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  1. I am on a five carb 2000 calorie diet and i am haveing the hardest
    time can you help me figure out what things i can eat and what things
    i cant because i have been struggleing with this since march. when i
    found out that i have diabetes

  2. Quoted message said:

    I am on a five carb

    IMHO, five carbs is way too low, even for someone with diabetes. If
    this is the only reason why you're low carbing, you should (gradually)
    find out the MOST carbs you can have WITHOUT a problem-sized insulin
    spike. That's going to be a magic number that's different for
    everyone but once you find it, it will make it a lot easier for you to
    find foods to eat.

    Eventually you'll learn which foods have sufficient proteins, fats,
    and fibers to slow down the digestion of the carbs you eat, which
    reduces the insulin problems diabetics have. Find a balance that
    works for you, don't try to be extreme if it isn't called for.

    If you have an Atkins book, read the seconds on ongoing weight loss,
    maintenance, and the CCLL and CCLM numbers.

  3. In article <[email hidden]>, DJ Delorie <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am on a five carb

    IMHO, five carbs is way too low, even for someone with diabetes.

    Unless the "prescription" was for 5 carb exchanges, which would be 75
    grams of carb.

    Quoted message said:

    If
    this is the only reason why you're low carbing, you should (gradually)
    find out the MOST carbs you can have WITHOUT a problem-sized insulin
    spike. That's going to be a magic number that's different for
    everyone but once you find it, it will make it a lot easier for you to
    find foods to eat.

    Eventually you'll learn which foods have sufficient proteins, fats,
    and fibers to slow down the digestion of the carbs you eat, which
    reduces the insulin problems diabetics have. Find a balance that
    works for you, don't try to be extreme if it isn't called for.

    If you have an Atkins book, read the seconds on ongoing weight loss,
    maintenance, and the CCLL and CCLM numbers.

    --
    "[[censored]] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
    This, apparently, upsets the fools."
    ---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest

  4. Quoted message said:

    I am on a five carb 2000 calorie diet and i am haveing the hardest
    time can you help me figure out what things i can eat and what things
    i cant because i have been struggleing with this since march. when i
    found out that i have diabetes

    We have a wonderful product called Gone4Good that breaks down the
    glycemic index of the foods you eat at meal time which will help you a
    lot! check out my website and search out the products that will best
    benefit you, by the way all of our products are herbal and all
    natural.

    Wellness 101

    Hi, my name is Willie Faison and I'm sending this to you because I
    care about whats happening to us and our families. I'm doing this to
    inform you and to help you if you're looking for help in weight-loss
    or well-being.

    As Americans we enjoy one of the most luxurious lifestyles on earth
    and it's killing us. Why, because our food is plentiful, our work is
    automated and our leisure is effortless. This lifestyle has caused
    many Americans to become overweight. We're fat not only because we
    eat a lot, but also we eat the wrong things. Adult women are now
    eating 335 more calories per day then they did in 1971. And adult men
    have increased their daily intake by 168 calories. We each ate 1,775
    pounds of food in 2000, up from 1,497 pounds in 1990.
    In America we've increased our intake of carbohydrates. Sugars and
    starches have become the staples of the American diet. The food
    pyramid guidelines told Americans to avoid fat and eat grains, but the
    grains we are eating are flour-based items such as; pasta tortillas
    and hamburger buns, which have little or no nutritional value at all.
    As a result we're loaded up on pasta and bread, causing the low fat
    message to backfire. Currently we're eating more vegetables as we
    follow the USDA's food guide pyramid issued in 1992 but there are
    serious flaws in it because some vegetables listed like iceberg
    lettuce could have been substituted for healthier choices with much
    higher nutritional values like romaine, spinach.

    You should be aware that high-fat-carbohydrate meals raise your
    cholesterol levels and send your blood sugar soaring! Which puts you
    at greater risk for diabetes and cardiovascular disease. To make
    matters worse nutritionists are explaining the dangers of inflammation
    of the blood vessels, which cause soft tissue damage to your joints!

    Our body mass index (BMI) is a measurement of body weight relative to
    height. A person with a BMI OF 30 or more is considered obese - and
    at a higher risk of disease, such as diabetes, stroke, osteoarthritis,
    heart disease and other forms of serious cancer. Obesity-related
    diseases cost the United States more than 100 billion dollars
    annually. In 2005, being overweight is predicted to surpass smoking
    as the leading cause of preventable death in the country.

    "AFTER ALL WE ARE WHAT WE EAT"

    THAT'S REASON ENOUGH TO PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY FROM THE
    PITFALLS OF OBESITY!

    A solution for great health & wellness and disease prevention is
    Suddenly Slim!

    Suddenly Slim by First Fitness is a powerful combination of three
    specially formulated, all natural herbal products with an easy-to-
    follow eating program.

    Suddenly Slim helps reprogram your body to burn fat more efficiently,
    which helps reduce overeating.
    LOSE AN AMAZING 10 POUNDS IN 10 DAYS WITH THE 10 DAY PROGRAM AS YOU
    CLEANSE TOXINS FROM YOUR SYSTEM

    Visit My Website For More Information On Our Life Changing All
    Natural Products
    http://firstfitness.com/getbusy4u

  5. x-no-archive: yes

    Buzz off, bub.

    Getbusy said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am on a five carb 2000 calorie diet and i am haveing the hardest
    time can you help me figure out what things i can eat and what things
    i cant because i have been struggleing with this since march. when i
    found out that i have diabetes

    We have a wonderful product called Gone4Good that breaks down the
    glycemic index of the foods you eat at meal time which will help you a
    lot! check out my website and search out the products that will best
    benefit you, by the way all of our products are herbal and all
    natural.

    Wellness 101

    Hi, my name is Willie Faison and I'm sending this to you because I
    care about whats happening to us and our families. I'm doing this to
    inform you and to help you if you're looking for help in weight-loss
    or well-being.

    As Americans we enjoy one of the most luxurious lifestyles on earth
    and it's killing us. Why, because our food is plentiful, our work is
    automated and our leisure is effortless. This lifestyle has caused
    many Americans to become overweight. We're fat not only because we
    eat a lot, but also we eat the wrong things. Adult women are now
    eating 335 more calories per day then they did in 1971. And adult men
    have increased their daily intake by 168 calories. We each ate 1,775
    pounds of food in 2000, up from 1,497 pounds in 1990.
    In America we've increased our intake of carbohydrates. Sugars and
    starches have become the staples of the American diet. The food
    pyramid guidelines told Americans to avoid fat and eat grains, but the
    grains we are eating are flour-based items such as; pasta tortillas
    and hamburger buns, which have little or no nutritional value at all.
    As a result we're loaded up on pasta and bread, causing the low fat
    message to backfire. Currently we're eating more vegetables as we
    follow the USDA's food guide pyramid issued in 1992 but there are
    serious flaws in it because some vegetables listed like iceberg
    lettuce could have been substituted for healthier choices with much
    higher nutritional values like romaine, spinach.

    You should be aware that high-fat-carbohydrate meals raise your
    cholesterol levels and send your blood sugar soaring! Which puts you
    at greater risk for diabetes and cardiovascular disease. To make
    matters worse nutritionists are explaining the dangers of inflammation
    of the blood vessels, which cause soft tissue damage to your joints!

    Our body mass index (BMI) is a measurement of body weight relative to
    height. A person with a BMI OF 30 or more is considered obese - and
    at a higher risk of disease, such as diabetes, stroke, osteoarthritis,
    heart disease and other forms of serious cancer. Obesity-related
    diseases cost the United States more than 100 billion dollars
    annually. In 2005, being overweight is predicted to surpass smoking
    as the leading cause of preventable death in the country.

    "AFTER ALL WE ARE WHAT WE EAT"

    THAT'S REASON ENOUGH TO PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY FROM THE
    PITFALLS OF OBESITY!

    A solution for great health & wellness and disease prevention is
    Suddenly Slim!

    Suddenly Slim by First Fitness is a powerful combination of three
    specially formulated, all natural herbal products with an easy-to-
    follow eating program.

    Suddenly Slim helps reprogram your body to burn fat more efficiently,
    which helps reduce overeating.
    LOSE AN AMAZING 10 POUNDS IN 10 DAYS WITH THE 10 DAY PROGRAM AS YOU
    CLEANSE TOXINS FROM YOUR SYSTEM

    Visit My Website For More Information On Our Life Changing All
    Natural Products
    http://firstfitness.com/getbusy4u

  6. Alice Faber said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am on a five carb

    IMHO, five carbs is way too low, even for someone with diabetes.

    Unless the "prescription" was for 5 carb exchanges, which would be 75
    grams of carb.

    That would be much more sensible, but if so, the OP needs to be more
    clear, esp on this forum where a "carb" is a gram of carbohydrate. Of
    such misunderstandings are major problems born.

  7. Alice Faber said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, DJ Delorie <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am on a five carb


    IMHO, five carbs is way too low, even for someone with diabetes.

    Unless the "prescription" was for 5 carb exchanges, which would be 75
    grams of carb.

    Either way, there's no way to know if it's too low or too high cause
    diabetes is not a one-size-fits-all type of deal; you have to test your
    bg to know if you're overeating carbs or if you can tolerate a bit more.

    If the OP's "struggles" with low-carb have to do with cheating, I'd
    suggest doing a week or two of induction to break the overall carb
    addiction.

    Then add carbs back in gradually, mostly from non-starchy veggies and
    low-sugar fruits, until you find the ideal carb level.

    Weight loss in only one variable; diabetics must eat low enough carb to
    manage bg also: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm

    --
    http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

  8. "Getbusy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am on a five carb 2000 calorie diet and i am haveing the hardest
    time can you help me figure out what things i can eat and what things
    i cant because i have been struggleing with this since march. when i
    found out that i have diabetes

    We have a wonderful product called Gone4Good that breaks down the
    glycemic index of the foods you eat at meal time which will help you a
    lot! check out my website and search out the products that will best
    benefit you, by the way all of our products are herbal and all
    natural.

    Wellness 101

    Hi, my name is Willie Faison and I'm sending this to you because I
    care about whats happening to us and our families. I'm doing this to
    inform you and to help you if you're looking for help in weight-loss
    or well-being.

    As Americans we enjoy one of the most luxurious lifestyles on earth
    and it's killing us. Why, because our food is plentiful, our work is
    automated and our leisure is effortless. This lifestyle has caused
    many Americans to become overweight. We're fat not only because we
    eat a lot, but also we eat the wrong things. Adult women are now
    eating 335 more calories per day then they did in 1971. And adult men
    have increased their daily intake by 168 calories. We each ate 1,775
    pounds of food in 2000, up from 1,497 pounds in 1990.
    In America we've increased our intake of carbohydrates. Sugars and
    starches have become the staples of the American diet. The food
    pyramid guidelines told Americans to avoid fat and eat grains, but the
    grains we are eating are flour-based items such as; pasta tortillas
    and hamburger buns, which have little or no nutritional value at all.
    As a result we're loaded up on pasta and bread, causing the low fat
    message to backfire. Currently we're eating more vegetables as we
    follow the USDA's food guide pyramid issued in 1992 but there are
    serious flaws in it because some vegetables listed like iceberg
    lettuce could have been substituted for healthier choices with much
    higher nutritional values like romaine, spinach.

    You should be aware that high-fat-carbohydrate meals raise your
    cholesterol levels and send your blood sugar soaring! Which puts you
    at greater risk for diabetes and cardiovascular disease. To make
    matters worse nutritionists are explaining the dangers of inflammation
    of the blood vessels, which cause soft tissue damage to your joints!

    Our body mass index (BMI) is a measurement of body weight relative to
    height. A person with a BMI OF 30 or more is considered obese - and
    at a higher risk of disease, such as diabetes, stroke, osteoarthritis,
    heart disease and other forms of serious cancer. Obesity-related
    diseases cost the United States more than 100 billion dollars
    annually. In 2005, being overweight is predicted to surpass smoking
    as the leading cause of preventable death in the country.

    "AFTER ALL WE ARE WHAT WE EAT"

    THAT'S REASON ENOUGH TO PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY FROM THE
    PITFALLS OF OBESITY!

    A solution for great health & wellness and disease prevention is
    Suddenly Slim!

    Suddenly Slim by First Fitness is a powerful combination of three
    specially formulated, all natural herbal products with an easy-to-
    follow eating program.

    Suddenly Slim helps reprogram your body to burn fat more efficiently,
    which helps reduce overeating.
    LOSE AN AMAZING 10 POUNDS IN 10 DAYS WITH THE 10 DAY PROGRAM AS YOU
    CLEANSE TOXINS FROM YOUR SYSTEM

    Visit My Website For More Information On Our Life Changing All
    Natural Products
    http://firstfitness.com/getbusy4u


    In the food pyramid iceberg lettuce is under a diffeent classification than
    romain lettuce and spinach. The recommendation is that you eat.

    1 serving of dark green vegetables
    spinach and romaine
    1 serving of orange vegetables
    1 serving of dry beans and peas
    2 servings of starchy vegetables
    2 servingsof other vegetables
    iceberg lettuce

    each day

    Bob

  9. Helllo,

    I have just started my diet, and restricted my food to:

    -egg whites, fried, with chicken spice
    -low fat, low carb fresh chease 1pound=410kcal with chicken spice.
    -plenty of water

    once a week I have some food like vegetables of fruits
    I have lost 8 pounds in 23days

    You should find pro advice. And also get a second opinion.
    Every person is different, so get an expert opinion.

  10. Bastardo,

    Why don't you restrict your food to:

    -

    That should speed up your loss! Good luck.

    "BASTARDO 65346354354" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Helllo,

    I have just started my diet, and restricted my food to:

    -egg whites, fried, with chicken spice
    -low fat, low carb fresh chease 1pound=410kcal with chicken spice.
    -plenty of water

    once a week I have some food like vegetables of fruits
    I have lost 8 pounds in 23days

    You should find pro advice. And also get a second opinion.
    Every person is different, so get an expert opinion.

  11. BASTARDO 65346354354 said:

    Helllo,

    I have just started my diet, and restricted my food to:

    -egg whites, fried, with chicken spice
    -low fat, low carb fresh chease 1pound=410kcal with chicken spice.
    -plenty of water

    once a week I have some food like vegetables of fruits
    I have lost 8 pounds in 23days

    You should find pro advice. And also get a second opinion.
    Every person is different, so get an expert opinion.

    That's insane.

    --
    http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

  12. sycochkn said:

    In the food pyramid iceberg lettuce is under a diffeent classification than
    romain lettuce and spinach. The recommendation is that you eat.

    1 serving of dark green vegetables
    spinach and romaine
    1 serving of orange vegetables
    1 serving of dry beans and peas
    2 servings of starchy vegetables
    2 servingsof other vegetables
    iceberg lettuce

    each day

    I can't see what possible benefit there'd be to eating iceberg lettuce
    ever. Blech.

    Not too fond of the starchy veggies either; for the most part, they're
    very much tasteless, boring foods with little nutrition for the calories.

    And I'd rather eat fresh beans and peas than the dried versions.

    I think it's better advice to eat 10-12 servings of all sorts of
    veggies, of as many colors as possible, with deeper colors being better
    than lighter colors.

    --
    http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

  13. Quoted message said:

    That's insane.


    Maybe, but it tastes so good, and I lost weight without working out.
    (2,7% of body weight in 23 days)
    A better spice is kebab spice, which contains garlic powder with pepper.
    Garlic is an antioxidans, and pepper is speeding up metabolism.

    Also, both taste fantastic.

    I usualy buy a 500g Meggle fresh diet cow cheese, eat a hole inside, put
    kebab spice, pour milk over that and than mix.
    When milk is mixed with cheese, apsorption is slower so you don´t feel
    hungry at all.
    And if I do feel hungry, I take a low fat yoghurt 0,05%milk fat
    (aprox.50%protein 50%carbs)
    I didn´t take any supplements except for magnesium 300mg.
    Before doing some heavy activities I usualy drink 1dl of juice (50kcal) and
    every half hour another dl. So far so good.

  14. BASTARDO 65346354354 said:
    Quoted message said:

    That's insane.

    Maybe, but it tastes so good, and I lost weight without working out.
    (2,7% of body weight in 23 days)
    A better spice is kebab spice, which contains garlic powder with pepper.
    Garlic is an antioxidans, and pepper is speeding up metabolism.

    Also, both taste fantastic.

    I usualy buy a 500g Meggle fresh diet cow cheese, eat a hole inside, put
    kebab spice, pour milk over that and than mix.
    When milk is mixed with cheese, apsorption is slower so you don t feel
    hungry at all.
    And if I do feel hungry, I take a low fat yoghurt 0,05%milk fat
    (aprox.50%protein 50%carbs)
    I didn t take any supplements except for magnesium 300mg.
    Before doing some heavy activities I usualy drink 1dl of juice (50kcal) and
    every half hour another dl. So far so good.

    Mister Bastardo:

    I must say that this is the strangest diet I have ever heard of. What
    do you call it, the cheesehole diet?

    However, if it's working for you, and you're a happy Bastardo, I spose
    that's cool.

    c
    Bastardokins?

  15. Quoted message said:

    Mister Bastardo:


    🙂))

    Quoted message said:

    I must say that this is the strangest diet I have ever heard of. What
    do you call it, the cheesehole diet?


    It is a modified Atkins. I don´t eat meat, but I do eat over 50% of
    proteins, and also I try to keep the calories low. I now have the "protein
    powder". I didn´t know this can be so tasty. Loseing weight without training
    is realy strange, but it works. And I am not loseing muscles either(high
    protein diet).

    Quoted message said:

    However, if it's working for you, and you're a happy Bastardo, I spose
    that's cool.


    Cool gets as cool is. (would F. Gump say something like this?)

    Quoted message said:

    c
    Bastardokins?


    ???

  16. "H.L" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You're right in it being a modified Atkins. Losing weight by eating
    very few calories while not exercising will not help you in the long
    run. I hope that it is not what you plan to do.

    Well, it's a modified SOMETHING...bears little resemblence to Atkins
    though - the REAL Atkins plan, not the one most people assume they know.

    --
    Sherry
    lowcarb.owly.net

  17. You're right in it being a modified Atkins. Losing weight by eating
    very few calories while not exercising will not help you in the long
    run. I hope that it is not what you plan to do.

  18. "H.L" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You're right in it being a modified Atkins. Losing weight by eating
    very few calories while not exercising will not help you in the long
    run. I hope that it is not what you plan to do.

    I plan to exercise when I lose enough weight. After that my diet will change
    and will include more proteins (2g per kg), more complex carbs like Popeye´s
    favorite food, oats, ... and also flaxseed oil and olive oil. My favorite
    activities are:
    swimming
    mountain biking
    karate training (I can break a 4cm*4cm*60cm oak wood with my hammer punch,
    and I like that)

    I think that swimming makes you hungry so if you eat something like protein
    powder with milk, metabolism will be faster and food will integrate
    gradually. Mixing various proteins will make them slower to integrate.

  19. Why Do People Diet?
    People diet for many reasons. Some are at an unhealthy weight and need
    to pay closer attention to their eating and exercise habits. Some play
    sports and want to be in top physical condition. Others may think they
    would look and feel better if they lost a few pounds.
    http://loose-weight-for-a-healthy-life.blogspot.com/

  20. BASTARDO 65346354354 said:


    It is a modified Atkins. I don´t eat meat, but I do eat over 50% of
    proteins, and also I try to keep the calories low. I now have the "protein
    powder". I didn´t know this can be so tasty. Loseing weight without training
    is realy strange, but it works. And I am not loseing muscles either(high
    protein diet).

    Are you aware that there's a book titled "Doctor Atkins New Diet
    Revolution" that gives directions for how to do Atkins? What you
    described is so far from the directions that caling it modified Atkins
    is nonsense. You're doing fine on your own, so call it that. A plan
    you designed for yourself that has no basis in Atkins.

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