Velocity Rims "Q"

Chris Y.F.N.W. said:

The rims on my Touring bike are getting a little too banged up, and I am
considering getting a new pair. I like the Velocity "Twin Hollow"
design, which seem reminiscent of my old nearly-indestructable Weinmann
"Concave" rims (except of course they're not concave), AND the have a
hooked bead, a feature the Concaves sadly lacked.

I tried to look these rims up on both Road Bike Review and Mountain Bike
review, but no go. Is anyone here familiar with these rims? Are the
spoke holes ferruled or plain? How is the seam joined (weld? Glued?
..?). How true/round are the bare (unspoked) rims?

Any info/reviews appreciated.

I haven't built any, but they are basic,
single-wall-with-reinforcement, non-eyeletted (no ferrules) rim made
with cheap replacement/OEM wheels in mind, and they'll probably end up
being a bit more expensive than most rims matching that description,
with little or no benefit.

I believe they're pinned.

Nate Knutson said:

Chris Y.F.N.W. said:

The rims on my Touring bike are getting a little too banged up, and I am
considering getting a new pair. I like the Velocity "Twin Hollow"
design, which seem reminiscent of my old nearly-indestructable Weinmann
"Concave" rims (except of course they're not concave), AND the have a
hooked bead, a feature the Concaves sadly lacked.

I tried to look these rims up on both Road Bike Review and Mountain Bike
review, but no go. Is anyone here familiar with these rims? Are the
spoke holes ferruled or plain? How is the seam joined (weld? Glued?
..?). How true/round are the bare (unspoked) rims?

Any info/reviews appreciated.

I haven't built any, but they are basic,
single-wall-with-reinforcement, non-eyeletted (no ferrules) rim made
with cheap replacement/OEM wheels in mind, and they'll probably end up
being a bit more expensive than most rims matching that description,
with little or no benefit.

In general, Velocity has very good QC. Their rims are pretty true and
round prior to build up, making it easier to build a round and true
wheel with even spoke tension. IMO, that's worth paying a bit more for.

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I believe they're pinned.

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The rims on my Touring bike are getting a little too banged up, and I am
considering getting a new pair. I like the Velocity "Twin Hollow"
design, which seem reminiscent of my old nearly-indestructable Weinmann
"Concave" rims (except of course they're not concave), AND the have a
hooked bead, a feature the Concaves sadly lacked.

I tried to look these rims up on both Road Bike Review and Mountain Bike
review, but no go. Is anyone here familiar with these rims? Are the
spoke holes ferruled or plain? How is the seam joined (weld? Glued?
..?). How true/round are the bare (unspoked) rims?

Any info/reviews appreciated.

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I recently built a pair of Twin Hollow rims in 27" for a retro single-speed
conversion customer and they were surprisingly nice for as basic as they
are. Wheels came out round and true with even tension. No machined
sidewalls so they're the tiniest bit "lumpy" in the truing stand but the
first time the brakes are applied that smooths out. Pinned seam behaves
like this type of seam; noticeable but not drastic. No eyelets but with
brass nips, easy build with fine results. I'd say the Concave was better
but given the limited choices in 27" rims, I'd use the Twin Hollow again.

If you want a better rim from Velocity, the Razor is excellent, but not
offered in 27". It is double wall, single eyelet with machined sidewalls.

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Quoted message said:

I recently built a pair of Twin Hollow rims in 27" for a retro

single-speed

Quoted message said:

conversion customer and they were surprisingly nice for as basic as

they

Quoted message said:

are. Wheels came out round and true with even tension. No machined
sidewalls so they're the tiniest bit "lumpy" in the truing stand but

the

Quoted message said:

first time the brakes are applied that smooths out. Pinned seam

behaves

Quoted message said:

like this type of seam; noticeable but not drastic. No eyelets but

with

Quoted message said:

brass nips, easy build with fine results. I'd say the Concave was

better

Quoted message said:

but given the limited choices in 27" rims, I'd use the Twin Hollow

again.

Quoted message said:

If you want a better rim from Velocity, the Razor is excellent, but

not

Quoted message said:

offered in 27". It is double wall, single eyelet with machined

sidewalls.

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What do you think of Velocity Aerohead and Aerohead O/C rims?

Chas.

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Quoted message said:

I recently built a pair of Twin Hollow rims in 27" for a retro

single-speed

Quoted message said:

conversion customer and they were surprisingly nice for as basic as

they

Quoted message said:

are. Wheels came out round and true with even tension. No machined
sidewalls so they're the tiniest bit "lumpy" in the truing stand but

the

Quoted message said:

first time the brakes are applied that smooths out. Pinned seam

behaves

Quoted message said:

like this type of seam; noticeable but not drastic. No eyelets but

with

Quoted message said:

brass nips, easy build with fine results. I'd say the Concave was

better

Quoted message said:

but given the limited choices in 27" rims, I'd use the Twin Hollow

again.

Quoted message said:

If you want a better rim from Velocity, the Razor is excellent, but

not

Quoted message said:

offered in 27". It is double wall, single eyelet with machined

sidewalls.

Quoted message said:

What do you think of Velocity Aerohead and Aerohead O/C rims?

Chas.

My very favorite road rims these days. I use 'em almost exclusively for my
high-end builds. Light and durable. The OC for rear makes for a far
superior wheel over any center-drilled rim.

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Nate Knutson said:

Chris Y.F.N.W. said:

The rims on my Touring bike are getting a little too banged up, and I am
considering getting a new pair. I like the Velocity "Twin Hollow"
design, which seem reminiscent of my old nearly-indestructable Weinmann
"Concave" rims (except of course they're not concave), AND the have a
hooked bead, a feature the Concaves sadly lacked.

I tried to look these rims up on both Road Bike Review and Mountain Bike
review, but no go. Is anyone here familiar with these rims? Are the
spoke holes ferruled or plain? How is the seam joined (weld? Glued?
..?). How true/round are the bare (unspoked) rims?

Any info/reviews appreciated.

I haven't built any, but they are basic,
single-wall-with-reinforcement, non-eyeletted (no ferrules) rim made
with cheap replacement/OEM wheels in mind, and they'll probably end up
being a bit more expensive than most rims matching that description,
with little or no benefit.

In general, Velocity has very good QC. Their rims are pretty true and
round prior to build up, making it easier to build a round and true
wheel with even spoke tension. IMO, that's worth paying a bit more for.

Velocity rims are indeed good like that (although in the archives of
rbt you can find some reports that these are an exception). However,
these are still a single wall rim. The cheap versions of CR-18s and
ZAC-19s are just a bit more expensive and may not build up as
nicely/easily in terms of radial truth and tension balance, but if
they're built well they'll still be a lot better for pounding on than
any rim like the Twin Hollow, IME. Not being made in Southeast Asia is
a plus, though.

FWIW John built up a set of wheels for me using Velocity Aerohead front and
OC rear w/ DuraAce 7700 hubs and 14/15 Sapim spokes and they have
worked out very well.

Rick

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<snip>

Quoted message said:

I recently built a pair of Twin Hollow rims in 27" for a retro

single-speed

Quoted message said:

conversion customer and they were surprisingly nice for as basic as

they

Quoted message said:

are. Wheels came out round and true with even tension. No machined
sidewalls so they're the tiniest bit "lumpy" in the truing stand but

the

Quoted message said:

first time the brakes are applied that smooths out. Pinned seam

behaves

Quoted message said:

like this type of seam; noticeable but not drastic. No eyelets but

with

Quoted message said:

brass nips, easy build with fine results. I'd say the Concave was

better

Quoted message said:

but given the limited choices in 27" rims, I'd use the Twin Hollow

again.

Quoted message said:

If you want a better rim from Velocity, the Razor is excellent, but

not

Quoted message said:

offered in 27". It is double wall, single eyelet with machined

sidewalls.

Quoted message said:

What do you think of Velocity Aerohead and Aerohead O/C rims?

Chas.

My very favorite road rims these days. I use 'em almost exclusively for my
high-end builds. Light and durable. The OC for rear makes for a far
superior wheel over any center-drilled rim.

Nate Knutson said:

The cheap versions of CR-18s and
ZAC-19s are just a bit more expensive and may not build up as
nicely/easily in terms of radial truth and tension balance, but if
they're built well they'll still be a lot better for pounding on than
any rim like the Twin Hollow, IME.

Alex DM18 rims are of better quality than any of the above, and cheaper
too.

Chalo

Chris Y.F.N.W. said:

The rims on my Touring bike are getting a little too banged up, and I am
considering getting a new pair. I like the Velocity "Twin Hollow"
design, which seem reminiscent of my old nearly-indestructable Weinmann
"Concave" rims (except of course they're not concave), AND the have a
hooked bead, a feature the Concaves sadly lacked.

I tried to look these rims up on both Road Bike Review and Mountain Bike
review, but no go. Is anyone here familiar with these rims? Are the
spoke holes ferruled or plain? How is the seam joined (weld? Glued?
..?). How true/round are the bare (unspoked) rims?

Any info/reviews appreciated.

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Good basic no eyelet rim..I have built more than a few, good rim for
the money. For a slightly better rim, look at the Dyad as well.

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Quoted message said:

<snip>

Quoted message said:

I recently built a pair of Twin Hollow rims in 27" for a retro

single-speed

Quoted message said:

conversion customer and they were surprisingly nice for as basic as

they

Quoted message said:

are. Wheels came out round and true with even tension. No machined
sidewalls so they're the tiniest bit "lumpy" in the truing stand but

the

Quoted message said:

first time the brakes are applied that smooths out. Pinned seam

behaves

Quoted message said:

like this type of seam; noticeable but not drastic. No eyelets but

with

Quoted message said:

brass nips, easy build with fine results. I'd say the Concave was

better

Quoted message said:

but given the limited choices in 27" rims, I'd use the Twin Hollow

again.

Quoted message said:

If you want a better rim from Velocity, the Razor is excellent, but

not

Quoted message said:

offered in 27". It is double wall, single eyelet with machined

sidewalls.

Quoted message said:

What do you think of Velocity Aerohead and Aerohead O/C rims?

Chas.

If we had a 'standard' Vecchio's wheelset, which we don't really, but
it would be a Aerohead OC rear and Aerohead front, varying only in
spoke number...Revs in the front, 14/15 rear. I have built Dozens, use
them on my Fixie(not the OC rear, of course) and they make for a really
nice wheelset.

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Quoted message said:

The rims on my Touring bike are getting a little too banged up, and I am
considering getting a new pair. I like the Velocity "Twin Hollow"
design, which seem reminiscent of my old nearly-indestructable Weinmann
"Concave" rims (except of course they're not concave), AND the have a
hooked bead, a feature the Concaves sadly lacked.

I tried to look these rims up on both Road Bike Review and Mountain Bike
review, but no go. Is anyone here familiar with these rims? Are the
spoke holes ferruled or plain? How is the seam joined (weld? Glued?
..?). How true/round are the bare (unspoked) rims?

Any info/reviews appreciated.

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I recently built a pair of Twin Hollow rims in 27" for a retro single-speed
conversion customer and they were surprisingly nice for as basic as they
are. Wheels came out round and true with even tension. No machined
sidewalls so they're the tiniest bit "lumpy" in the truing stand but the
first time the brakes are applied that smooths out. Pinned seam behaves
like this type of seam; noticeable but not drastic. No eyelets but with
brass nips, easy build with fine results. I'd say the Concave was better
but given the limited choices in 27" rims, I'd use the Twin Hollow again.

If you want a better rim from Velocity, the Razor is excellent, but not
offered in 27". It is double wall, single eyelet with machined sidewalls.

BUT as Velocity USA notes...Razors are very suseptible to eyelets
pulling out if recommended tension is exceeded...I think the DT rim is
a better choise than the Razor, for an eyeleted rim and comparable
price. Distant 3rd is mavic Openpro

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

BUT as Velocity USA notes...Razors are very suseptible to eyelets
pulling out if recommended tension is exceeded...I think the DT rim is
a better choise than the Razor, for an eyeleted rim and comparable
price. Distant 3rd is mavic Openpro

Can you share with us where Velocity notes such information?

I vaguely recall someone also saying that Velocity provides spoke
tension limit info, but I haven't found that info on their web site either.

I've got a pair of Deep V rims on the way, to be mated to some Ultegra
hubs via DT Competition spokes. I figure it'd be good to find out
everything I can about them before I start building.

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Chris Y.F.N.W. said:

The rims on my Touring bike are getting a little too banged up, and I am
considering getting a new pair. I like the Velocity "Twin Hollow"
design, which seem reminiscent of my old nearly-indestructable Weinmann
"Concave" rims (except of course they're not concave), AND the have a
hooked bead, a feature the Concaves sadly lacked.

I tried to look these rims up on both Road Bike Review and Mountain Bike
review, but no go. Is anyone here familiar with these rims? Are the
spoke holes ferruled or plain? How is the seam joined (weld? Glued?
...?). How true/round are the bare (unspoked) rims?

Any info/reviews appreciated.

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Velocity makes rims for this application that are good, pinned rim joint.
Dyad has no eyelets or sockets and is symentrical dual walled rim.
Synergy has eyelets (no sockets) and has an asymentrical (OC) rim for the rear to help even up the spoke load sharing.
Both are more expensive than Twin Hollow, but both are significantly more durable.

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What do you think of Velocity Aerohead and Aerohead O/C rims?

Chas.

If we had a 'standard' Vecchio's wheelset, which we don't really, but
it would be a Aerohead OC rear and Aerohead front, varying only in
spoke number...Revs in the front, 14/15 rear. I have built Dozens, use
them on my Fixie(not the OC rear, of course) and they make for a really
nice wheelset.

Ditto for BFWG. . . standard light-weight road wheels include AeroHead OC
rear, standard AeroHead front, White Industries H1 road hubs and Sapim
CX-Ray blades. . . . My "Fat Guy" wheels with 36 spokes rear / 32 front
weighs in at a very respectable 1550 grams +/- and holds up & feels great
even under my 1/8 ton self. . . The skinny guy version with 28 spokes rear
/ 24 front comes in just under 1400 grams.

I'm a firm believer in the benefit of the OC for rear wheels and think it is
one of the few innovations in wheel components that really make a
difference.

Victor Kan said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

BUT as Velocity USA notes...Razors are very suseptible to eyelets
pulling out if recommended tension is exceeded...I think the DT rim is
a better choise than the Razor, for an eyeleted rim and comparable
price. Distant 3rd is mavic Openpro

Can you share with us where Velocity notes such information?

Noted to me on the phone from the guy at VelocityUSA. "remember that
it's important to use a maximum of 100 kgf on the left side rear and
front on Razor rims" or words to that effect.

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I vaguely recall someone also saying that Velocity provides spoke
tension limit info, but I haven't found that info on their web site either.

Try calling them-

http://www.velocityusa.com

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I've got a pair of Deep V rims on the way, to be mated to some Ultegra
hubs via DT Competition spokes. I figure it'd be good to find out
everything I can about them before I start building.

100 kgf is what I use on all their rims, as well as all others...left
side rear and front.

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What do you think of Velocity Aerohead and Aerohead O/C rims?

Chas.

If we had a 'standard' Vecchio's wheelset, which we don't really, but
it would be a Aerohead OC rear and Aerohead front, varying only in
spoke number...Revs in the front, 14/15 rear. I have built Dozens, use
them on my Fixie(not the OC rear, of course) and they make for a really
nice wheelset.

Ditto for BFWG. . . standard light-weight road wheels include AeroHead OC
rear, standard AeroHead front, White Industries H1 road hubs and Sapim
CX-Ray blades. . . . My "Fat Guy" wheels with 36 spokes rear / 32 front
weighs in at a very respectable 1550 grams +/- and holds up & feels great
even under my 1/8 ton self. . . The skinny guy version with 28 spokes rear
/ 24 front comes in just under 1400 grams.

I'm a firm believer in the benefit of the OC for rear wheels and think it is
one of the few innovations in wheel components that really make a
difference.

I'm guessing BFWG stands for "Large Wheel Guy?"

Ron

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

100 kgf is what I use on all their rims, as well as all others...left
side rear and front.

Don't you mean _right_ side rear? (Drive-side?)

Pat

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I'm guessing BFWG stands for "Large Wheel Guy?"

Ron

That is correct. . . I'm also known as One8thTonMan . . . .

Thanks for all you're responces, I have heard that Velocity is a quality
rim, but never in the form of customer reviews.

From what I hear, it sounds like a good deal. Certainly sufficient for
my needs.

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