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  1. On my Trek 1000 I've worn down the chain and the rear cassette and am ready
    to replace that. Though I'd checked the chain for stretch a couple months
    ago it seemed to suddenly go bad and I was experiencing some 'slack' on the
    downstroke of the right foot (or so the wrench tells me). He checked it
    again yesterday and said I needed a new chain. He's going to replace the
    big ring in the front since that's the one I ride in mostly, and maybe
    salvage the rear cassette, but is there an advantage to getting a new one
    say the next step up?

    It's currently, I think, Sora components. Can I just have the shop put in
    Tiagra or is there more to it than that? The deraileur seems to be working
    fine. Bike is less than a year old. I'm getting the der cables replaced and
    that's about it. I asked about repacking the BB, but he said not necessary.
    I rarely ride in the rain but once in a while I get caught out. Any other
    one year upgrade tips I should check on since the bike is in the shop? Just
    got new tires.

    Thanks
    Hoffer

  2. On my Trek 1000 I've worn down the chain and the rear cassette and am ready
    to replace that. Though I'd checked the chain for stretch a couple months
    ago it seemed to suddenly go bad and I was experiencing some 'slack' on the
    downstroke of the right foot (or so the wrench tells me). He checked it
    again yesterday and said I needed a new chain. He's going to replace the
    big ring in the front since that's the one I ride in mostly, and maybe
    salvage the rear cassette, but is there an advantage to getting a new one
    say the next step up?

    It's currently, I think, Sora components. Can I just have the shop put in
    Tiagra or is there more to it than that? The deraileur seems to be working
    fine. Bike is less than a year old. I'm getting the der cables replaced and
    that's about it. I asked about repacking the BB, but he said not necessary.
    I rarely ride in the rain but once in a while I get caught out. Any other
    one year upgrade tips I should check on since the bike is in the shop? Just
    got new tires.

    Thanks
    Hoffer

  3. On my Trek 1000 I've worn down the chain and the rear cassette and am ready
    to replace that. Though I'd checked the chain for stretch a couple months
    ago it seemed to suddenly go bad and I was experiencing some 'slack' on the
    downstroke of the right foot (or so the wrench tells me). He checked it
    again yesterday and said I needed a new chain. He's going to replace the
    big ring in the front since that's the one I ride in mostly, and maybe
    salvage the rear cassette, but is there an advantage to getting a new one
    say the next step up?

    It's currently, I think, Sora components. Can I just have the shop put in
    Tiagra or is there more to it than that? The deraileur seems to be working
    fine. Bike is less than a year old. I'm getting the der cables replaced and
    that's about it. I asked about repacking the BB, but he said not necessary.
    I rarely ride in the rain but once in a while I get caught out. Any other
    one year upgrade tips I should check on since the bike is in the shop? Just
    got new tires.

    Thanks
    Hoffer

  4. Hoffer said:

    On my Trek 1000 I've worn down the chain and the rear cassette and am ready to replace that. Though I'd checked the chain for stretch a couple months ago it seemed to suddenly go bad and I was experiencing some 'slack' on the downstroke of the right foot (or so the wrench tells me).

    "Slack on the downstroke?" Sounds like Malarkey to me. Is the chain
    skipping?

    Quoted message said:

    He checked it again yesterday and said I needed a new chain. He's going to replace the big ring in the front since that's the one I ride in mostly,

    If the bike is less than a year old, you shouldn't need a new
    chainring.

    Quoted message said:

    It's [cassette] currently, I think, Sora components. Can I just have the shop put in Tiagra or is there more to it than that?

    As long as it's the same number of cogs. But I would start with just
    replacing the chain.

    What exactly is the problem you're experiencing? You say the bike is
    less than a year old. How many miles are on it?

    Art Harris

  5. Hoffer said:

    On my Trek 1000 I've worn down the chain and the rear cassette and am ready to replace that. Though I'd checked the chain for stretch a couple months ago it seemed to suddenly go bad and I was experiencing some 'slack' on the downstroke of the right foot (or so the wrench tells me).

    "Slack on the downstroke?" Sounds like Malarkey to me. Is the chain
    skipping?

    Quoted message said:

    He checked it again yesterday and said I needed a new chain. He's going to replace the big ring in the front since that's the one I ride in mostly,

    If the bike is less than a year old, you shouldn't need a new
    chainring.

    Quoted message said:

    It's [cassette] currently, I think, Sora components. Can I just have the shop put in Tiagra or is there more to it than that?

    As long as it's the same number of cogs. But I would start with just
    replacing the chain.

    What exactly is the problem you're experiencing? You say the bike is
    less than a year old. How many miles are on it?

    Art Harris

  6. Hoffer said:

    On my Trek 1000 I've worn down the chain and the rear cassette and am ready to replace that. Though I'd checked the chain for stretch a couple months ago it seemed to suddenly go bad and I was experiencing some 'slack' on the downstroke of the right foot (or so the wrench tells me).

    "Slack on the downstroke?" Sounds like Malarkey to me. Is the chain
    skipping?

    Quoted message said:

    He checked it again yesterday and said I needed a new chain. He's going to replace the big ring in the front since that's the one I ride in mostly,

    If the bike is less than a year old, you shouldn't need a new
    chainring.

    Quoted message said:

    It's [cassette] currently, I think, Sora components. Can I just have the shop put in Tiagra or is there more to it than that?

    As long as it's the same number of cogs. But I would start with just
    replacing the chain.

    What exactly is the problem you're experiencing? You say the bike is
    less than a year old. How many miles are on it?

    Art Harris

  7. Art Harris said:
    Hoffer said:

    On my Trek 1000 I've worn down the chain and the rear cassette and am ready to replace that.
    Though I'd checked the chain for stretch a couple months ago it seemed to suddenly go bad
    and I was experiencing some 'slack' on the downstroke of the right foot (or so the wrench tells me).

    "Slack on the downstroke?" Sounds like Malarkey to me. Is the chain
    skipping?

    Could be. It just started happening about a week ago. A 'funny feeling' in
    the right pedal stroke as though the chain drive is not tight and it plays
    'catchup' for a an inch.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    He checked it again yesterday and said I needed a new chain. He's going to replace the big ring
    in the front since that's the one I ride in mostly,

    If the bike is less than a year old, you shouldn't need a new chainring.

    OK, he said if I used the whole rear cassette then it might be OK. If I
    tended to use one or two that when the chain aged and got stretched it
    tended to make points on the ring most in use and this would cause sloppy
    shifting (?).

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Its [cassette] currently, I think, Sora components. Can I just have the shop put in Tiagra or is there more to it than that?

    As long as it's the same number of cogs. But I would start with just
    replacing the chain.

    But would a 'better' component be noticeable? He didn't even mention which
    chain to get.

    Quoted message said:

    What exactly is the problem you're experiencing? You say the bike is
    less than a year old. How many miles are on it?

    ~2K miles. 9 months old.

    The wrench said I needed to get the deraileur cables replaced since it
    wasn't operating the front der smoothly and he couldn't get it adjusted
    anymore. I keep the bike in the house and don't ride it in the pouring
    rain. Have been caught out a couple times. I don't do anything other than
    oil the chain for maintenence at this point.

    He said he replaced his cables every 6-8 months. So I figured 'fall tune
    up' as long as the bike is in the shop. He put the bike up on the rack and
    immediately said I needed a new chain. The bike had ridden smoothly until
    last week. I thought bottom bracket something loose? He said chain. It's a
    little catch as the pedal seems to need to catch up to the downward
    pedalling force on one side. But that could be an illusion. Left side seems
    fine. That made me think something loose on the right, because a stretched
    chain would be felt on both sides - a guess I've only been riding a short
    time.

    The guy seems sincere, but I've experienced many different approaches from
    the various wrenches. All seem nice, try to save me money rather than sell
    me stuff I don't need.

    Thanks for the input!
    Hoffer

    Quoted message said:

    Art Harris

  8. Art Harris said:
    Hoffer said:

    On my Trek 1000 I've worn down the chain and the rear cassette and am ready to replace that.
    Though I'd checked the chain for stretch a couple months ago it seemed to suddenly go bad
    and I was experiencing some 'slack' on the downstroke of the right foot (or so the wrench tells me).

    "Slack on the downstroke?" Sounds like Malarkey to me. Is the chain
    skipping?

    Could be. It just started happening about a week ago. A 'funny feeling' in
    the right pedal stroke as though the chain drive is not tight and it plays
    'catchup' for a an inch.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    He checked it again yesterday and said I needed a new chain. He's going to replace the big ring
    in the front since that's the one I ride in mostly,

    If the bike is less than a year old, you shouldn't need a new chainring.

    OK, he said if I used the whole rear cassette then it might be OK. If I
    tended to use one or two that when the chain aged and got stretched it
    tended to make points on the ring most in use and this would cause sloppy
    shifting (?).

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Its [cassette] currently, I think, Sora components. Can I just have the shop put in Tiagra or is there more to it than that?

    As long as it's the same number of cogs. But I would start with just
    replacing the chain.

    But would a 'better' component be noticeable? He didn't even mention which
    chain to get.

    Quoted message said:

    What exactly is the problem you're experiencing? You say the bike is
    less than a year old. How many miles are on it?

    ~2K miles. 9 months old.

    The wrench said I needed to get the deraileur cables replaced since it
    wasn't operating the front der smoothly and he couldn't get it adjusted
    anymore. I keep the bike in the house and don't ride it in the pouring
    rain. Have been caught out a couple times. I don't do anything other than
    oil the chain for maintenence at this point.

    He said he replaced his cables every 6-8 months. So I figured 'fall tune
    up' as long as the bike is in the shop. He put the bike up on the rack and
    immediately said I needed a new chain. The bike had ridden smoothly until
    last week. I thought bottom bracket something loose? He said chain. It's a
    little catch as the pedal seems to need to catch up to the downward
    pedalling force on one side. But that could be an illusion. Left side seems
    fine. That made me think something loose on the right, because a stretched
    chain would be felt on both sides - a guess I've only been riding a short
    time.

    The guy seems sincere, but I've experienced many different approaches from
    the various wrenches. All seem nice, try to save me money rather than sell
    me stuff I don't need.

    Thanks for the input!
    Hoffer

    Quoted message said:

    Art Harris

  9. Art Harris said:
    Hoffer said:

    On my Trek 1000 I've worn down the chain and the rear cassette and am ready to replace that.
    Though I'd checked the chain for stretch a couple months ago it seemed to suddenly go bad
    and I was experiencing some 'slack' on the downstroke of the right foot (or so the wrench tells me).

    "Slack on the downstroke?" Sounds like Malarkey to me. Is the chain
    skipping?

    Could be. It just started happening about a week ago. A 'funny feeling' in
    the right pedal stroke as though the chain drive is not tight and it plays
    'catchup' for a an inch.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    He checked it again yesterday and said I needed a new chain. He's going to replace the big ring
    in the front since that's the one I ride in mostly,

    If the bike is less than a year old, you shouldn't need a new chainring.

    OK, he said if I used the whole rear cassette then it might be OK. If I
    tended to use one or two that when the chain aged and got stretched it
    tended to make points on the ring most in use and this would cause sloppy
    shifting (?).

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Its [cassette] currently, I think, Sora components. Can I just have the shop put in Tiagra or is there more to it than that?

    As long as it's the same number of cogs. But I would start with just
    replacing the chain.

    But would a 'better' component be noticeable? He didn't even mention which
    chain to get.

    Quoted message said:

    What exactly is the problem you're experiencing? You say the bike is
    less than a year old. How many miles are on it?

    ~2K miles. 9 months old.

    The wrench said I needed to get the deraileur cables replaced since it
    wasn't operating the front der smoothly and he couldn't get it adjusted
    anymore. I keep the bike in the house and don't ride it in the pouring
    rain. Have been caught out a couple times. I don't do anything other than
    oil the chain for maintenence at this point.

    He said he replaced his cables every 6-8 months. So I figured 'fall tune
    up' as long as the bike is in the shop. He put the bike up on the rack and
    immediately said I needed a new chain. The bike had ridden smoothly until
    last week. I thought bottom bracket something loose? He said chain. It's a
    little catch as the pedal seems to need to catch up to the downward
    pedalling force on one side. But that could be an illusion. Left side seems
    fine. That made me think something loose on the right, because a stretched
    chain would be felt on both sides - a guess I've only been riding a short
    time.

    The guy seems sincere, but I've experienced many different approaches from
    the various wrenches. All seem nice, try to save me money rather than sell
    me stuff I don't need.

    Thanks for the input!
    Hoffer

    Quoted message said:

    Art Harris

  10. Hoffer said:
    Art Harris said:
    Hoffer said:

    On my Trek 1000 I've worn down the chain and the rear cassette and am ready to replace that.
    Though I'd checked the chain for stretch a couple months ago it seemed to suddenly go bad
    and I was experiencing some 'slack' on the downstroke of the right foot (or so the wrench tells me).

    "Slack on the downstroke?" Sounds like Malarkey to me. Is the chain
    skipping?

    Could be. It just started happening about a week ago. A 'funny feeling' in
    the right pedal stroke as though the chain drive is not tight and it plays
    'catchup' for a an inch.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    He checked it again yesterday and said I needed a new chain. He's going to replace the big ring
    in the front since that's the one I ride in mostly,

    If the bike is less than a year old, you shouldn't need a new chainring.

    OK, he said if I used the whole rear cassette then it might be OK. If I
    tended to use one or two that when the chain aged and got stretched it
    tended to make points on the ring most in use and this would cause sloppy
    shifting (?).

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Its [cassette] currently, I think, Sora components. Can I just have the shop put in Tiagra or is there more to it than that?

    As long as it's the same number of cogs. But I would start with just
    replacing the chain.

    But would a 'better' component be noticeable? He didn't even mention which
    chain to get.

    Quoted message said:

    What exactly is the problem you're experiencing? You say the bike is
    less than a year old. How many miles are on it?

    ~2K miles. 9 months old.

    The wrench said I needed to get the deraileur cables replaced since it
    wasn't operating the front der smoothly and he couldn't get it adjusted
    anymore. I keep the bike in the house and don't ride it in the pouring
    rain. Have been caught out a couple times. I don't do anything other than
    oil the chain for maintenence at this point.

    He said he replaced his cables every 6-8 months. So I figured 'fall tune
    up' as long as the bike is in the shop. He put the bike up on the rack and
    immediately said I needed a new chain. The bike had ridden smoothly until
    last week. I thought bottom bracket something loose? He said chain. It's a
    little catch as the pedal seems to need to catch up to the downward
    pedalling force on one side. But that could be an illusion. Left side seems
    fine. That made me think something loose on the right, because a stretched
    chain would be felt on both sides - a guess I've only been riding a short
    time.

    The guy seems sincere, but I've experienced many different approaches from
    the various wrenches. All seem nice, try to save me money rather than sell
    me stuff I don't need.

    Unless he put a chain length checker on the chain, you cannot just look
    at it and tell the chain is history. Should NOT be in 2000 miles. I
    suspect something else, like perhaps a freehub body
    problem...consistent with the 'catch up' feeling type thing. Also bogus
    is the cables and housing for a bike largely ridden in the dry. Also no
    need for a new big ring...these last long, far longer than 2000 miles.

    Methinks you need a better mechanic, whether this one is sincere or
    not.

    Quoted message said:


    Thanks for the input!
    Hoffer

    Quoted message said:

    Art Harris

  11. Hoffer said:
    Art Harris said:
    Hoffer said:

    On my Trek 1000 I've worn down the chain and the rear cassette and am ready to replace that.
    Though I'd checked the chain for stretch a couple months ago it seemed to suddenly go bad
    and I was experiencing some 'slack' on the downstroke of the right foot (or so the wrench tells me).

    "Slack on the downstroke?" Sounds like Malarkey to me. Is the chain
    skipping?

    Could be. It just started happening about a week ago. A 'funny feeling' in
    the right pedal stroke as though the chain drive is not tight and it plays
    'catchup' for a an inch.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    He checked it again yesterday and said I needed a new chain. He's going to replace the big ring
    in the front since that's the one I ride in mostly,

    If the bike is less than a year old, you shouldn't need a new chainring.

    OK, he said if I used the whole rear cassette then it might be OK. If I
    tended to use one or two that when the chain aged and got stretched it
    tended to make points on the ring most in use and this would cause sloppy
    shifting (?).

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Its [cassette] currently, I think, Sora components. Can I just have the shop put in Tiagra or is there more to it than that?

    As long as it's the same number of cogs. But I would start with just
    replacing the chain.

    But would a 'better' component be noticeable? He didn't even mention which
    chain to get.

    Quoted message said:

    What exactly is the problem you're experiencing? You say the bike is
    less than a year old. How many miles are on it?

    ~2K miles. 9 months old.

    The wrench said I needed to get the deraileur cables replaced since it
    wasn't operating the front der smoothly and he couldn't get it adjusted
    anymore. I keep the bike in the house and don't ride it in the pouring
    rain. Have been caught out a couple times. I don't do anything other than
    oil the chain for maintenence at this point.

    He said he replaced his cables every 6-8 months. So I figured 'fall tune
    up' as long as the bike is in the shop. He put the bike up on the rack and
    immediately said I needed a new chain. The bike had ridden smoothly until
    last week. I thought bottom bracket something loose? He said chain. It's a
    little catch as the pedal seems to need to catch up to the downward
    pedalling force on one side. But that could be an illusion. Left side seems
    fine. That made me think something loose on the right, because a stretched
    chain would be felt on both sides - a guess I've only been riding a short
    time.

    The guy seems sincere, but I've experienced many different approaches from
    the various wrenches. All seem nice, try to save me money rather than sell
    me stuff I don't need.

    Unless he put a chain length checker on the chain, you cannot just look
    at it and tell the chain is history. Should NOT be in 2000 miles. I
    suspect something else, like perhaps a freehub body
    problem...consistent with the 'catch up' feeling type thing. Also bogus
    is the cables and housing for a bike largely ridden in the dry. Also no
    need for a new big ring...these last long, far longer than 2000 miles.

    Methinks you need a better mechanic, whether this one is sincere or
    not.

    Quoted message said:


    Thanks for the input!
    Hoffer

    Quoted message said:

    Art Harris

  12. Hoffer said:
    Art Harris said:
    Hoffer said:

    On my Trek 1000 I've worn down the chain and the rear cassette and am ready to replace that.
    Though I'd checked the chain for stretch a couple months ago it seemed to suddenly go bad
    and I was experiencing some 'slack' on the downstroke of the right foot (or so the wrench tells me).

    "Slack on the downstroke?" Sounds like Malarkey to me. Is the chain
    skipping?

    Could be. It just started happening about a week ago. A 'funny feeling' in
    the right pedal stroke as though the chain drive is not tight and it plays
    'catchup' for a an inch.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    He checked it again yesterday and said I needed a new chain. He's going to replace the big ring
    in the front since that's the one I ride in mostly,

    If the bike is less than a year old, you shouldn't need a new chainring.

    OK, he said if I used the whole rear cassette then it might be OK. If I
    tended to use one or two that when the chain aged and got stretched it
    tended to make points on the ring most in use and this would cause sloppy
    shifting (?).

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Its [cassette] currently, I think, Sora components. Can I just have the shop put in Tiagra or is there more to it than that?

    As long as it's the same number of cogs. But I would start with just
    replacing the chain.

    But would a 'better' component be noticeable? He didn't even mention which
    chain to get.

    Quoted message said:

    What exactly is the problem you're experiencing? You say the bike is
    less than a year old. How many miles are on it?

    ~2K miles. 9 months old.

    The wrench said I needed to get the deraileur cables replaced since it
    wasn't operating the front der smoothly and he couldn't get it adjusted
    anymore. I keep the bike in the house and don't ride it in the pouring
    rain. Have been caught out a couple times. I don't do anything other than
    oil the chain for maintenence at this point.

    He said he replaced his cables every 6-8 months. So I figured 'fall tune
    up' as long as the bike is in the shop. He put the bike up on the rack and
    immediately said I needed a new chain. The bike had ridden smoothly until
    last week. I thought bottom bracket something loose? He said chain. It's a
    little catch as the pedal seems to need to catch up to the downward
    pedalling force on one side. But that could be an illusion. Left side seems
    fine. That made me think something loose on the right, because a stretched
    chain would be felt on both sides - a guess I've only been riding a short
    time.

    The guy seems sincere, but I've experienced many different approaches from
    the various wrenches. All seem nice, try to save me money rather than sell
    me stuff I don't need.

    Unless he put a chain length checker on the chain, you cannot just look
    at it and tell the chain is history. Should NOT be in 2000 miles. I
    suspect something else, like perhaps a freehub body
    problem...consistent with the 'catch up' feeling type thing. Also bogus
    is the cables and housing for a bike largely ridden in the dry. Also no
    need for a new big ring...these last long, far longer than 2000 miles.

    Methinks you need a better mechanic, whether this one is sincere or
    not.

    Quoted message said:


    Thanks for the input!
    Hoffer

    Quoted message said:

    Art Harris

  13. Qui si parla Campagnolo said:
    Quoted message said:

    The guy seems sincere, but I've experienced many different approaches from
    the various wrenches. All seem nice, try to save me money rather than sell
    me stuff I don't need.

    Unless he put a chain length checker on the chain, you cannot just look
    at it and tell the chain is history. Should NOT be in 2000 miles. I
    suspect something else, like perhaps a freehub body
    problem...consistent with the 'catch up' feeling type thing. Also bogus
    is the cables and housing for a bike largely ridden in the dry. Also no
    need for a new big ring...these last long, far longer than 2000 miles.

    Methinks you need a better mechanic, whether this one is sincere or
    not.

    The other guy who is on vacation told me I needed the $175 buck total tune
    up. This guy said 'no-o-o' LOL.

    Freehub body problem. I'll ask. Oh the free hub in back. OK I'll ask.
    Couldn't be expensive.

    He said it was gummy and he couldn't adjust the front der. Must have spent
    20min fooling with it.

    Also when the LBS set it up on purchase they had to roll the drop bars up
    to give me the height I needed, in addition to a longer stem and it
    stretched the cables to the max. He said if he put it up any more then
    they'd have to replace the cables. So I got a bit of short shrift on the
    fit. Too good a deal to kill it over something like that.

    Did use a chain length checker. Didn't say how much stretch. Was fine in
    July. Didn't say anything about housing.

    Thanks Peter,
    Hoffer

  14. Qui si parla Campagnolo said:
    Quoted message said:

    The guy seems sincere, but I've experienced many different approaches from
    the various wrenches. All seem nice, try to save me money rather than sell
    me stuff I don't need.

    Unless he put a chain length checker on the chain, you cannot just look
    at it and tell the chain is history. Should NOT be in 2000 miles. I
    suspect something else, like perhaps a freehub body
    problem...consistent with the 'catch up' feeling type thing. Also bogus
    is the cables and housing for a bike largely ridden in the dry. Also no
    need for a new big ring...these last long, far longer than 2000 miles.

    Methinks you need a better mechanic, whether this one is sincere or
    not.

    The other guy who is on vacation told me I needed the $175 buck total tune
    up. This guy said 'no-o-o' LOL.

    Freehub body problem. I'll ask. Oh the free hub in back. OK I'll ask.
    Couldn't be expensive.

    He said it was gummy and he couldn't adjust the front der. Must have spent
    20min fooling with it.

    Also when the LBS set it up on purchase they had to roll the drop bars up
    to give me the height I needed, in addition to a longer stem and it
    stretched the cables to the max. He said if he put it up any more then
    they'd have to replace the cables. So I got a bit of short shrift on the
    fit. Too good a deal to kill it over something like that.

    Did use a chain length checker. Didn't say how much stretch. Was fine in
    July. Didn't say anything about housing.

    Thanks Peter,
    Hoffer

  15. Qui si parla Campagnolo said:
    Quoted message said:

    The guy seems sincere, but I've experienced many different approaches from
    the various wrenches. All seem nice, try to save me money rather than sell
    me stuff I don't need.

    Unless he put a chain length checker on the chain, you cannot just look
    at it and tell the chain is history. Should NOT be in 2000 miles. I
    suspect something else, like perhaps a freehub body
    problem...consistent with the 'catch up' feeling type thing. Also bogus
    is the cables and housing for a bike largely ridden in the dry. Also no
    need for a new big ring...these last long, far longer than 2000 miles.

    Methinks you need a better mechanic, whether this one is sincere or
    not.

    The other guy who is on vacation told me I needed the $175 buck total tune
    up. This guy said 'no-o-o' LOL.

    Freehub body problem. I'll ask. Oh the free hub in back. OK I'll ask.
    Couldn't be expensive.

    He said it was gummy and he couldn't adjust the front der. Must have spent
    20min fooling with it.

    Also when the LBS set it up on purchase they had to roll the drop bars up
    to give me the height I needed, in addition to a longer stem and it
    stretched the cables to the max. He said if he put it up any more then
    they'd have to replace the cables. So I got a bit of short shrift on the
    fit. Too good a deal to kill it over something like that.

    Did use a chain length checker. Didn't say how much stretch. Was fine in
    July. Didn't say anything about housing.

    Thanks Peter,
    Hoffer

  16. Hoffer said:

    He said it was gummy and he couldn't adjust the front der. Must have spent
    20min fooling with it.

    I don't know about the rest of your problem, but this problem could be
    the result of sports drink dripping down to the bottom of the bike. The
    derailer cable gets gummed up where it passes below the bottom bracket.
    Wash the bottom of the bike or clean that area with some WD-40 or the
    like. Keep any WD-40 away from the bottom bracket and pedal bearings;
    wipe off any excess.

    --
    Dave
    dvt at psu dot edu

  17. Hoffer said:

    He said it was gummy and he couldn't adjust the front der. Must have spent
    20min fooling with it.

    I don't know about the rest of your problem, but this problem could be
    the result of sports drink dripping down to the bottom of the bike. The
    derailer cable gets gummed up where it passes below the bottom bracket.
    Wash the bottom of the bike or clean that area with some WD-40 or the
    like. Keep any WD-40 away from the bottom bracket and pedal bearings;
    wipe off any excess.

    --
    Dave
    dvt at psu dot edu

  18. Hoffer said:

    He said it was gummy and he couldn't adjust the front der. Must have spent
    20min fooling with it.

    I don't know about the rest of your problem, but this problem could be
    the result of sports drink dripping down to the bottom of the bike. The
    derailer cable gets gummed up where it passes below the bottom bracket.
    Wash the bottom of the bike or clean that area with some WD-40 or the
    like. Keep any WD-40 away from the bottom bracket and pedal bearings;
    wipe off any excess.

    --
    Dave
    dvt at psu dot edu

  19. dvt said:
    Hoffer said:

    He said it was gummy and he couldn't adjust the front der. Must have spent
    20min fooling with it.

    I don't know about the rest of your problem, but this problem could be
    the result of sports drink dripping down to the bottom of the bike. The
    derailer cable gets gummed up where it passes below the bottom bracket.
    Wash the bottom of the bike or clean that area with some WD-40 or the
    like. Keep any WD-40 away from the bottom bracket and pedal bearings;
    wipe off any excess.

    Nope nothing ever dripping down bike kept very clean, indoors. No WD-40
    ever on it. Some road gum and stuff around the front der, mebee, but
    nothing major. But check.

    Hoffer

  20. dvt said:
    Hoffer said:

    He said it was gummy and he couldn't adjust the front der. Must have spent
    20min fooling with it.

    I don't know about the rest of your problem, but this problem could be
    the result of sports drink dripping down to the bottom of the bike. The
    derailer cable gets gummed up where it passes below the bottom bracket.
    Wash the bottom of the bike or clean that area with some WD-40 or the
    like. Keep any WD-40 away from the bottom bracket and pedal bearings;
    wipe off any excess.

    Nope nothing ever dripping down bike kept very clean, indoors. No WD-40
    ever on it. Some road gum and stuff around the front der, mebee, but
    nothing major. But check.

    Hoffer

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