Turning pro after 30 & my accident

Dude,

This [censored] doesn't fool me. This is really Myerson trying to spiff himself.

Dude

"John Lieswyn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4g%_9.128343$AV4.3866@sccrnsc01...

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Kent Bostick told me that he didn't start getting good until 33 or so.

Some

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people bloom late. I'm 34 and I feel in the best shape of my life,

despite

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January's setbacks. I got plowed from behind 100m from the finish line in Brazil Jan 6th. Just
when I felt recovered from that, some invincible

young

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woman in a Jeep 4x4 thought that her vehicle could go normal speed in a snowstorm and plowed into
my Saab at over 30mph, (I was waiting for the

red

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light to change) totalling my car and giving me serious whiplash, concussion, headaches. Although
I have been training at least 90min a day

I

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haven't been able to up the intensity or even come close to staying on

Adam

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Myerson's training plan, because when I do go hard the headache gets

pretty

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fierce. Thankfully it's now subsiding, and I'm hoping to be able to get back on schedule
next week.

John Lieswyn said:

Kent Bostick told me that he didn't start getting good until 33 or so. Some people bloom late. I'm
34 and I feel in the best shape of my life, despite

OK, I know you got it from the horse's mouth. But I have to point out that Kent first cracked
the top ten at Nationals in 1977 at the tender age of 23, something he repeated the following
year. After that he disappears for awhile. But he picked up TWO stars 'n' stripes jerseys (TT,
TTT) in 1985 at
31. If I had to hazard a guess as to what was going on in the intervening years it would be that he
was simply busy with something else like school. But that'd just be a guess.

And as for YOU, that musty old stars 'n' stripes jersey in YOUR closet dates from 1991, when you
were but a sprite, does it not?

Bob Schwartz [email hidden]

John Lieswyn said:

Kent Bostick told me that he didn't start getting good until 33 or so.

Some

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people bloom late. I'm 34 and I feel in the best shape of my life,

despite

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January's setbacks.

Joke or not. The only fool is the already-dead poor [censored] who does not follow his dreams. Wanna
turn pro at 30 plus years of age? Only those who are truly willing to fail often and in grand style
will ever win big. Screw what the naysayers have to say cause they are the little people with little
dreams. Turn up the volume and live it up!

--
Bill

Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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John Lieswyn said:

Kent Bostick told me that he didn't start getting good until 33 or so. Some people bloom late.
I'm 34 and I feel in the best shape of my life, despite

OK, I know you got it from the horse's mouth. But I have to point out that Kent first cracked the
top ten at Nationals in 1977 at the tender age of 23, something he repeated the following year.

Oh, Yeah.... 1978.....Milwaukee Road Front Nationals, let's talk about Bostick "repeating the
top ten". When he went to his car during the race and replaced his own chain. Some abuse of the
'free lap' rule. His fourth place is a tainted one.

Thanks, Ronde Chumpion

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Bob Schwartz [email hidden]

ronde chumpion said:

Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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OK, I know you got it from the horse's mouth. But I have to point out that Kent first cracked the
top ten at Nationals in 1977 at the tender age of 23, something he repeated the following year.

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Oh, Yeah.... 1978.....Milwaukee Road Front Nationals, let's talk about Bostick "repeating the
top ten". When he went to his car during the race and replaced his own chain. Some abuse of
the 'free lap' rule. His fourth place is a tainted one.

angelfire.comus road.htmlOpen ↗

Fourth place in the 1978 road race was Wayne Stetina.

angelfire.comus tt.htmlOpen ↗

Bostick took 7th in the TT.

Bob Schwartz [email hidden]

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Oh, Yeah.... 1978.....Milwaukee Road Front Nationals, let's talk about Bostick "repeating
the top ten". When he went to his car during the race and replaced his own chain. Some abuse
of the 'free lap' rule. His fourth place is a tainted one.

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angelfire.comus road.htmlOpen ↗

Fourth place in the 1978 road race was Wayne Stetina.

My recollection is that Bostic sat out a lap or two undetected, then took a podium position at the
finish (perhaps second) and was awarded a medal. He was later disqualified after it was learned what
he had done. As I recall he also earned a short suspension for that stunt.

For comparison, in the junior road race championship that year Chris Springer, who was a five time
national champion in junior events, was disqualified at the starting line and later that day was
suspended for a year for throwing a firecracker out of a dormitory window. Never mind that this
alleged incident never happened and that if it had happened it had nothing to do with bike racing.
That incident got me started in USCF politics.

-Les Earnest

"BBC3" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<kW0%9.123585$Ve4.8265@sccrnsc03>...

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John Lieswyn said:

Kent Bostick told me that he didn't start getting good until 33 or so.

Some

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people bloom late. I'm 34 and I feel in the best shape of my life,

despite

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January's setbacks.

Joke or not. The only fool is the already-dead poor [censored] who does not follow his dreams. Wanna
turn pro at 30 plus years of age? Only those who are truly willing to fail often and in grand
style will ever win big. Screw what the naysayers have to say cause they are the little people
with little dreams. Turn up the volume and live it up!

Dude,

What the [censored] are you talking about?

Deez "Turn up the volume and live it up!" nuts

"Bob Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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OK, I know you got it from the horse's mouth. But I have to point out that Kent first cracked
the top ten at Nationals in 1977 at the tender age of 23, something he repeated the following
year. After that he disappears for awhile. But he picked up TWO stars 'n' stripes jerseys (TT,
TTT) in 1985 at
31.

1985 Road Natz were extremely lacking in quality riders. Ten Speed Drive placed 1-2-3-5 in the
ITT riding funny bikes with rear discs (equipment hardly anyone else had). Wayne Stetina won the
road race.

IIRC natz was run at the same time as the Coors Classic which drew away the top talent.

"Bob Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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OK, I know you got it from the horse's mouth. But I have to point out that Kent first cracked the
top ten at Nationals in 1977 at the tender age of 23

Now with respect to Kent for the fact that he's not the one here bragging (but he probably would be
if he was here), but a 58:16 isn't exactly smoking fast, especially when he got beat by a minute by
some punk junior.

Carl Sundquist said:

"Bob Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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OK, I know you got it from the horse's mouth. But I have to point out that Kent first cracked the
top ten at Nationals in 1977 at the tender age of 23

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Now with respect to Kent for the fact that he's not the one here bragging (but he probably would
be if he was here), but a 58:16 isn't exactly smoking fast, especially when he got beat by a
minute by some punk junior.

Who knows what the conditions were? I may be a geezerhead but I was in high school then. But that
punk junior won the TT in his first year as a senior so he was certainly already one of the best.

Bob Schwartz [email hidden]

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Now with respect to Kent for the fact that he's not the one here

bragging

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(but he probably would be if he was here), but a 58:16 isn't exactly

smoking

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fast, especially when he got beat by a minute by some punk junior.

Who knows what the conditions were? I may be a geezerhead but I was in high school then. But that
punk junior won the TT in his first year as a senior so he was certainly already one of the best.

The times don't show any category disproportionately faster or slower than what would reasonably be
expected, even though Bostick would have ended up 3rd in the Juniors.

I don't troll very often, but calling Andy Weaver a "punk junior" should have been a dead giveaway.
Ian Jones was a very good rider, too.

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The times don't show any category disproportionately faster or slower than what would reasonably
be expected, even though Bostick would have ended up 3rd in the Juniors.

I don't troll very often, but calling Andy Weaver a "punk junior" should have been a dead
giveaway. Ian Jones was a very good rider, too.

When I started racing those two were the ones to beat in the junior events. Add in Steve Pyle, who
like Ian Jones was from my state of CT.

Bonus trivia: What now defunct bicycle brand sponsored the team those three rode for? Hint: Lee
Iacocca knows.

-WG

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The times don't show any category disproportionately faster or slower

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what would reasonably be expected, even though Bostick would have ended

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3rd in the Juniors.

I don't troll very often, but calling Andy Weaver a "punk junior" should have been a dead
giveaway. Ian Jones was a very good rider, too.

When I started racing those two were the ones to beat in the junior events. Add in Steve Pyle, who
like Ian Jones was from my state of CT.

Bonus trivia: What now defunct bicycle brand sponsored the team those three rode for? Hint: Lee
Iacocca knows.

Austro-Daimler.

Andy Coggan

Huh? The Stetina brothers were both in the top four and Davis Phinney was 7th and Doug Shapiro was
8th! I wonder what you called quality riders then!

"Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Bob Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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OK, I know you got it from the horse's mouth. But I have to point out that Kent first cracked
the top ten at Nationals in 1977 at the tender age of 23, something he repeated the following
year. After that he disappears for awhile. But he picked up TWO stars 'n' stripes jerseys (TT,
TTT) in 1985 at
31.

1985 Road Natz were extremely lacking in quality riders. Ten Speed

Drive

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placed 1-2-3-5 in the ITT riding funny bikes with rear discs

(equipment

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hardly anyone else had). Wayne Stetina won the road race.

IIRC natz was run at the same time as the Coors Classic which drew

away the

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top talent.

Carl, I was racing motorcycles at the time but I've heard several people say that the best
American bicycle racer they ever saw (and they've seen LeMond and Armstrong) was Wayne Stetina.
What do you think?

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"Bob Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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OK, I know you got it from the horse's mouth. But I have to point out that Kent first cracked
the top ten at Nationals in 1977 at the tender age of 23

Now with respect to Kent for the fact that he's not the one here

bragging

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(but he probably would be if he was here), but a 58:16 isn't exactly

smoking

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fast, especially when he got beat by a minute by some punk junior.

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Carl, I was racing motorcycles at the time but I've heard several people say that the best
American bicycle racer they ever saw (and they've seen LeMond and Armstrong) was Wayne Stetina.
What do you think?

No way was Wayne Stetina, a mere American pro who couldn't win much of anything in Europe at the
time, in the same league as GL and LA. Even John Howard had better results than the Stetinas. Back
then the Americans were considered a joke in the European peloton at events like the Worlds. George
Mount got a 5th at the Montreal Olympics and that was really the first time an American (male) did
anything noteworthy against the Euro pros on the road. Then Jonathan Boyer's 9th in the Tour, Mike
Neel's 10th in the World RR, then Greg LeMond and the 7-11 team winning a stage in the Giro...

It is nice to see that some of the Stetina brothers are still involved in cycling.

-WG

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than

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what would reasonably be expected, even though Bostick would have ended

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3rd in the Juniors.

I don't troll very often, but calling Andy Weaver a "punk junior" should have been a dead
giveaway. Ian Jones was a very good rider, too.

When I started racing those two were the ones to beat in the junior events. Add in Steve Pyle,
who like Ian Jones was from my state of CT.

Bonus trivia: What now defunct bicycle brand sponsored the team those three rode for? Hint: Lee
Iacocca knows.

Austro-Daimler.

Andy Coggan

Too easy for an old guy!

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Huh? The Stetina brothers were both in the top four and Davis Phinney was 7th and Doug Shapiro was
8th! I wonder what you called quality riders then!

"Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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1985 Road Natz were extremely lacking in quality riders. Ten Speed

Drive

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placed 1-2-3-5 in the ITT riding funny bikes with rear discs

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hardly anyone else had). Wayne Stetina won the road race.

Wrong year, Tom. I was referring to 1985 as you can see above.

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Carl, I was racing motorcycles at the time but I've heard several people say that the best
American bicycle racer they ever saw (and they've seen LeMond and Armstrong) was Wayne Stetina.
What do you think?

Wayne was good. I think Dale was better. I don't think either of them would have been in the same
league as Lemond or Armstrong, though.

In 1985 (the year I was referring to), Wayne was past his prime and probably working for Shimano
already. He made the most of a good opportunity on a course that doesn't have much climbing. In his
prime or not, he beat everyone else who was there.