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  1. "The journalist came to the UCI wanting to write a positive story about
    Armstrong," Verbruggen told Dutch paper Telegraaf. "For this, he wanted
    insight in his medical dossier. Armstrong and the UCI agreed to this after
    long discussions. He couldn't find anything, as they were all blank.
    Armstrong never used any medications.

    "The journalist then asked if he could have a copy for his story, and abused
    the code number on it. He was in possession of the other five already, but
    he didn't say anything about it, and L'Equipe appeared on the newsstands
    with six forms on it. That's how they draw their conclusions.

    From CyclingNews

    A question--How do you abuse a code number. Use an eraser on it? Where did
    he get the other five and how does Hein know he had the other five when he
    came to the UCI?

  2. B. Lafferty said:

    "The journalist came to the UCI wanting to write a positive story about
    Armstrong," Verbruggen told Dutch paper Telegraaf. "For this, he wanted
    insight in his medical dossier. Armstrong and the UCI agreed to this after
    long discussions. He couldn't find anything, as they were all blank.
    Armstrong never used any medications.

    "The journalist then asked if he could have a copy for his story, and abused
    the code number on it. He was in possession of the other five already, but
    he didn't say anything about it, and L'Equipe appeared on the newsstands
    with six forms on it. That's how they draw their conclusions.

    From CyclingNews

    A question--How do you abuse a code number. Use an eraser on it? Where did
    he get the other five and how does Hein know he had the other five when he
    came to the UCI?

    Aren't you going to give LANCE credit for opening his medical
    records like you've been asking him to?

  3. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    B. Lafferty said:

    "The journalist came to the UCI wanting to write a positive story about
    Armstrong," Verbruggen told Dutch paper Telegraaf. "For this, he wanted
    insight in his medical dossier. Armstrong and the UCI agreed to this
    after
    long discussions. He couldn't find anything, as they were all blank.
    Armstrong never used any medications.

    "The journalist then asked if he could have a copy for his story, and
    abused
    the code number on it. He was in possession of the other five already,
    but
    he didn't say anything about it, and L'Equipe appeared on the newsstands
    with six forms on it. That's how they draw their conclusions.

    From CyclingNews

    A question--How do you abuse a code number. Use an eraser on it? Where
    did
    he get the other five and how does Hein know he had the other five when
    he
    came to the UCI?

    Aren't you going to give LANCE credit for opening his medical
    records like you've been asking him to?

    Let's be clear on this. Armstrong has not opened his medical records to the
    media as he said he would. The records the UCI have that were shown to
    L'Equipe are for any drugs he was taking under prescription that he might
    test positive for.

  4. Regardless, even if Armstrong is nailed to the wall (dead to rights) on
    this, guys like Papai will still just want to shoot the messenger for
    not leaving well enough alone. People do not want to see this hero
    fall.

    It's like telling your best friend that his wife is cheating on him.
    They'll end up in each others arms and you'll have one less friend.

  5. B. Lafferty said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote :

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Aren't you going to give LANCE credit for opening his medical
    records like you've been asking him to?

    Let's be clear on this. Armstrong has not opened his medical records to the
    media as he said he would. The records the UCI have that were shown to
    L'Equipe are for any drugs he was taking under prescription that he might
    test positive for.

    The more you post about Armstrong, the madder you get and
    the less able you are to take anything with a sense of humor.
    Everyone's gotta be with you or against you.

    You're on a fishing expedition and you're throwing back
    caught fish because they're not big enough.

  6. B. Lafferty said:

    "The journalist came to the UCI wanting to write a positive story about
    Armstrong," Verbruggen told Dutch paper Telegraaf. "For this, he wanted
    insight in his medical dossier. Armstrong and the UCI agreed to this after
    long discussions. He couldn't find anything, as they were all blank.
    Armstrong never used any medications.

    What happened to the 'crotch cream' permission slip?

  7. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    B. Lafferty said:

    "The journalist came to the UCI wanting to write a positive story about
    Armstrong," Verbruggen told Dutch paper Telegraaf. "For this, he wanted
    insight in his medical dossier. Armstrong and the UCI agreed to this after
    long discussions. He couldn't find anything, as they were all blank.
    Armstrong never used any medications.

    "The journalist then asked if he could have a copy for his story, and abused
    the code number on it. He was in possession of the other five already, but
    he didn't say anything about it, and L'Equipe appeared on the newsstands
    with six forms on it. That's how they draw their conclusions.

    From CyclingNews

    A question--How do you abuse a code number. Use an eraser on it? Where did
    he get the other five and how does Hein know he had the other five when he
    came to the UCI?

    Here is one answer.
    <http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2005/sep05/sep
    16news2>

    Armstrong's attorney Levinstein, who has extensive
    experience representing athletes, told Cyclingnews, "There
    was no reason for the lab to put the [medical control]
    numbers on the samples [from the 1999 Tour], instead of
    anonymous numbers, unless you are going to match the
    numbers [with the Proces Verbal medical control forms].
    The French lab was responsible for those numbers being on
    the forms. The lab intentionally ignored medical control
    protocols to put the numbers on and the only reason they
    would do such a study with numbers on it is if someone
    told them to do so and were out to get someone in
    particular by matching those numbers."

    --
    Michael Press

  8. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted post said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote :

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Aren't you going to give LANCE credit for opening his medical
    records like you've been asking him to?

    Let's be clear on this. Armstrong has not opened his medical records to the
    media as he said he would. The records the UCI have that were shown to
    L'Equipe are for any drugs he was taking under prescription that he might
    test positive for.

    The more you post about Armstrong, the madder you get and
    the less able you are to take anything with a sense of humor.
    Everyone's gotta be with you or against you.

    Actually he does not want anyone with him. Everyone is
    against him. Folks have responded positively to him, but
    he has never acknowledged it. He responds defensively to
    everything, then counter-attacks.

    Quoted message said:


    You're on a fishing expedition and you're throwing back
    caught fish because they're not big enough.

    --
    Michael Press

  9. Quoted message said:

    The more you post about Armstrong, the madder you get and
    the less able you are to take anything with a sense of humor.
    Everyone's gotta be with you or against you.

    You're on a fishing expedition and you're throwing back
    caught fish because they're not big enough.

    Brian had the illusion that if a LANCE doping story broke everyone would
    come 'round to viewing Armstrong as he does. Now he's getting desperate
    cuz his illusion is dying and it's like he's lost a child.

  10. Dans le message de
    news:[email hidden],
    B. Lafferty <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

    Quoted message said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    B. Lafferty said:

    "The journalist came to the UCI wanting to write a positive story
    about Armstrong," Verbruggen told Dutch paper Telegraaf. "For this,
    he wanted insight in his medical dossier. Armstrong and the UCI
    agreed to this after
    long discussions. He couldn't find anything, as they were all blank.
    Armstrong never used any medications.

    "The journalist then asked if he could have a copy for his story,
    and abused
    the code number on it. He was in possession of the other five
    already, but
    he didn't say anything about it, and L'Equipe appeared on the
    newsstands with six forms on it. That's how they draw their
    conclusions. From CyclingNews

    A question--How do you abuse a code number. Use an eraser on it? Where
    did
    he get the other five and how does Hein know he had the other five
    when he
    came to the UCI?

    Aren't you going to give LANCE credit for opening his medical
    records like you've been asking him to?

    Let's be clear on this. Armstrong has not opened his medical records
    to the media as he said he would. The records the UCI have that were
    shown to L'Equipe are for any drugs he was taking under prescription
    that he might test positive for.

    You could have a little grace, Brian, and admit it, even if lamely. This
    unnecessary reply gives you away. You plan on having postscript conditions
    to everything. Very bad form.

  11. Robert Chung said:

    [email hidden] wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You're on a fishing expedition and you're throwing back
    caught fish because they're not big enough.

    Brian had the illusion that if a LANCE doping story broke everyone would
    come 'round to viewing Armstrong as he does. Now he's getting desperate
    cuz his illusion is dying and it's like he's lost a child.

    How strange.

  12. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    B. Lafferty said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote :

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Aren't you going to give LANCE credit for opening his medical
    records like you've been asking him to?

    Let's be clear on this. Armstrong has not opened his medical records to
    the
    media as he said he would. The records the UCI have that were shown to
    L'Equipe are for any drugs he was taking under prescription that he might
    test positive for.

    The more you post about Armstrong, the madder you get and
    the less able you are to take anything with a sense of humor.
    Everyone's gotta be with you or against you.

    Sorry to point out that you were incorrect about Armstrong opening his
    medical files. Maybe SCA will give us appek during their litigation.

    Quoted message said:


    You're on a fishing expedition and you're throwing back
    caught fish because they're not big enough.

    I though Armstrong was the biggest fish. Nobody's throwing him back. He
    being filleted and will soon be sau·téed.

  13. B. Lafferty said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    The more you post about Armstrong, the madder you get and
    the less able you are to take anything with a sense of humor.
    Everyone's gotta be with you or against you.

    Sorry to point out that you were incorrect about Armstrong opening his
    medical files. Maybe SCA will give us appek during their litigation.

    Quoted message said:


    You're on a fishing expedition and you're throwing back
    caught fish because they're not big enough.

    I though Armstrong was the biggest fish. Nobody's throwing him back. He
    being filleted and will soon be sau·téed.

    Interesting. The typos and other sloppiness. You're usually not that
    careless. You're usually bitter, but not careless. When a bitter
    person is occasionally careless it is often a sign of a drinking
    problem. You feeling okay? Lance's actions, anyone else's action,
    don't reflect on you. Don't take this stuff personally - it's just a
    newsgroup.

    R

  14. Quoted message said:
    Robert Chung said:

    [email hidden] wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You're on a fishing expedition and you're throwing back
    caught fish because they're not big enough.

    Brian had the illusion that if a LANCE doping story broke everyone
    would come 'round to viewing Armstrong as he does. Now he's getting
    desperate cuz his illusion is dying and it's like he's lost a child.

    How strange.

    Perhaps he was expecting garlands.

  15. Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote :

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Aren't you going to give LANCE credit for opening his medical
    records like you've been asking him to?

    Let's be clear on this. Armstrong has not opened his medical records to the
    media as he said he would. The records the UCI have that were shown to
    L'Equipe are for any drugs he was taking under prescription that he might
    test positive for.

    The more you post about Armstrong, the madder you get and
    the less able you are to take anything with a sense of humor.
    Everyone's gotta be with you or against you.

    You're on a fishing expedition and you're throwing back
    caught fish because they're not big enough.

    Dear bjw;
    Then, of course, there is the rather salient point that no
    drug/elixir/potion exists on the face of the Mirth which would enable an
    individual to perform in the manner in which LA has performed. This
    isn't weight-lifting, shot-putting or 'Murcan Football. Cycling
    requires sets of skills that can't be injected or swallowed.
    (personally, I don't give an airborne goddam if he shot heroin
    between Stages; he's still a Genius);
    jmt

    Quoted message said:
  16. jmt said:

    no drug/elixir/potion exists on the face of the Mirth which would enable
    an individual to perform in the manner in which LA has performed. This
    isn't weight-lifting, shot-putting or 'Murcan Football.

    What steroids are to those sports, orange juice is to cycling. I mean EPO.

    --
    E. Dronkert

  17. B. Lafferty said:

    I though Armstrong was the biggest fish. Nobody's throwing him back. He
    being filleted and will soon be sau·téed.

    An interesting strategy - combine the rbr obsession with food with your
    obsession with LANCE. Are you considering French or Californian wine to go
    with the main course ?

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Donald Munro said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    I though Armstrong was the biggest fish. Nobody's throwing him back. He
    being filleted and will soon be sau·téed.

    An interesting strategy - combine the rbr obsession with food with your
    obsession with LANCE. Are you considering French or Californian wine to go
    with the main course ?

    Vinegar.

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    Butter is love.

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  19. "Donald Munro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    I though Armstrong was the biggest fish. Nobody's throwing him back. He
    being filleted and will soon be sau·téed.

    An interesting strategy - combine the rbr obsession with food with your
    obsession with LANCE. Are you considering French or Californian wine to go
    with the main course ?


    What do you have against Australians?

  20. Howard Kveck said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    Donald Munro <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    I though Armstrong was the biggest fish. Nobody's throwing him back. He
    being filleted and will soon be sau?t?ed.

    An interesting strategy - combine the rbr obsession with food with your
    obsession with LANCE. Are you considering French or Californian wine to go
    with the main course ?

    Quoted message said:

    Vinegar.

    Urine.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

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