW, but leftover Giant OCR2 $660 US and configured as shown on the Giant web site (not the spring collection) In Sacramento California the Trek with equivalent components was $200 more expensive. I shopped around at almost every bike shop within 20 miles radius of me.

I did get a proffessional fitting at a different bike shop than the one I bought the bike at. There I got a shorter stem. Still, cheaper than an equivalent Trek. My opinion is go with the cheaper bike, all other things equal. Properly fit, the Giant works fine for me.

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Originally posted by Weezerbot
Help! Trek 1500 or Giant OCR? Or another bike all together??Must stay under $1000!!

Giant manufactures aluminum frames for Trek, so the frame will be a Giant in either case. If I were choosing between the two, I'd focus on components. Should be an easy choice if, for example, one has Sora and the other has 105s.

What does Lance ride? Which race does Lance occasionally win on that bike? O.K. so Giant make the low-end TREK alu frames, they also make pretty much everybody elses low-end alu frames, but they don't design them, the geometry is TREK, a low-end TREK frame is not just a Giant frame with different decals, I have to say that is a really dumb attitude to take. Also consider how much more money goes to the oppressive Communist Chinese regime when you buy a Giant. Remember Tibet! TREK bikes are assembled in the U.S.A. by people who can speak freely and vote for who they want, that has to be worth a few extra bucks even if nothing else is.

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Originally posted by Charlie Parker
What does Lance ride? Which race does Lance occasionally win on that bike? O.K. so Giant make the low-end TREK alu frames, they also make pretty much everybody elses low-end alu frames, but they don't design them, the geometry is TREK, a low-end TREK frame is not just a Giant frame with different decals, I have to say that is a really dumb attitude to take. Also consider how much more money goes to the oppressive Communist Chinese regime when you buy a Giant. Remember Tibet! TREK bikes are assembled in the U.S.A. by people who can speak freely and vote for who they want, that has to be worth a few extra bucks even if nothing else is.

Good answer!! By the way, I bought the Trek and I am in love!!😄

Weez

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Originally posted by Charlie Parker
Also consider how much more money goes to the oppressive Communist Chinese regime when you buy a Giant. Remember Tibet! TREK bikes are assembled in the U.S.A. by people who can speak freely and vote for who they want, that has to be worth a few extra bucks even if nothing else is.

Last time I checked, Giant was started in Taiwan :-P

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1972, Establishes Giant Manufacturing Co. Ltd.
1980, Becomes Taiwan's Largest Bicycle Manufacturer.
1981, Establishes Giant Sales Company, Taiwan
1986, Establishes Giant Europe BV, Netherlands.
1987, Establishes Giant Bicycle INC., USA
1989, Establishes Giant Company Ltd., Japan.
1991, Establishes Giant Bicycle Co., Canada, Inc.
1991, Establishes Giant Bicycles PTY Ltd., Australia
1992, Establishes Giant (China) Co. Ltd.
1994, Goes Public on Taiwan Stock Exchange
1996, Establishes European Factory, Netherlands.
1997, Establishes Chuansin Metal Products (Kunshan) Co. Ltd.
1998, Manufactures 2,840,000 Bicycles in a single year.
1998, Aquire 30% share of HODAKA in Japan.

THey didn't enter the market until like 1991 and operate until the mid 90s.

Just to clear things up, as Taiwanese people are very sensitive about being called "part of china" 😄

CIA world factbook:

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In 1895, military defeat forced China to cede Taiwan to Japan, however it reverted to Chinese control after World War II. Following the Communist victory on the mainland in 1949, 2 million Nationalists fled to Taiwan and established a government using the 1947 constitution drawn up for all of China. Over the next five decades, the ruling authorities gradually democratized and incorporated the native population within its governing structure. This culminated in 2000, when Taiwan underwent its first peaceful transfer of power from the Nationalist to the Democratic Progressive Party. Throughout this period, the island has prospered to become one of East Asia's economic "Tigers."

BTW, I ride a cannondale :P

Is this poll for real. It seems pretty onesided to me. How could 100% of the votes go to Trek?

If so, then I wonder if it has something to do with the compact design frame. Seems to me that alot of manufacturers are turning to the compact design because it minimises their inventory therefore reduce production costs. That in itself would be the only reason needed for any large company these days to change a design. And any advantage to the end consumer would only be a marketing tool and offer no real advantage at all.

It just seems to me that the philosophy of "one size fits all" has always been a cheap cop out. Now I own a Giant compact frame and it has taken almost two years to finally get comfortable on it through ongoing changes and miles and miles of riding. The persistance has paid off and I enjoy many long rides on this bike. I also have a locally built custom made job which required absolutely no stuffing around. I ride this one regularly too. Thats just my experience.

With all that however I still can't believe that this poll result is for real as I have heard many good things about Giant also and surely some people must have voted for them.

Comparing price and quality of componentry. Giant has the advantage. Trek has you paying for their name. I have priced both here where I live. The Giant is consistently 15% - 20% lower.
For price alone; Giant. For name recognition; Trek. With a $1,000.00 limit in spending; Giant.

Holy Christ - buying Giant made frames does more to fight Communist China than buying "Made in the USA" stuff does - hell, we keep them in Most Favored Nation Status. Are people truly this ignorant about world affairs and make buying decisions off of them?

(p.s - plenty of bike races are won by ONCE on Giant frames, I'm sure Lance would win a Tour on one without much trouble)

How much is a Giant TCR-framed bike in your neck of the woods? These are Giant's step up from the OCR series..

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Originally posted by bikecopjoe
Comparing price and quality of componentry. Giant has the advantage. Trek has you paying for their name. I have priced both here where I live. The Giant is consistently 15% - 20% lower.
For price alone; Giant. For name recognition; Trek. With a $1,000.00 limit in spending; Giant.

Yes you are helping pay USPS salary when buying Trek so you should save a few $$$ on a Giant. I have a Giant TCR carbon frame and love it. My compact frame fits great and rides good.
And you know everyone has a Trek, may as well go for the GEE-on-ta.

Personally, I prefer a compact frame. Trek is over-priced where I am also. Between the two, my vote would be for the Giant.

Although, I think the Specialized Allez Elite is much better than both ($1050 where I am). Ok, so it's $50 over your limit, but it is more than worth it!

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Originally posted by zippy
Yes you are helping pay USPS salary when buying Trek so you should save a few $$$ on a Giant. I have a Giant TCR carbon frame and love it. My compact frame fits great and rides good.
And you know everyone has a Trek, may as well go for the GEE-on-ta.

I own three (3) Treks myself but the bike shop I do business with quit selling Trek and started selling Giant. So I bought a Giant TCR also. Now I look at my Treks and wonder why I spent the money. Besides, the compact frame is much more ridable. I'm here in Houston, Texas and "Lance" lives in Austin. So we have to ride something different just to let him know we're different. (Just think, Lance. You cudda had a Giant!"😉

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Originally posted by micman75
OCR 2 for 800bucks? surely it must be second hand...

Just saw a 2003 Giant at my local bike shop. Brand new for $680.00. I am new to biking as well....

Sounds like a good deal...any thoughts?