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  1. Is there a way to buy vulcanizing cement or an equivalent product in
    bulk? I'd like to be able to patch a large number of inner tubes -
    over time, not all at once, so there is concern about it going bad.

    I'm thinking along the lines of a cottage hobby doing simple repairs
    like patching flats and cleaning and lubing chains. Is there a better
    way than just buying a couple hundred patch kits?

    Also, chain lube costs about $10 / 4oz. which is $320 / gallon. I
    realize that modern lubes have complicated formulas that balance
    penetration and durability. However, is there a bulk source of decent
    lube that is more reasonable. Or perhaps some alternative industrial
    lube that performs similarly?

    thank you,
    Brett

  2. Quoted message said:

    Is there a way to buy vulcanizing cement or an equivalent product in
    bulk?  I'd like to be able to patch a large number of inner tubes -
    over time, not all at once, so there is concern about it going bad.

    I'm thinking along the lines of a cottage hobby doing simple repairs
    like patching flats and cleaning and lubing chains.  Is there a better
    way than just buying a couple hundred patch kits?

    Also, chain lube costs about $10 / 4oz.  which is $320 / gallon.  I
    realize that modern lubes have complicated formulas that balance
    penetration and durability.  However, is there a bulk source of decent
    lube that is more reasonable.  Or perhaps some alternative industrial
    lube that performs similarly?

    Elmer's rubber cement and Valvoline. Don't mix up
    the two containers, or you'll have lubricated tubes and
    a sticky chain.

    Ben

  3. Quoted message said:

    Is there a way to buy vulcanizing cement or an equivalent product in
    bulk? I'd like to be able to patch a large number of inner tubes -
    over time, not all at once, so there is concern about it going bad.

    I'm thinking along the lines of a cottage hobby doing simple repairs
    like patching flats and cleaning and lubing chains. Is there a better
    way than just buying a couple hundred patch kits?

    Also, chain lube costs about $10 / 4oz. which is $320 / gallon. I
    realize that modern lubes have complicated formulas that balance
    penetration and durability. However, is there a bulk source of decent
    lube that is more reasonable. Or perhaps some alternative industrial
    lube that performs similarly?

    thank you,
    Brett

    Dear Brett,

    Eight ounce can of Rema patch glue with brush in cap, $9.95:

    http://biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=24393435553&d=single&c=Tire-Tube&sc=Repair-Kits-and-Supplies&tc=Cement&item_id=RE-203

    A hundred small Rema patches for 700c, $14.75:

    http://biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=24393435553&d=single&c=Tire-Tube&sc=Repair-Kits-and-Supplies&tc=Patches&item_id=RE-F0P

    A hundred larger Rema patches for large tubes, $14.75:

    http://biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=24393435553&d=single&c=Tire-Tube&sc=Repair-Kits-and-Supplies&tc=Patches&item_id=RE-F1P

    I'm on my third box of patches and the same can of glue.

    Keep in mind that most bike shops just replace punctured tubes. A new
    bike tube is so cheap and quick that it makes more sense for a
    business than patching.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

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    Also, chain lube costs about $10 / 4oz. which is $320 / gallon. I
    realize that modern lubes have complicated formulas that balance
    penetration and durability.

    :-) Yep. And high tech frames balance rigidity and compliance! It's
    like magic!

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    However, is there a bulk source of decent
    lube that is more reasonable. Or perhaps some alternative industrial
    lube that performs similarly?

    Someone needs to sneak around the back of the Phil Wood factory and
    read the labels on the big 55 gallon drums. You know, the ones from
    which they fill the cute little "Tenacious Oil" bottles.

    My guess is that they say "Chainsaw bar & chain oil [generic]."

    - Frank Krygowski

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    Quoted message said:

    Is there a way to buy vulcanizing cement or an equivalent product in
    bulk? I'd like to be able to patch a large number of inner tubes -
    over time, not all at once, so there is concern about it going bad.

    Also, chain lube costs about $10 / 4oz. which is $320 / gallon.

    Hey, way hard requirements:

    http://www.dickblick.com/zz239/03/ 8 ounces less than $4 This is like glue -
    man.
    Regular motor oil is great for a chain and costs a couple of bucks for
    enough to last the rest of your life.

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    Quoted message said:

    Is there a way to buy vulcanizing cement or an equivalent product in
    bulk? I'd like to be able to patch a large number of inner tubes -
    over time, not all at once, so there is concern about it going bad.

    Take an old inner tube and cut it into patches. Use rubber cement
    from the office supply store. It's exactly the same stuff in the tube
    patch kits.

    Ted


  7. Quoted message said:

    Also, chain lube costs about $10 / 4oz.  which is $320 / gallon.  I
    realize that modern lubes have complicated formulas that balance
    penetration and durability.  However, is there a bulk source of decent
    lube that is more reasonable.  Or perhaps some alternative industrial
    lube that performs similarly?

    thank you,
    Brett

    A home brew lube that is popular on another cycling forum is comprised
    of one part synthetic motor oil to 3 or 4 parts odorless mineral
    spirits. The OMS acts as a thinning agent and carrier to aid in the
    lube penetrating the chain. If you commit a full quart of oil, you
    can produce a gallon of lube for about $10.

    Pat Clancy

  8. Quoted message said:

    Is there a way to buy vulcanizing cement or an equivalent product in
    bulk?  I'd like to be able to patch a large number of inner tubes -
    over time, not all at once, so there is concern about it going bad.

    I'm thinking along the lines of a cottage hobby doing simple repairs
    like patching flats and cleaning and lubing chains.  Is there a better
    way than just buying a couple hundred patch kits?

    Also, chain lube costs about $10 / 4oz.  which is $320 / gallon.  I
    realize that modern lubes have complicated formulas that balance
    penetration and durability.  However, is there a bulk source of decent
    lube that is more reasonable.  Or perhaps some alternative industrial
    lube that performs similarly?

    thank you,
    Brett

    I ride quite a bit on dusty gravel roads and have had good results
    with motorcycle chain lubes. Two that I have used successfully are
    Amsoil Heavy Duty Metal Protector and Maxima Chain Wax. They penetrate
    the links then dry to a waxy coating after 20 minutes or so that does
    not attract dust nearly as much as a wet lube. A can lasts for a long
    time on a bicycle.

    Smokey

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