Tyler won't forget all you doubters...

MagillaGorilla said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/14/sports/othersports/14hamilton.ready.html?pagewanted=4&oref=login

An angry yet uncertain Hamilton says: "I'm a nice person and I try to
forgive people, but not this time, not with this. I've lost a lot of
trust in people because they have backed off from me when I needed them
the most. When my name is cleared, I'm going to remember those people.
They'd better not come crawling back to me when this is all over."

Crossword not going well then?
http://tinyurl.com/3rnzv

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MagillaGorilla said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/14/sports/othersports/14hamilton.ready.html?pagewanted=4&oref=login
An angry yet uncertain Hamilton says: "I'm a nice person and I try to
forgive people, but not this time, not with this. I've lost a lot of
trust in people because they have backed off from me when I needed them
the most. When my name is cleared, I'm going to remember those people.
They'd better not come crawling back to me when this is all over."

Crossword not going well then?
http://tinyurl.com/3rnzv

Tyler, this is not the best way to build good will for the bike shop you'll
be opening in Marblehead.

Stewart Fleming said:

Crossword not going well then?
http://tinyurl.com/3rnzv

It is kinda hard, for lack of crossings (and crossword-solving ability
on my part, probably).

1. Tyler (P-R = public relations?)
5. Phonak? (I don't even understand the descr.)
6. Ferrari
9. Rat
11. Lance?
12. ..m.........

2. EPO
3. Joke?
4. ...e. (what's a wat?)
5. Perez
7. IV
8. ?
10. Tom

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B. Lafferty said:

Tyler, this is not the best way to build good will for the bike shop

you'll

Quoted message said:

be opening in Marblehead.

Dumbass -

lol.

Actually, I'll bet his bike shop would do OK. There's that diehard
contingent that believes that he's innocent because he's a nice guy.
K. Gringioni.

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Quoted message said:

B. Lafferty said:

Tyler, this is not the best way to build good will for the bike shop

you'll

Quoted message said:

be opening in Marblehead.

Dumbass -

lol.

Actually, I'll bet his bike shop would do OK. There's that diehard
contingent that believes that he's innocent because he's a nice guy.
K. Gringioni.

After five years he'd be scraping to make a decent living like all the other
guys in the retail side of the industry.

Kurgan Gringioni said:

B. Lafferty said:

Tyler, this is not the best way to build good will for the bike shop

you'll

Quoted message said:

be opening in Marblehead.

Dumbass -

lol.

Actually, I'll bet his bike shop would do OK. There's that diehard
contingent that believes that he's innocent because he's a nice guy.
K. Gringioni.

Most people believe he's innocent because the concept of homologous
bloood transfusions defies empirical knowledge (why not auto-transfuse
since you know it's not detectable? how do you type the blood? how do
you find a donor? who helps you do this complex procedure?) and because
the test results have to be "interpreted by experts after it is labeled
'suspicious.'" Not exactly a mass spec result, now is it?

You still don't know the science behind the test and your blind
acceptance of it is a disgrace to the concept of due process.

Magilla

MagillaGorilla said:

Most people believe he's innocent because the concept of homologous
bloood transfusions defies empirical knowledge (why not

auto-transfuse

Quoted message said:

since you know it's not detectable? how do you type the blood? how

do

Quoted message said:

you find a donor? who helps you do this complex procedure?) and

because

Quoted message said:

the test results have to be "interpreted by experts after it is

labeled

Quoted message said:

'suspicious.'" Not exactly a mass spec result, now is it?

You still don't know the science behind the test and your blind
acceptance of it is a disgrace to the concept of due process.

Dumbass -

If the test is that bad, why did he fail 3 out of 3 and no one else
except his teamate got even 1 positive?

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

If the test is that bad, why did he fail 3 out of 3 and no one else
except his teamate got even 1 positive?

If the test is bad, who knows what it is detecting? Could be there is
something different in the blood of those that got positives.
-------------
Alex

Alex Rodriguez said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

If the test is that bad, why did he fail 3 out of 3 and no one else
except his teamate got even 1 positive?

If the test is bad, who knows what it is detecting? Could be there

is

Quoted message said:

something different in the blood of those that got positives.

Dumbass -

I can think of 1 thing:
someone else's blood cells.

K. Gringioni.
RBR hematologist

Kurgan Gringioni said:

Dumbass -

If the test is that bad, why did he fail 3 out of 3 and no one else
except his teamate got even 1 positive?

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Did all the samples get tested for homologous blood transfusion or only
those that looked "suspicious" for some reason?

Kurgan Gringioni said:

Dumbass -

If the test is that bad, why did he fail 3 out of 3 and no one else
except his teamate got even 1 positive?

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Did all the samples get tested for homologous blood transfusion or only
those that looked "suspicious" for some reason?

Kurgan Gringioni said:

Dumbass -

If the test is that bad, why did he fail 3 out of 3 and no one else
except his teamate got even 1 positive?

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Did all the samples get tested for homologous blood transfusion or only
those that looked "suspicious" for some reason?

Kurgan Gringioni said:

Dumbass -

If the test is that bad, why did he fail 3 out of 3 and no one else
except his teamate got even 1 positive?

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Did all the samples get tested for homologous blood transfusion or only
those that looked "suspicious" for some reason?

On 11/15/2004 10:47 AM, in article
[email hidden], "B. Lafferty"

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"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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B. Lafferty said:

Tyler, this is not the best way to build good will for the bike shop

you'll

Quoted message said:

be opening in Marblehead.

Dumbass -

lol.

Actually, I'll bet his bike shop would do OK. There's that diehard
contingent that believes that he's innocent because he's a nice guy.
K. Gringioni.

After five years he'd be scraping to make a decent living like all the other
guys in the retail side of the industry.

Yeah ... Ron Kiefel is really hurting for cash ...

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On 11/15/2004 10:47 AM, in article
[email hidden], "B. Lafferty"

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Quoted message said:

B. Lafferty said:

Tyler, this is not the best way to build good will for the bike shop

you'll

Quoted message said:

be opening in Marblehead.

Dumbass -

lol.

Actually, I'll bet his bike shop would do OK. There's that diehard
contingent that believes that he's innocent because he's a nice guy.
K. Gringioni.

After five years he'd be scraping to make a decent living like all the other
guys in the retail side of the industry.

Yeah ... Ron Kiefel is really hurting for cash ...

--
Steven L. Sheffield
stevens at veloworks dot com
veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net
bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est
ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
double-yew double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [foreword] slash

On 11/15/2004 10:47 AM, in article
[email hidden], "B. Lafferty"

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B. Lafferty said:

Tyler, this is not the best way to build good will for the bike shop

you'll

Quoted message said:

be opening in Marblehead.

Dumbass -

lol.

Actually, I'll bet his bike shop would do OK. There's that diehard
contingent that believes that he's innocent because he's a nice guy.
K. Gringioni.

After five years he'd be scraping to make a decent living like all the other
guys in the retail side of the industry.

Yeah ... Ron Kiefel is really hurting for cash ...

--
Steven L. Sheffield
stevens at veloworks dot com
veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net
bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est
ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
double-yew double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [foreword] slash

On 11/15/2004 10:47 AM, in article
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"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

B. Lafferty said:

Tyler, this is not the best way to build good will for the bike shop

you'll

Quoted message said:

be opening in Marblehead.

Dumbass -

lol.

Actually, I'll bet his bike shop would do OK. There's that diehard
contingent that believes that he's innocent because he's a nice guy.
K. Gringioni.

After five years he'd be scraping to make a decent living like all the other
guys in the retail side of the industry.

Yeah ... Ron Kiefel is really hurting for cash ...

--
Steven L. Sheffield
stevens at veloworks dot com
veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net
bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est
ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
double-yew double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [foreword] slash

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On 11/15/2004 10:47 AM, in article
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B. Lafferty wrote:
>
> Tyler, this is not the best way to build good will for the bike shop
you'll
> be opening in Marblehead.

Dumbass -

lol.

Actually, I'll bet his bike shop would do OK. There's that diehard
contingent that believes that he's innocent because he's a nice guy.
K. Gringioni.

After five years he'd be scraping to make a decent living like all the
other
guys in the retail side of the industry.

Yeah ... Ron Kiefel is really hurting for cash ...

There are exceptions. Keifel is in a very good location and the shop has
been there for a long time. He father started it, IIRC. Most specialty
bicycle retailers are not getting rich quick. It's truly a labor of love.

Alex Rodriguez said:

If the test is bad, who knows what it is detecting? Could be there is
something different in the blood of those that got positives.
-------------
Alex

Technically, he did not fail 3 out of 3, he failed two out of four. His test at Athens was originally ruled NEGATIVE by the Lab Director but annotated as "suspicious" of a blood transfusion.

The ruling was changed to positive AFTER WADA got involved.