Tufo installation

I stretched mine first, like a tubular. Step in the tire and pull it
over your knee.

Then put about five psi in it and start at the valve. Get the tire
(very) roughly on the rim all around. Next go around and work one bead
under the hook all around one side of the rim. So far this should go
fairly easily.

For me this next bit was the tricky part. Pinch the sidewalls together
to get the second bead under the rim's other hook. Work it in, inch by
inch, all around the rim.

Inflate and ride!

Thank you. I'll give it a try.

Quoted message said:

I stretched mine first, like a tubular. Step in the tire and pull it
over your knee.

Then put about five psi in it and start at the valve. Get the tire
(very) roughly on the rim all around. Next go around and work one bead
under the hook all around one side of the rim. So far this should go
fairly easily.

For me this next bit was the tricky part. Pinch the sidewalls together
to get the second bead under the rim's other hook. Work it in, inch by
inch, all around the rim.

Inflate and ride!

--
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Quoted message said:

I stretched mine first, like a tubular. Step in the tire and pull it
over your knee.

Then put about five psi in it and start at the valve. Get the tire
(very) roughly on the rim all around. Next go around and work one bead
under the hook all around one side of the rim. So far this should go
fairly easily.

For me this next bit was the tricky part. Pinch the sidewalls together
to get the second bead under the rim's other hook. Work it in, inch by
inch, all around the rim.

Inflate and ride!

Ok, so I Googled Tufo. I've never _ever_ ridden anything but a
clincher, and I've always been 'fraid to ever ride a tubular type
because of the repair issues (I'm good at patching and being able to
mount clinchers with my bare hands...can't do that with tubulars)

Tufo has a sealant. My experience with Slime filled tubes has never
been good, and my conclusion about Slime has been that it's a smelly
marketing gimmick and practical joke to play on the mechanic at the LBS:
to fill his work area with the wonderful smell of chum.

From their FAQ page, Tufo tubular clinchers look unrepairable. Is it
safe to depend on the sealant? Does it actually work? Is it better
than Slime? Is it stinky like Slime? Do you wind up throwing away the
tire if punctured with a bit of glass?

--
BMO

Boyle M. Owl said:

Nono, I meant _patching_ with my bare hands along with mounting.

Oh, well, but you do that back at home.

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Mounting seems about the same difficulty as a clincher.

Actually, a properly prepared tubular spare makes it quicker than changing
the tube of a clincher. Unless, as I said, you are paranoid about rim
glue as many seem to be on this NG.

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On the FAQ page for Tufo, they say that clinchers are difficult to
mount. Last year I bought a pair of Vredestein clinchers. The guy at
the counter said that they were more difficult to mount than Contis.
Fine...I still mount and umount them barehanded. Maybe it's just me.

Big, strong hands? But in reality some rims are easier to mount tires
onto than others. IMO that is more of an issue than the tire brand.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | And what if you track down these men and kill them, what if you
_`\(,_ | killed all of us? From every corner of Europe, hundreds,
(_)/ (_) | thousands would rise up to take our places. Even Nazis can't
kill that fast. -- Paul Henreid (Casablanca).

Boyle M. Owl said:

Nono, I meant _patching_ with my bare hands along with mounting.

Oh, well, but you do that back at home.

Quoted message said:

Mounting seems about the same difficulty as a clincher.

Actually, a properly prepared tubular spare makes it quicker than changing
the tube of a clincher. Unless, as I said, you are paranoid about rim
glue as many seem to be on this NG.

Quoted message said:

On the FAQ page for Tufo, they say that clinchers are difficult to
mount. Last year I bought a pair of Vredestein clinchers. The guy at
the counter said that they were more difficult to mount than Contis.
Fine...I still mount and umount them barehanded. Maybe it's just me.

Big, strong hands? But in reality some rims are easier to mount tires
onto than others. IMO that is more of an issue than the tire brand.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | And what if you track down these men and kill them, what if you
_`\(,_ | killed all of us? From every corner of Europe, hundreds,
(_)/ (_) | thousands would rise up to take our places. Even Nazis can't
kill that fast. -- Paul Henreid (Casablanca).

Quoted message said:

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:17:04 -0500, Boyle M. Owl wrote:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

From their FAQ page, Tufo tubular clinchers look

unrepairable.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Is it
safe to depend on the sealant? Does it actually work? Is it better
than Slime? Is it stinky like Slime? Do you wind up throwing away the
tire if punctured with a bit of glass?

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David L. Johnson wrote:
-snip-

Quoted message said:

I have not tried Tufo, either mount style. But I think it's a very
strange concept to make a tire that cannot be repaired, especially given
my experience with tubulars and flats.

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It's not the first (Wolber Liberté in the seventies, Soyo
Seamless in the eighties) but Tufo's system has been
embraced by enough riders to succeed. The great bulk of
tubular punctures seem to be small enough to seal with Tufo
sealer and complaints have been very few (One, here). I used
the sealer in a non-Tufo tubular ( one week old with a
staple in it) that has been reliably sealed for over a year.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

David L. Johnson said:

Boyle M. Owl said:

Nono, I meant _patching_ with my bare hands along with mounting.

Oh, well, but you do that back at home.

Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Usually, rather than carrying spare
tubes, all I have is a few patches, glue, and sandpaper. No, I don't do
group rides unless it's the speed equivalent of a stroll in the park, so
I don't keep anyone waiting. I'm a FOG who probably couldn't keep up
with the Narragansett Bay Wheelmen. Patching on the side of the road
sometimes gives a break for a Saturday or Sunday (sometimes both days)
Afternoon Exploration ride to hydrate up and take in some scenery.

BTW: Saturday Afternoon Exploration rides consist of in-town and
out-of-town "finding the road less travelled" for 4 or 5 hours. This
puts me out in the boonies (if there's such a thing as boonies in RI) or
an odd part of a rough neighborhood, or at the shore. Ride 'til you
bonk and find alternate transportation back. (RIPTA has racks and the
Providence/Newport ferry takes bikes for free). This gives the freedom
to not bother with any kind of plan about where to turn around.

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Actually, a properly prepared tubular spare makes it quicker than changing
the tube of a clincher. Unless, as I said, you are paranoid about rim
glue as many seem to be on this NG.

Some people are neater/fussier than others.

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Big, strong hands?

Heh heh heh.

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But in reality some rims are easier to mount tires
onto than others. IMO that is more of an issue than the tire brand.

I've got a pair of Mavic Open Pros (I replaced the stock rims and
spokes), if that makes any difference.

Maybe I've just got a good technique. I lift up slightly with my thumbs
opposite the stem and proceed to push the tire and tube off by
gripping the tire and pushing/roll it off with the palms of my hands.
This typically takes 'round 15 seconds, and once it's started the whole
thing comes off in one rip, as I grab the tire with my left hand and
pull on the rim with my right. Zip!

--
BMO

Boyle M. Owl said:

...
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Usually, rather than carrying spare
tubes, all I have is a few patches, glue, and sandpaper....

Too risky for me. In my last 10,000 miles or so of riding, 2 of the 3
flats while riding [1] have involved un-repairable tubes (a rip near the
valve and a failed valve).

[1] I have had 6 flats occur while the bike was parked or being
transported in a car after an invitational ride during the same period.
Two of these involved tubes that could not be repaired.

--
Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island