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  1. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Richard 'dopey censored' Hedd) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Charles said:

    On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 15:14:44 -0000, [email hidden] (Richard "dopey

    censored' Hedd) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    Charles <[email hidden]> writes:


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >
    > If there is anything else you would like to know just ask you dopey
    > [censored].


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    why do you still post as
    "John Hudson," as well?

    I don't!

    I see. Does Hanson post as you, then?


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    *ACK*! I *am* a right dopey [censored], aren't I? "Hanson" != "Hudson."

    Never mind. Sheesh...

    --
    Jim Seymour | "It is wrong always, everywhere and
    WARNING: The "From:" address is a | for everyone to believe anything upon
    spam trap. DON'T USE IT! Use: | insufficient evidence."
    [email hidden] | - W. K. Clifford, ca. 1876

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Richard 'dopey censored' Hedd) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Charles said:

    On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 15:14:44 -0000, [email hidden] (Richard "dopey

    censored' Hedd) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    Charles <[email hidden]> writes:


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >
    > If there is anything else you would like to know just ask you dopey
    > [censored].


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    why do you still post as
    "John Hudson," as well?

    I don't!

    I see. Does Hanson post as you, then?


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    *ACK*! I *am* a right dopey [censored], aren't I? "Hanson" != "Hudson."

    Never mind. Sheesh...

    --
    Jim Seymour | "It is wrong always, everywhere and
    WARNING: The "From:" address is a | for everyone to believe anything upon
    spam trap. DON'T USE IT! Use: | insufficient evidence."
    [email hidden] | - W. K. Clifford, ca. 1876

  3. Dally <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Hobbes said:

    BTW Dally - by the criteria you use if you consider Charles a sockpuppet
    than you would also be one. Right?

    Bother. I hate it when your good sense goes against me.

    No, I consider Dally to be a nickname. It's a version of my birth name
    as much as W* is, but more accurately reflects my online persona and
    helps insulate between my work life and private life.

    I don't have a problem with people knowing who I am, just have a problem
    with people linking my online name and my "business" name and my last
    name all in the same place because I'm all-to-aware that my views enrage
    whacko-creeps and I have small children in the house and I'm easily
    googled for a variety of reasons.

    So, I guess that means Charles is not a sockpuppet, either. (Gag, that
    hurt.)

    But in the context of Runs with Knive's question, it was close enough.

    Dally

    No, sock puppets always come in the plural. You create sock puppets to argue
    with or agree with your main persona so as to create artificial agreement or
    disagreement. If you only have one posting persona at a time, it's not
    really a sock puppet.

    Hugh

    --
    Exercise is a dirty word. Whenever I hear it, I wash my mouth out with
    chocolate. ("Ladi"😉

  4. On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 16:41:52 -0000, [email hidden] (Richard "dopey

    censored' Hedd) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Richard 'dopey censored' Hedd) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Charles said:

    On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 15:14:44 -0000, [email hidden] (Richard "dopey
    [censored]" Hedd) wrote:

    >In article <[email hidden]>,
    > Charles <[email hidden]> writes:


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    >>
    >> If there is anything else you would like to know just ask you dopey
    >> [censored].
    >


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:


    >why do you still post as
    >"John Hudson," as well?

    I don't!

    I see. Does Hanson post as you, then?


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    *ACK*! I *am* a right dopey [censored], aren't I? "Hanson" != "Hudson."

    Never mind. Sheesh...

    I know it is not the MFW way but an apology might be in order right
    now Jim!

  5. Hugh Beyer said:

    No, sock puppets always come in the plural. You create sock puppets to argue
    with or agree with your main persona so as to create artificial agreement or
    disagreement. If you only have one posting persona at a time, it's not
    really a sock puppet.

    Quite right. What Hudson does is morph to evade killfiles.

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Charles said:

    On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 16:41:52 -0000, [email hidden] (Richard "dopey

    censored' Hedd) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Richard 'dopey censored' Hedd) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    Charles <[email hidden]> writes:
    > On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 15:14:44 -0000, [email hidden] (Richard "dopey
    > [censored]" Hedd) wrote:
    >
    >>In article <[email hidden]>,
    >> Charles <[email hidden]> writes:
    [snip]
    >>>
    >>> If there is anything else you would like to know just ask you dopey
    >>> [censored].
    >>
    [snip]
    >
    >>why do you still post as
    >>"John Hudson," as well?
    >
    > I don't!

    I see. Does Hanson post as you, then?


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    *ACK*! I *am* a right dopey [censored], aren't I? "Hanson" != "Hudson."

    Never mind. Sheesh...

    I know it is not the MFW way

    I tend to go my own way, anyway. In fact: I took them aback at the
    health club yesterday, when I turned some cash I found on the floor
    in to "lost & found." Nobody'd ever done that before, it seems.

    Quoted message said:

    but an apology might be in order right
    now Jim!

    An apology for asking for clarification? Okay. I apologize for
    mixing "John Hanson" and "John Hudson" up. I apologize to both
    victims.

    (At least I caught it before anybody else did! Ha!)

    --
    Jim Seymour | "It is wrong always, everywhere and
    WARNING: The "From:" address is a | for everyone to believe anything upon
    spam trap. DON'T USE IT! Use: | insufficient evidence."
    [email hidden] | - W. K. Clifford, ca. 1876

  7. "Richard "dopey [censored]" Hedd" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Charles said:
    (Richard 'dopey censored' Hedd) said:

    [email hidden] (Richard "dopey [censored]" Hedd) writes:
    > Charles <[email hidden]> writes:
    >> [email hidden] (Richard "dopey [censored]" Hedd) wrote:
    >>> Charles <[email hidden]> writes:
    > [snip]
    >>>>
    >>>> If there is anything else you would like to know just ask you dopey
    >>>> [censored].
    >>>
    > [snip]
    >>
    >>>why do you still post as
    >>>"John Hudson," as well?
    >>
    >> I don't!
    >
    > I see. Does Hanson post as you, then?
    [snip]
    >
    *ACK*! I *am* a right dopey [censored], aren't I? "Hanson" != "Hudson."

    Never mind. Sheesh...

    I know it is not the MFW way

    I tend to go my own way, anyway. In fact: I took them aback at the
    health club yesterday, when I turned some cash I found on the floor
    in to "lost & found." Nobody'd ever done that before, it seems.

    Quoted message said:

    but an apology might be in order right
    now Jim!

    An apology for asking for clarification? Okay. I apologize for
    mixing "John Hanson" and "John Hudson" up. I apologize to both
    victims.

    May not be enough. Should be investigated as a possible hate crime with
    involvement of racial profiling.

    David

  8. Richard dopey censored Hedd said:

    An apology for asking for clarification? Okay. I apologize for
    mixing "John Hanson" and "John Hudson" up. I apologize to both
    victims.

    It's my fault. I used the initials JH.

    But I think there may be some reality to the weirdness of the Charles
    postings. They went beyond the normal daftness into outright meanness
    that made me think of the gmail troll. I wonder if a troll was spoofing
    a troll.

    Dally

  9. On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:02:11 -0000, [email hidden] (Richard "dopey

    censored' Hedd) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Charles said:

    On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 16:41:52 -0000, [email hidden] (Richard "dopey

    censored' Hedd) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] (Richard "dopey [censored]" Hedd) writes:
    > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > Charles <[email hidden]> writes:
    >> On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 15:14:44 -0000, [email hidden] (Richard "dopey
    >> [censored]" Hedd) wrote:
    >>
    >>>In article <[email hidden]>,
    >>> Charles <[email hidden]> writes:
    > [snip]
    >>>>
    >>>> If there is anything else you would like to know just ask you dopey
    >>>> [censored].
    >>>
    > [snip]
    >>
    >>>why do you still post as
    >>>"John Hudson," as well?
    >>
    >> I don't!
    >
    > I see. Does Hanson post as you, then?
    [snip]
    >

    *ACK*! I *am* a right dopey [censored], aren't I? "Hanson" != "Hudson."

    Never mind. Sheesh...

    I know it is not the MFW way

    I tend to go my own way, anyway. In fact: I took them aback at the
    health club yesterday, when I turned some cash I found on the floor
    in to "lost & found." Nobody'd ever done that before, it seems.

    Quoted message said:

    but an apology might be in order right
    now Jim!

    An apology for asking for clarification? Okay. I apologize for
    mixing "John Hanson" and "John Hudson" up. I apologize to both
    victims.

    (At least I caught it before anybody else did! Ha!)

    Thank you kind Sir!!

    My second apology today, my cup runneth over!! ;o)

  10. Dally said:
    Richard dopey censored Hedd said:

    An apology for asking for clarification? Okay. I apologize for
    mixing "John Hanson" and "John Hudson" up. I apologize to both
    victims.

    It's my fault. I used the initials JH.

    But I think there may be some reality to the weirdness of the Charles
    postings. They went beyond the normal daftness into outright meanness
    that made me think of the gmail troll. I wonder if a troll was spoofing
    a troll.

    What in heaven's name are you trying to blame on me now Wendy Marsden?
    ;o)

    Love,

    John Hudson
    www.fitnwell.net

  11. On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:01:46 GMT, [email hidden] (The Queen of

    Cans and Jars) said:
    Hugh Beyer said:

    No, sock puppets always come in the plural. You create sock puppets to argue
    with or agree with your main persona so as to create artificial agreement or
    disagreement. If you only have one posting persona at a time, it's not
    really a sock puppet.

    Quite right. What Hudson does is morph to evade killfiles.

    What else do you expect a dedicated and reviled "troll" to do? ;o)

    [Actually there is a much more practical, but sadly Queenie so much
    more prosaic, reason for my regular "morphing" these days!! ;o) ]

  12. Hugh Beyer said:
    Quoted message said:

    But this is pretty standard for Chuckie after all-- how many times
    has he dumped on a regular for succeeding at something he couldn't
    possibly do? I'm thinking of DZ's muscle-up videos, [...]

    It was all fair I have to say. There was my description of the
    exercise that sounded like an internet lift and I didn't have a video
    at the time. Then there were issues with how my descriptions
    corresponded to what happens in the video and what the proper name of
    the move might be. I wasn't more put down by Charles than say by Steve
    who'd refuse to grant me ability to do a one-arm pullup because I used
    a wrist strap. Fine, it's not a one-arm pullup but whatever the name
    might be. None of that is a problem.

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Charles said:

    On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:02:11 -0000, [email hidden] (Richard "dopey
    [censored]" Hedd) wrote:


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    An apology for asking for clarification? Okay. I apologize for
    mixing "John Hanson" and "John Hudson" up. I apologize to both
    victims.

    (At least I caught it before anybody else did! Ha!)

    Thank you kind Sir!!

    You're quite welcome.

    Quoted message said:


    My second apology today, my cup runneth over!! ;o)

    Glad I could help make your day a little brighter!

    --
    Jim Seymour | "It is wrong always, everywhere and
    WARNING: The "From:" address is a | for everyone to believe anything upon
    spam trap. DON'T USE IT! Use: | insufficient evidence."
    [email hidden] | - W. K. Clifford, ca. 1876

  14. DZ said:
    Hugh Beyer said:
    Quoted message said:

    But this is pretty standard for Chuckie after all-- how many times
    has he dumped on a regular for succeeding at something he couldn't
    possibly do? I'm thinking of DZ's muscle-up videos, [...]

    It was all fair I have to say. There was my description of the
    exercise that sounded like an internet lift and I didn't have a video
    at the time. Then there were issues with how my descriptions
    corresponded to what happens in the video and what the proper name of
    the move might be. I wasn't more put down by Charles than say by Steve
    who'd refuse to grant me ability to do a one-arm pullup because I used
    a wrist strap. Fine, it's not a one-arm pullup but whatever the name
    might be. None of that is a problem.

    Where's that link again to your muscle ups? I have a buddy that wants to
    see it.
    --
    -Larry

  15. Larry Hodges said:

    I have a buddy that wants to
    see it.

    Tell your BF to look at you instead.

    TBR
    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
    more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
    the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
    White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
    H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
    "Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
    but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

  16. Larry Hodges said:
    DZ said:
    Hugh Beyer said:

    > But this is pretty standard for Chuckie after all-- how many times
    > has he dumped on a regular for succeeding at something he couldn't
    > possibly do? I'm thinking of DZ's muscle-up videos, [...]

    It was all fair I have to say. There was my description of the
    exercise that sounded like an internet lift and I didn't have a video
    at the time. Then there were issues with how my descriptions
    corresponded to what happens in the video and what the proper name of
    the move might be. I wasn't more put down by Charles than say by
    Steve who'd refuse to grant me ability to do a one-arm pullup
    because I used a wrist strap. Fine, it's not a one-arm pullup but
    whatever the name might be. None of that is a problem.

    Where's that link again to your muscle ups? I have a buddy that
    wants to see it.

    nm...found it.
    --
    -Larry

  17. On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 08:26:10 -0600, Hobbes <[email hidden]>
    wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Runs With Knives) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dally said:

    Hugh Beyer wrote:

    > The falling out, if anybody cares, was because the W* person was having a
    > knock-down drag-out of the sort she specializes in with Lee, Lucas, and
    > JMW. Chuckles jumped in "defending" her in his usual smarmy and
    > condescending style, expecting, I think, that she would do the Borg mind-
    > meld with him the way Dave-from-Oz has. Instead, preferring to fight her
    > own battles, W* smacked him hard and I don't think he ever recovered from
    > the shock.

    Nice synopsis. I'd forgotten what his problem was.


    [snip]

    Fascinating.

    Since we're discussing Chuckles' mental maladies, can I request that
    somebody clear something up for me? ISTR seeing a couple references
    to the fact that "Charles" is actually the sock of another MFW
    regular. Is this true?

    Not really. He changed his internet name, but has been upfront about his
    identity. He basically dropped the identity with his true name and went
    with Charles.

    I've done a similar thing - went from my actual name to 'Hobbes' and
    sign Keith at the bottom. I suspect most people know Hobbes is actually
    Keith Hobman. And most of us know who Charles is as well.

    No [censored]? I thought Hobman decided to become a Las Vegas high roller
    and dropped out of MFW completely.

  18. On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 16:41:52 -0000, [email hidden] (Richard "dopey
    [censored]" Hedd) wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Richard 'dopey censored' Hedd) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Charles said:

    On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 15:14:44 -0000, [email hidden] (Richard "dopey
    [censored]" Hedd) wrote:

    >In article <[email hidden]>,
    > Charles <[email hidden]> writes:


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    >>
    >> If there is anything else you would like to know just ask you dopey
    >> [censored].
    >


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:


    >why do you still post as
    >"John Hudson," as well?

    I don't!

    I see. Does Hanson post as you, then?


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    *ACK*! I *am* a right dopey [censored], aren't I? "Hanson" != "Hudson."

    Never mind. Sheesh...

    I'm the younger, stronger, better looking, gun toting one:-)

  19. On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:01:46 GMT, [email hidden] (The Queen of
    Cans and Jars) wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:
    Hugh Beyer said:

    No, sock puppets always come in the plural. You create sock puppets to argue
    with or agree with your main persona so as to create artificial agreement or
    disagreement. If you only have one posting persona at a time, it's not
    really a sock puppet.

    Quite right. What Hudson does is morph to evade killfiles.

    Hey Queenie, haven't seen you here much lately.

  20. John Hanson said:

    On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:01:46 GMT, [email hidden] (The Queen of Cans
    and Jars) wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:
    Hugh Beyer said:

    No, sock puppets always come in the plural. You create sock puppets to
    argue with or agree with your main persona so as to create artificial
    agreement or disagreement. If you only have one posting persona at a
    time, it's not really a sock puppet.

    Quite right. What Hudson does is morph to evade killfiles.

    Hey Queenie, haven't seen you here much lately.

    I was just out of town for a few days, and haven't been posting a lot
    anyhow. But I'm definitely still here. I'm getting ready to start a
    weight training class when the new semester starts in a couple of weeks
    and hoping like crazy that I can get some good instruction on how to get
    started with power lifting. I'm going to be [censored] if it's all
    machines.

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