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  1. So it was the end of a good, long day out unicycling in Colchester (on
    Saturday) and we went to the park to find a few more spots (that's me,
    Mark, Jack, Jamie and Kieron for the benefit of those who may have seen
    them in the videos) to finish the day.
    We rode in, and sat down by some steps (the ones circled in the
    attached picture) perfectly innocently when 5 minutes later after a
    quick chat; two PCSOs (police communicty support officers (basicly
    wanabe police officers fighting fake, pointless ''antisocial'' crimes))
    and the park warden approached us, one of them saying ''Ok, it's the
    second time we've seen you today so we're going to take your details''
    - but were even doing anything at the time? How could we be antisocial
    if there was noone but us and them there? Were we offending anyone by
    sitting down with unicycles on the floor?
    😠
    Out came the slips and the questions began. First it was ''what is your
    name?'', and ''age?, DOB?'' - that was perhaps fair enough. Then they
    began ''How tall are you?'', ''Parents names?'', Address, Hair colour
    and style, what clothes and shoes we were wearing, where we had scars
    or tattoos, what school we went to, our ethnic orign... and they went
    on, arguing that the onl place we were allowed to ride them was at a
    skate park, not on the road as they don't have lights... (I knew they
    were wrong..), and apprently not on the paths as they were bicycles. I
    assured them that I had seen more than 20 other people on bikes (and 3
    young boys in fact on unicycles, but I didn't say that), that day in
    the park that had not been stopped. I also made sure they knew that it
    was rude of them to target us as we were the only ones left in the park
    and they had nothing better to do.
    Was that really necessary? Or was it just that little bit intrusive? We
    had done nothing but unicycle (quite the opposite of antisocial IMO),
    in a -public park!-
    Well, angered and frustrated (particularly me - the others just took
    the authorititiveness), we were asked to leave the park pushing our
    ''bicycles''.
    We did get to keep a copy of this slips, and once I scan it in you can
    see it. One section at the bottom said ''If ASB state
    details/description........-unicycling in park-...........'' WTF?!
    What do you make of this?

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  2. I hate those people, basicly if you see them coming ride on and avode
    them because they wont chase you down or do anything (well they
    shouldnt). When I have been riding with my brother (on his bike) we
    just keep a look out. We have seen other people riding trials bikes
    been given fines of £50.

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  3. I hate community support officers!
    They are just busybody's that have a chip on their should because they
    couldn't make it into the real police force! I have been stopped
    several times before by them, everytime they have told me im "Not
    supposed to be riding that thing here".
    The truth is they can't arrest you, the best they can do is call a
    proper policeman.

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  4. Well people should be pleased to know that I did not just stand there
    and take all of this. I made sure to tell them after every question
    that It was unnecessary for me to tell them but apparently I was
    ''required by law'' to answer them. I muttered about how they did not
    get paid, which didnt go down too well. I argued about how they are not
    bicycles 😠 She said to me ''so, where do you get these things?'' -
    i replied ''well, are you thinking of learning?'' hehe :p
    She also asked ''so, can you get them in bike shops? - I replied ''no,
    they are not bikes!'' (of course I know that you can in fact get them
    in bike shops, but I was being cocky)

    My most shameful, favourite, and childish was just after we had been
    discussing the fact that they were definitely NOT bikes. She said
    ''well, we -could- stand here all night and debate about this but...''
    I said: ''Yeh, we could have a mass-debate!'' Neither of the scum were
    best pleased, though my deepest apologies about my childish pun got me
    out of that one!

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  5. I was about to refer you to this thread where there's a legal definition
    of a bicycle, which could be handy for you... but it looks like you've
    already read it, and have had a run in with these PCSOs before (Are
    they the same ones?)

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  6. semach.the.monkey said:

    I was about to refer you to this thread where there's a legal definition
    of a bicycle, which could be handy for you... but it looks like you've
    already read it, and have had a run in with these PCSOs before (Are
    they the same ones?)

    STM

    I assumed the laws were different in America anyway, and I have seen it
    if it's the one Terry wrote. Is there another one?

    I had not seen -them together- before, but one of the PCSOs had told us
    to dismount our ''bicycles'' when we were riding down a more or less
    deserted street, on the direct other side of town, earlier that day.

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  7. I always use the one: Can you ride a bike? When the person answers:
    Sure.
    You then say: Well, can you ride this? When they answer no: You say:
    Then by simple logic it is not a bike.

    By the way, Not to many bike stores actually do carry unicycles.

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  8. But they do basic unis... it's besides the point anyway 😄

    Thats a good point about logic too.

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  9. Well, arguing with underpaid/unpaid security people always makes
    everybody feel better.

    jamessd said:

    we went to the park to find a few more spots ... to finish the day.

    So you were in the park to do what they kicked you out for; you just
    hadn't done it yet? That wouldn't be cool, but they said it was the
    second time that day they'd seen you. You didn't mention anything about
    that. Did they see you riding in the park or something?

    I can't comment on UK law, but if the same scenario happened in the US
    you could refuse to answer any questions and ask for a "real cop."
    Would that be better? :p

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  10. johnfoss said:

    Well, arguing with underpaid/unpaid security people always makes
    everybody feel better.
    -
    So you were in the park to do what they kicked you out for; you just
    hadn't done it yet? -That wouldn't be cool, but they said it was the
    second time that day they'd seen you. *You didn't mention anything
    about that. Did they see you riding in the park or something?
    *
    I can't comment on UK law, but if the same scenario happened in the US
    you could refuse to answer any questions and ask for a "real cop."
    Would that be better? :p

    -yeh, we had only just got there-
    *One of the PCSOs in the park had seen us earlier that day riding down
    a street, and asked us to dismount - and that was it :eek: *

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  11. jamessd said:

    *One of the PCSOs in the park had seen us earlier that day riding down a
    street, and asked us to dismount - and that was it :eek: *

    Gotcha. How lame of them.

    I guess if you want to annoy them at this point, get some lights for
    the unicycles! 🙂

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  12. jamessd said:

    I assumed the laws were different in America anyway, and I have seen it
    if it's the one Terry wrote. Is there another one?

    I had not seen -them together- before, but one of the PCSOs had told us
    to dismount our ''bicycles'' when we were riding down a more or less
    deserted street, on the direct other side of town, earlier that day.

    Sorry... I was a being a muppet! I wrote 'this thread' and intended to
    link to it... but didn't.

    I'll try again; 'this thread' (http://tinyurl.com/2h9ef8)

    There, is that better 😄

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  13. something kinda similer happened to me yesterday.

    i was unicycling with 2 friends in a parking lot owned by one of the
    guys grandparents. Apperantly some kids had been skateboarding and
    using pallets to mess up peoples cars recently at night. So my friends
    and I find the pallets and begin to play on them when a cop pulls up.
    He gets out and takes our names addresses and phone #'s. When we ask
    why he said that people complained about us. We asked why and he told
    us about the vandalism of cars. My friend goes on to explain that his
    grandparents own the property we are riding on. This was the 1st time
    that we had rode in this place. The cop then was like "well im going
    to put 2 and 2 together and say you guys are responsible for the
    vandalism, cause you are here now" so we got kicked out and maybe in
    legal trouble.

    EDIT: We were riding at 4 in the afternoon, it was still light out, and
    we were in a very public place. There was nothing shady about us
    riding there at all!

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  14. ASBO's are really lame, I have been reading articles about them lately
    and they seem rather intrusive. They seem like a way that law
    enforcement can basically be complete jerks without any issues. I was
    reading that a pretty large majority of people have gotten them and
    that sais to me that they really can't be that antisocial. It seems to
    me more of a way for law enforcement to compile a database of peoples
    personal information. To me pretty much every little detail of this
    whole ASBO thing seems to be really really (I hate this word but it
    works here and I can't think of a better one) unconstitutional. I'm
    sure there are a group of lawyers that are trying to fight it, you just
    need to find them and get onboard.

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  15. semach.the.monkey said:

    Sorry... I was a being a muppet! I wrote 'this thread' and intended to
    link to it... but didn't.

    I'll try again; 'this thread' (http://tinyurl.com/2h9ef8)

    There, is that better 😄

    Ah yes, I remember that one now.

    That sounds damn unlucky detroit. The law is just stupid... or maybe
    it's just the enforcers...

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  16. Oh and I forgot to mention in case, when I said ''If ASB'', ASB stands
    for antisocial behaviour. That's why I said it's antisocial :p

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  17. Once me and a buddy were just sitting down on a bench in a plaza and a
    guy came up to us and said "Get out of the plaza" and we just looked at
    him and said nothing and then pushed us on our way...LOL

    Another time in the same plaza the same guy. I was just riding through
    and he said "Get out of the plaza" and im like what because he had a
    funny voice...and he said it again "get out of the plaza" and im just
    like "What?" and he is like GET OUT OF THE PLAZA! And im like ohhhh
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  18. Dam. sorry Bout that, me and copple of mates been doing drugs and
    nickin' stuff on our unis. They must have mistaken you guys for us.
    🙄 hehe

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  19. Your lack of cooperation with (pseudo) law enforcement authority only
    emboldens the terrorists. You should be ashamed.

    :-)

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  20. tomkarches said:

    Your lack of cooperation with (pseudo) law enforcement authority only
    emboldens the terrorists. You should be ashamed.

    :-)

    I think you are confusing a uni-cyclist with the 'uni-bomber'
    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Kaczynski) 😉

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