Virtual win For Lance in Dauphiné prologue

trg said:

"Today I was conservative in the climb, and then there was a lot of headwind
in the finish."

"I'm not really specialized in prologue any more"

"It's a short explosive effort and when you get old, you know what happens,"

Armstrong later revealed that one of his feet unclipped from one of his
pedals as he rode up the tough 1.9km climb which the 160-strong field had to
negotiate immediately.

http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/8161.0.html

At least the brake pads didn't rub.

"trg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Today I was conservative in the climb, and then there was a lot of

headwind

Quoted message said:

in the finish."

"I'm not really specialized in prologue any more"

"It's a short explosive effort and when you get old, you know what

happens,"

Quoted message said:

Armstrong later revealed that one of his feet unclipped from one of his
pedals as he rode up the tough 1.9km climb which the 160-strong field had

to

Quoted message said:

negotiate immediately.

http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/8161.0.html

sure he didn't stop to throw out some garbage?

"Donald Munro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

trg said:

"Today I was conservative in the climb, and then there was a lot of
headwind
in the finish."

"I'm not really specialized in prologue any more"

"It's a short explosive effort and when you get old, you know what
happens,"

Armstrong later revealed that one of his feet unclipped from one of his
pedals as he rode up the tough 1.9km climb which the 160-strong field had
to
negotiate immediately.

http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/8161.0.html

At least the brake pads didn't rub.

Thank God he didn't become dehydrated.

matabala said:

"trg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Today I was conservative in the climb, and then there was a lot of

headwind

Quoted message said:

in the finish."

"I'm not really specialized in prologue any more"

"It's a short explosive effort and when you get old, you know what

happens,"

Quoted message said:

Armstrong later revealed that one of his feet unclipped from one of his
pedals as he rode up the tough 1.9km climb which the 160-strong field had

to

Quoted message said:

negotiate immediately.

http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/8161.0.html

sure he didn't stop to throw out some garbage?

I heard he stopped to snag one of those way-cool musette bags.

jj

trg said:

"Today I was conservative in the climb, and then there was a lot of headwind
in the finish."

He doesn't claim that the headwind was his uniquely.

Quoted message said:

"I'm not really specialized in prologue any more"

Actually, he's not. I'd expect him to do well in a prologue and he
didn't do poorly. But I don't expect him to win.

Quoted message said:

"It's a short explosive effort and when you get old, you know what happens,"

This one IS juicy. When your age becomes an issue, when you tell
yourself you're at a competitive disadvantage because of your age, it's
over.

I think we can award Jan the virtual tour victory over this one sentence
alone. Lance is virtual toast.

Tim Lines said:

Quoted message said:

"It's a short explosive effort and when you get old, you know what happens,"

This one IS juicy. When your age becomes an issue, when you tell
yourself you're at a competitive disadvantage because of your age, it's
over.

Or Armstrong is acknowledging reality. When Jalabert got older and less
explosive, he stopped going for sprint wins and got himself a polkadot
jersey. Geez, there's lots of examples of athletes accounting for their
changing bodies and still remaining winners...it's a smart thing to do.
Way smarter than ignoring change.

Or maybe you're right and it's an excuse. I guess we'll find out this
week and in July. Should be a great Tour this year...

Jim

trg said:

"Today I was conservative in the climb, and then there was a lot of headwind
in the finish."

"I'm not really specialized in prologue any more"

"It's a short explosive effort and when you get old, you know what happens,"

Except that a short explosive effort is 10 seconds, not 10 minutes. He
may still use the excuse of being old(er), but attributing it to a loss
of explosiveness is just not correct.

Wayne

Quoted message said:

Tim Lines said:

Quoted message said:

"It's a short explosive effort and when you get old, you know what happens,"

This one IS juicy. When your age becomes an issue, when you tell
yourself you're at a competitive disadvantage because of your age, it's
over.

Or Armstrong is acknowledging reality. When Jalabert got older and less
explosive, he stopped going for sprint wins and got himself a polkadot
jersey. Geez, there's lots of examples of athletes accounting for their
changing bodies and still remaining winners...it's a smart thing to do.
Way smarter than ignoring change.

Never underestimate the power of denial.

Quoted message said:

Or maybe you're right and it's an excuse. I guess we'll find out this
week and in July. Should be a great Tour this year...

Yeah, I think so too. Of course I thought so last year too, and look
what happened.

Quoted message said:

"It's a short explosive effort and when you get old, you know what
happens,"

Maybe he & Bob Dole can get together and do a commercial?

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

"trg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Today I was conservative in the climb, and then there was a lot of
headwind
in the finish."

"I'm not really specialized in prologue any more"

"It's a short explosive effort and when you get old, you know what
happens,"

Armstrong later revealed that one of his feet unclipped from one of his
pedals as he rode up the tough 1.9km climb which the 160-strong field had
to
negotiate immediately.

http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/8161.0.html

<[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Tim Lines said:

Quoted message said:

"It's a short explosive effort and when you get old, you know what

happens,"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This one IS juicy. When your age becomes an issue, when you tell
yourself you're at a competitive disadvantage because of your age, it's
over.

Or Armstrong is acknowledging reality. When Jalabert got older and less
explosive, he stopped going for sprint wins and got himself a polkadot
jersey. Geez, there's lots of examples of athletes accounting for their
changing bodies and still remaining winners...it's a smart thing to do.
Way smarter than ignoring change.

Funny excuse, considering it was Hincapie, who's not getting any younger
himself, who took the win

Quoted message said:

Or Armstrong is acknowledging reality. When Jalabert got older and less
explosive, he stopped going for sprint wins and got himself a polkadot
jersey.

actually, larry stopped going for sprint wins when he lost a large part
of his face in a finish-line pile up.

-walt

"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"It's a short explosive effort and when you get old, you know what
happens,"

Maybe he & Bob Dole can get together and do a commercial?

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com

Viagra and ONCE as joint sponsors ... with the little blind guy on the
jerseys. THAT would work!

--
Bob C.

"Of course it hurts. The trick is not minding that it hurts."
T. E. Lawrence (of Arabia)

In article <[email hidden]>,

Tim Lines said:

trg said:

"Today I was conservative in the climb, and then there was a lot of
headwind
in the finish."

He doesn't claim that the headwind was his uniquely.

McEwen gets that honor.

--
tanx,
Howard

Butter is love.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Howard Kveck said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Tim Lines said:

trg said:

"Today I was conservative in the climb, and then there was a lot of
headwind
in the finish."

He doesn't claim that the headwind was his uniquely.

McEwen gets that honor.

Exactly.

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] wrote:

actually, larry stopped going for sprint wins when he lost a large part
of his face in a finish-line pile up.

Ya, I remember that crash. Man. But I didn't mention it for two
reasons. 1) It doesn't really fit my thesis (this is rbr,
afterall)...and 2) I have some memory of him saying something about
losing his sprint as he got older and making a decision to work on
climbing...Maybe I'm thinking of someone else...But even if he didn't
say it, he sure did do it. What a rider.

Jim

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Quoted message said:

[email hidden] wrote:

actually, larry stopped going for sprint wins when he lost a large part
of his face in a finish-line pile up.

Ya, I remember that crash. Man. But I didn't mention it for two
reasons. 1) It doesn't really fit my thesis (this is rbr,
afterall)...and 2) I have some memory of him saying something about
losing his sprint as he got older and making a decision to work on
climbing...Maybe I'm thinking of someone else...

Jalabert was a good climber before that. He won a stage to the
Cavodonga Lakes in the Vuelta for example.

JT

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Wayne Pein said:

trg said:

"Today I was conservative in the climb, and then there was a lot of headwind
in the finish."

"I'm not really specialized in prologue any more"

"It's a short explosive effort and when you get old, you know what happens,"

Except that a short explosive effort is 10 seconds, not 10 minutes. He
may still use the excuse of being old(er), but attributing it to a loss
of explosiveness is just not correct.

Wayne

Dear Wayne,

When did you get your degree in Armstrong physiology?

Thanks,

Ed

On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:17:41 -0700, Tim Lines <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Never underestimate the power of denial.

Big river, but the hippos will upset your boat and the crocodiles will
bite you in the ass. 1) Jan 2) LA

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Jalabert was a good climber before that. He won a stage to the
Cavodonga Lakes in the Vuelta for example.

Didn't JaJa win just about every stage after the first time trail where
Riis crashed and fractured his spine? (Vuelta 95)

--
Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

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