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  1. My tourer currently has fairly big tyres, nice and comfy but after a
    chat with the sales droid in Aberdeen the other day I bought some much
    smaller tyres. It looks like these Continental Ultra Sports are more
    suited to me, what I REALLY needed was the Dawes Audax they had in stock
    but I stupidly forgot to bring 1300 quid with me! :-)

    Anyway, when I fit these tyres to my rims there's always a low point.
    The last section to be fitted is always about 2-3mm lower than the rest
    of the tyre causing it to be well and truly out of round. The bike shop
    assure me these tyres are correct for my wheels, but I just don't get
    it.

    I'm fairly sure my tourer must have a different wheel from a racer, and
    it may be more than just a width issue?

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  2. Quoted message said:

    smaller tyres. It looks like these Continental Ultra Sports are more
    suited to me, (snip)> Anyway, when I fit these tyres to my rims there's


    always a low point.

    Quoted message said:

    The last section to be fitted is always about 2-3mm lower than the rest
    of the tyre causing it to be well and truly out of round. The bike shop
    assure me these tyres are correct for my wheels, but I just don't get
    it.

    I'm fairly sure my tourer must have a different wheel from a racer, and
    it may be more than just a width issue?

    I have had this problem with Continentals in the past. They won't seat


    right and the poor seating causes blowouts. It was a big problem with the
    original Top Tourers which also were notorious for sidewall blowouts not
    caused by poor seating.

    I never use Continental now for this reason.

    Cliff

  3. John Burns said:

    My tourer currently has fairly big tyres, nice and comfy but after a
    chat with the sales droid in Aberdeen the other day I bought some much
    smaller tyres. It looks like these Continental Ultra Sports are more
    suited to me

    Why? How?

    I've just fitted /wider/ tyres to my old tourer: best thing I've done to
    it.

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway, when I fit these tyres to my rims there's always a low point.
    The last section to be fitted is always about 2-3mm lower than the
    rest of the tyre causing it to be well and truly out of round. The
    bike shop assure me these tyres are correct for my wheels, but I just
    don't get it.

    I'm fairly sure my tourer must have a different wheel from a racer,
    and it may be more than just a width issue?

    I've had the same problem with various tyres on various rims. It must be
    partly due to a rim and tyre diameter mismatch (ie. one or both isn't
    quite what it's supposed to be) but there may be a factor X which is a
    mystery to me, too. Sometimes the same tyre can be worse on one rim than
    another of the same model, even though both appear to be true. Beats me!
    You might just have to use a different tyre.

    But try deflating and pushing the sunken section of tyre up and the rest
    down. Don't judge the fitting until it's fully inflated--the air pressure
    rounds it out and makes it fit better; try over-inflating and deflating
    and re-inflating a couple of times. Also check rim tape is not
    interfering at one spot.

    Tyre doesn't have to be perfectly round, though: it takes quite a big bump
    or dip to notice while riding.

    ~PB

  4. "John Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    My tourer currently has fairly big tyres, nice and comfy but after a
    chat with the sales droid in Aberdeen the other day I bought some much
    smaller tyres. It looks like these Continental Ultra Sports are more
    suited to me, what I REALLY needed was the Dawes Audax they had in stock
    but I stupidly forgot to bring 1300 quid with me! :-)

    Anyway, when I fit these tyres to my rims there's always a low point.
    The last section to be fitted is always about 2-3mm lower than the rest
    of the tyre causing it to be well and truly out of round. The bike shop
    assure me these tyres are correct for my wheels, but I just don't get
    it.

    I'm fairly sure my tourer must have a different wheel from a racer, and
    it may be more than just a width issue?

    --
    Who needs a life when you've got Unix? :-)
    Email: [email hidden], John G.Burns B.Eng, Bonny Scotland
    Web : http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk - The Ultimate BMW Homepage!
    Need Sun or HP Unix kit? http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk/unix.html

    Hiya John,

    If your looking for ultimate driving, you might try an Audi Quattro Turbo.
    BMW's are no match.

    Also, not to sound pedantic -- Packard is spelt wrong on your website.
    You've got it as Packerd.

    I agree with you on the unix/linux front though.

    Cheers,

    Alan

  5. Quoted message said:

    If your looking for ultimate driving, you might try an Audi Quattro Turbo.
    BMW's are no match.

    Then you'd get on well with a friend of mine. He has a gorgeous '82
    Quattro rally car in factory works colours and a bare metal resprayed
    635CSi :-) Sadly his two wheeled conveyance uses an engine rather than
    pedal power. Ironic as he's a qualified Raleigh mechanic from a former
    job!

    Quoted message said:

    Also, not to sound pedantic -- Packard is spelt wrong on your website.
    You've got it as Packerd.

    I will fix it! Thanks.

    Quoted message said:

    I agree with you on the unix/linux front though.

    --
    Who needs a life when you've got Unix? :-)
    Email: [email hidden], John G.Burns B.Eng, Bonny Scotland
    Web : http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk - The Ultimate BMW Homepage!
    Need Sun or HP Unix kit? http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk/unix.html


  6. Quoted message said:


    Anyway, when I fit these tyres to my rims there's always a low point.
    The last section to be fitted is always about 2-3mm lower than the rest
    of the tyre causing it to be well and truly out of round. The bike shop
    assure me these tyres are correct for my wheels, but I just don't get
    it.

    I bought a Schwalbe City Jet Tyre Set from wiggle and one of the tyres
    has the same problem. Only on the fourth attempt could I get it to sit
    nicely in the wheel and managed it by constantly tugging at it and
    flexing it back and forth while only very slightly inflated. I emailed
    Wiggle to have a moan between the second and third attempt and got
    back this reply;

    Quoted message said:

    We have not had this problem with any others of this brand. It may
    be just the way it sits in your rim. This has happened to me in the past
    you get a £30+ kevlar beaded tyre and no matter how many times you
    take it on and off, it just doesn't seat itself level.

    I noticed however that when you hold the bare tyre up you can see the
    shape isn't totally symmetrical but instead slightly mis-shaped with
    regard the side walls not being totally even with the opposite side .
    I would say as much as 20% of the circumference is like this. You can
    bend it back momentarily to cure it so its more likely the tyre has
    been squashed or poorly stored rather than made badly at the factory.

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