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  1. I have looked through alot of posts about low cholesterol, but not
    anyone as low as mine. I am a big guy, I do eat well and correctly.
    Just too much of it 🙂

    I have always had low cholesterol. This time it was really low. My HDL
    was 15, total was 40's. So far I have been told to drink a glass of red
    wine a day and exercise more while taking 500mg nicain pills.

    Is there anything else I should be looking into or any severe health
    risks I should be wary of?

  2. You would need to be a lot more specific before I would make any major
    suggetions. Age, height/weight, build, diet, cooking methods,
    supplements, family history, individual medical history, work place
    exposures, home exposures (such as if you use certain kinds of
    fertilizers or insect toxins on your lawn), medications you've taken
    (do you take antibiotics often, for example?), etc., should be
    disclosed. Cholesterol that low means an incredibly higher risk for
    cancer, bleeding strokes, and death from blunt force traumas
    (statistically). Who gave you that advice? If I were you, at this
    point I would eat 2 organic eggs a day (boiled only) for starters. I
    have a feeling something you are eating (or ingesting) is doing this to
    you. The red wine might prevent cholesterol from getting oxidized to
    some degree (assuming it hasn't been before you consumed it), but it
    won't raise anything substantially. I'd also avoid any kind of
    strenuous exercise as well until this is sorted out. Niacin is
    supposed to "lower cholesterol" so I would be wary of listening to
    whoever told you to do that in the future - that has "malpractice"
    written all over it.

  3. 19 Dec 2005 16:49:17 -0800 in article
    <[email hidden]> "montygram"

    Quoted message said:

    Niacin is
    supposed to "lower cholesterol" so I would be wary of listening to
    whoever told you to do that in the future - that has "malpractice"
    written all over it.

    Niacin does not lower LDL markedly, but it _raises_ HDL, which is the main
    reason for its use in lipid profile context.

    --
    Matti Narkia

  4. Who knows what niacin would do in someone with such low numbers? Do
    you know of a study done on a large number of such people, involving
    niacin as the only factor controlled for? I don't. "First, do no
    harm." I heard that somewhere. Anyone care to guess?

  5. Obvious question: have you had another test done? It might just be a
    lab error.

  6. Yea, I have had this for about 6 years and it keeps getting lower. To
    answer, I am about 300lbs, 5'10", stocky strong build. No family
    history of low cholesterol, but history of high on both sides of the
    family. I am in ain apartment building with no lawn so no exposure
    there. I have had several work places since I first found out about my
    issue. My doctor prescribed the Niacin and told me to swim regularly
    15-30 minutes at a time minimum.

    I have already tried to increase my HDL via diet with eggs, oils, fish,
    vitamins. I only cook with olive oils and occational butter. Never
    margerine or crisco type [censored].

  7. 20 Dec 2005 07:56:49 -0800 in article
    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Yea, I have had this for about 6 years and it keeps getting lower. To
    answer, I am about 300lbs, 5'10", stocky strong build. No family
    history of low cholesterol, but history of high on both sides of the
    family. I am in ain apartment building with no lawn so no exposure
    there. I have had several work places since I first found out about my
    issue. My doctor prescribed the Niacin and told me to swim regularly
    15-30 minutes at a time minimum.

    I have already tried to increase my HDL via diet with eggs, oils, fish,
    vitamins. I only cook with olive oils and occational butter. Never
    margerine or crisco type [censored].

    What are your blood pressure, blood glucose, CRP and triglyceride values?

    --
    Matti Narkia

  8. What about symptoms? Do you have any problems that you can feel or see?
    Highly unsaturated oils will lower serum total cholesterol, and should
    be avoided regardless of your cholesterol levels due to oxidation
    issues. Obviously, you could afford to lose more than a few pounds.
    Since the liver is involved in synthesis, you should have that
    possibility checked out, or has the doctor already done this? If you
    have every test done that is relevant, I would eat the two boiled eggs
    a day, along with whole milk dairy (uncooked), dark chocolate, berries,
    white tea, while avoiding things that suppress cholesterol from being
    released into the bloodstream and also might oxidize the cholesterol
    you have (meat cooked while exposed to air, fat from an animals source,
    such as lard, and any oil that is liquid at room temperature. Don't
    exercise in a strenous way, don't drink too much alcohol, don't smoke,
    etc., in other words, avoid any kind of physical stress. You can get
    the weight off by using fresh coconut oil and avoiding any major source
    of unsaturated fat, along with the other suggestions above. You could
    have a genetic defect, but at this point, I'd be worried about my liver
    if I were you. At one point my cholesterol was 131, and I would pass
    out upon minor blunt force traumas, like banging my knee into
    something. That does not happen now, with my cholesterol above 200.
    I'm surprised you have not felt the low cholesterol in some way, or
    have you?

    You might want to take a look at this link:
    http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9902/06/strokes/

  9. Quoted message said:

    I have looked through alot of posts about low cholesterol, but not
    anyone as low as mine. I am a big guy, I do eat well and correctly.
    Just too much of it 🙂

    I have always had low cholesterol. This time it was really low. My HDL
    was 15, total was 40's. So far I have been told to drink a glass of red
    wine a day and exercise more while taking 500mg nicain pills.

    Is there anything else I should be looking into or any severe health
    risks I should be wary of?

    Very low HDL generally means only one thing. Your diet is too low in
    fat. Contrary to popular belief, a healthy diet doesn't contain ZERO
    fat. A good diet contains about 30% fat. In extreme cases, where you
    eat only RAW food your diet contains too much fiber.

    2nd, exercise 3 or 4 times a week at the high intensity level. Follow,
    the exercise one hour later by a meal that contains a good amount of
    fat.

    3rd cut all sources of and supplements that contain ZINC. Seemingly
    minor amounts of Zinc will decrease your HDL levels.

    Increasing your HDL levels means increasing the level of fat in your
    diet.
    --
    John Gohde,
    Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science!

    The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is the foundation of the
    biomedical model of natural health. Weighing in at 17 web pages,
    Nutrition (http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/) is now with more
    documentation and sharper terminology than ever before.

  10. "montygram" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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    Quoted message said:

    At one point my cholesterol was 131, and I would pass
    out upon minor blunt force traumas, like banging my knee into
    something.

    ... and you think that this is a perfectly normal physical condition?
    You surely have problems much more severe than you might realize.
    There are lots of people with cholesterol in that area (just think of
    vegetarians) and no problems whatsoever with "passing out when banging their
    knees".

  11. Well that problem, along with many other chronic ones, are gone now,
    MMu, now that I avoid "essential fatty acids." That's what I've been
    trying to tell you and the other naysayers for years now.

    To the OP: have you had an MRA done, or anything else that indicates
    cholesterol buildup in the arteries?

  12. Quoted message said:

    I am about 300lbs, 5'10", stocky strong build.

    I did not see this reply of yours before.

    Everything I wrote before still applies.

    However, due to your weight you probably are suffering from a metabolic
    syndrome ("Syndrome X"😉. According to the personal experiences of Susan
    Fein, which she never lets us forget about, her HDL went from 34 to 68
    within weeks of dropping starch and sugar from her diet, without any
    change in her activity levels. In other words dropping grains and other
    refined carbohydrates from your diet alone should at least double if
    not triple your HDL levels.

  13. "montygram" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well that problem, along with many other chronic ones, are gone now,
    MMu, now that I avoid "essential fatty acids." That's what I've been
    trying to tell you and the other naysayers for years now.

    That problem, and this what I was trying to tell you, is not present in
    other people with vegetarian diets for instance (and those do have a
    significant ammount of essential fatty acids as well)- which in term means:
    it obviously is an individual problem you have and not a general effect.

  14. I am a Registered Dietitian at a hospital in Boston. The patients I see
    with VERY low cholesterol usually have some underlying illness present.
    One of the reasons why someone may have VERY low cholesterol is because
    their bodies are not making enough protein to transport the fat and
    cholesterol around the body (all lipoproteins (HDL, LDL, VLDL, IDL,
    Chylomicrons) contain some protein).
    Some conditions in which this occurs include:
    Celiac disease (gluten enteropathy) - a condition where you are
    "allergic" to a component of wheat protein (gluten)
    Hyperthyroidism
    Liver Disease (the liver makes most lipoproteins, if there is a problem
    with the liver then your cholesterol may be low)
    Malabsorption or inadequate absorption of nutrients from the small
    intestine
    Malnutrition
    Manganese deficiency

    According to the infomation you've given, I DOUBT that you have
    hyperthyroidism or malnutrition secondary to decreased food intake.
    Have you had your liver functions tested? Do you eat a balanced diet?
    Are there any foods/food groups that you strictly avoid? Have you ever
    been tested for Celiac Disease?

    I would get these things checked out - having a TOTAL cholesterol in
    the 40s is EXTREMELY low and may be a sign of an underlying condition.

  15. Matti Narkia said:

    19 Dec 2005 16:49:17 -0800 in article
    <[email hidden]> "montygram"

    Quoted message said:

    Niacin is
    supposed to "lower cholesterol" so I would be wary of listening to
    whoever told you to do that in the future - that has "malpractice"
    written all over it.

    Niacin does not lower LDL markedly, but it _raises_ HDL, which is the main
    reason for its use in lipid profile context.


    Policosanol also raises HDL levels while lowering LDL.

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Matti Narkia

    --Bryan

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