us #1 in world weapon sales

Hypnospin said:

pouring gas on the fire, the us continues to play both sides, arming so called friends and rivals alike.

when it comes to weapons of mass destruction being found, looks like a jackpot.

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anyone find this as less than prudent?

any of you find a way to approve?

Guns don't kill people - people kill people 😉

Its called 'sport'..

the US arms them up with guns, explosives and planes/tanks and then, when they get too big for thier boots they decide to invade them.

whats the point in delaring war on a country that has no army or military capability?. where is the sport in that?

its available for the XBOX, PS2 and the PC.

Hypnospin said:

pouring gas on the fire, the us continues to play both sides, arming so called friends and rivals alike.

when it comes to weapons of mass destruction being found, looks like a jackpot.

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anyone find this as less than prudent?

any of you find a way to approve?

MountainPro said:

Its called 'sport'..

the US arms them up with guns, explosives and planes/tanks and then, when they get too big for thier boots they decide to invade them.

whats the point in delaring war on a country that has no army or military capability?. where is the sport in that?

its available for the XBOX, PS2 and the PC.

The same sport as leveling a 50 caliber cannon on a deer,which is no more than a small un-domesticated cow, and blowing him half into for a throphy.
It makes you feel like real man.
Now huntin Grizzly with a pocket knife is true sport.

Hypocrit that I am, since I do eat meat.

jhuskey said:

The same sport as leveling a 50 caliber cannon on a deer,which is no more than a small un-domesticated cow, and blowing him half into for a throphy.
It makes you feel like real man.
Now huntin Grizzly with a pocket knife is true sport.

Hypocrit that I am, since I do eat meat.

We have a lot of that in South Africa - foreigners (mostly british, french and american) come to the country to waste an old lion who can hardly walk with a high power scoped rifle and then brag about how manly they are and how dangerous the sport is.

Pffff - it's more dangerous opening a can of tuna.

[quote="Eldron"]Guns don't kill people - people kill people 😉[/QUOTE
Guns make it a lot easier to kill people, don't they? 🙁

stevebaby said:

Guns make it a lot easier to kill people, don't they? 🙁

So do knives and baseball bats.

Colorado Ryder said:

So do knives and baseball bats.

we are all making light of this very grave situation...

selling arms to poor countries who cant afford to feed thier population is bad enough but when you are sanctioning other countries that need food, clothing and medical supplies...its pretty despicable.

they are only selling arms so that the country so that they can deal with a sitiation that the US should be dealing with. Its a form of prostitution through warfare.

The USA is guilty as charged.
but so are other countries.
What about peace loving Sweden ? they've a huge weapon sales industry.
France, the same.

The arms industry is exploitation to the nth degree.
Despots are allowed to rule and then the despot's enemy (a despot in the making, invariably) is supplied by the same arms dealer.

Exploitation.

MountainPro said:

we are all making light of this very grave situation...

selling arms to poor countries who cant afford to feed thier population is bad enough but when you are sanctioning other countries that need food, clothing and medical supplies...its pretty despicable.

they are only selling arms so that the country so that they can deal with a sitiation that the US should be dealing with. Its a form of prostitution through warfare.

I agree selling arms to poor countries is wrong (dispicable is a better word) but I disagree with the "US should get involved" comment. Half the trouble in the world was caused by the US getting involved.

If anything the US should be providing aid - but that aint as profitable as selling guns....

War is great business and weapons sales are probably the second oldest business in the world right behind sex.
Maybe if we all just had more sex we would have less time for war.

jhuskey said:

War is great business and weapons sales are probably the second oldest business in the world right behind sex.
Maybe if we all just had more sex we would have less time for war.

But guns kill people...faster!

2FAST4U said:

But guns kill people...faster!

Chosing which way to go a bullet or sex.......let me think...... I guess I will have someone just hold a gun on me and make me have sex until I expire.

PS: It doesn't need to be loaded.

Eldron said:

I disagree with the "US should get involved" comment. Half the trouble in the world was caused by the US getting involved.

If anything the US should be providing aid - but that aint as profitable as selling guns....

no, i am not saying the US should get involved, i am saying they want to get involved but dont want to commit troop and money to the project, why not get some lackie to do it for you?....save your own 'ass' and make money at the same time, something most americans aspire to.

look at the iran/iraq war.

limerickman said:

The USA is guilty as charged.
but so are other countries.
What about peace loving Sweden ? they've a huge weapon sales industry.
France, the same.

Sweden:
http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Jakt/IndexJetJakt.htm
France:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exocet_missile

Colorado Ryder said:

So do knives and baseball bats.

It is difficult if not impossible to kill anyone at a distance with a knife or a baseball bat.
It is more difficult to disarm someone who is armed with a gun than someone who is armed with a knife or a baseball bat.
Victims attacked with knives or baseball bats have a much higher survival rate than gunshot victims.
The availability of lethal weapons (such as firearms) increases the likelihood that they will be used.
Before the merkin civil war,firearms were too expensive for most people in the us.Over-production after the civil war meant that the price of firearms dropped and gun manufacturers had to find new markets in order to maintain profitibility. They turned to the domestic market and exploited people's fears with a lot of lies.Unfortunately they found a ready market among the gullible.The us has had an obsession with weapons ever since then.
The us (and others) produce far more weapons than they would ever need to defend their own countries.For arms manufacturers to increase profits they must sell them to other countries and the us has a long history of supplying weapons to anyone who wants them (i.e. the taliban,iran etc.),all in the name of profit.The arms trade is just as reprehensible as the trade in heroin.
According to your "logic","heroin doesn't kill people,they kill themselves",so why not legalise heroin,too?

Per capita,the us is the highest consumer of firearms in the Western world.
Per capita,the us has the highest murder rate in the Western world.
Per capita,the us is the highest consumer of viagra in the Western world.
Every time a gun nut tries to defend the indefensible,they go a long way towards explaining why the above three facts are related.

i have been thinking along these lines, to believe otherwise takes such a stretch of imagination in the realm of fantasy rationalization, that if one could get behind supporting the us supplying of weaponry, than what is to follow?

a slippery slope, i say, and one that all fanatical perpetrators of warfare upon humankind have been down...

stevebaby said:

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The us (and others) produce far more weapons than they would ever need to defend their own countries.For arms manufacturers to increase profits they must sell them to other countries and the us has a long history of supplying weapons to anyone who wants them (i.e. the taliban,iran etc.),all in the name of profit..

stevebaby said:

It is difficult if not impossible to kill anyone at a distance with a knife or a baseball bat.
It is more difficult to disarm someone who is armed with a gun than someone who is armed with a knife or a baseball bat.
Victims attacked with knives or baseball bats have a much higher survival rate than gunshot victims.
The availability of lethal weapons (such as firearms) increases the likelihood that they will be used.
Before the merkin civil war,firearms were too expensive for most people in the us.Over-production after the civil war meant that the price of firearms dropped and gun manufacturers had to find new markets in order to maintain profitibility. They turned to the domestic market and exploited people's fears with a lot of lies.Unfortunately they found a ready market among the gullible.The us has had an obsession with weapons ever since then.
The us (and others) produce far more weapons than they would ever need to defend their own countries.For arms manufacturers to increase profits they must sell them to other countries and the us has a long history of supplying weapons to anyone who wants them (i.e. the taliban,iran etc.),all in the name of profit.The arms trade is just as reprehensible as the trade in heroin.
According to your "logic","heroin doesn't kill people,they kill themselves",so why not legalise heroin,too?

Per capita,the us is the highest consumer of firearms in the Western world.
Per capita,the us has the highest murder rate in the Western world.
Per capita,the us is the highest consumer of viagra in the Western world.
Every time a gun nut tries to defend the indefensible,they go a long way towards explaining why the above three facts are related.

First of all the first part of your post is not true.... Prior to the civil war , most households maintained firearms.
Where do you get your facts?? Are you sure gun wounds are more fatal then knife wounds? Show me the statistics.
And few deaths by guns are at a distance of more then 5 feet. Not at a distance.
I would like to see the facts of the last 3 statements you posted. Or did you assume these facts ?

wolf, the us rated #4 for for murders with firearms.
a higher score for executions, a #3 rank.
this puts the us right up there with what might be commonly termed as less developed nations...
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some other less than tasty tidbits here as well,
see how things stack up from a statistical standpoint as given here if you wish.

wolfix said:

facts?? I would like to see the facts of the last 3 statements you posted. ?

stevebaby said:

Per capita,the us is the highest consumer of firearms in the Western world..

Your graph does not show this. It may be there, but you will need to show me this statistic.

stevebaby said:

Per capita,the us has the highest murder rate in the Western world..

Wrong ..... Your graph has the USA listed #24. And since this post talks about guns, your graph has the USA listed #8. So, the US does not have the highest murder rate per capita.

stevebaby said:

Per capita,the us is the highest consumer of viagra in the Western world..

What is wrong with this statistic? It shows we have a great modern medical system.

stevebaby said:

Every time a gun nut tries to defend the indefensible,they go a long way towards explaining why the above three facts are related.

Explain to me "why the above three facts are related." And your use of the word "indefensible" assumes most people agree with your perception.