Walking with Wainright

"Chris Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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What a load of old tosh. I still can't work out who the
programme was aimed at. It seemed to be self-indulgent
drivel.

Oh the beautiful irony of having a woman presenter.
The cantankerous old git will have been spinning in
his grave :-D

Chris

Not to mention the hardly subliminal messages that it's OK to walk alone to
one's first peak in the Lake District. But then she wasn't really walking
alone because she had at least a camera (wo)man with her, and a noisy
helicopter spoiling the solitude. So that's alright then?
(Wainright's very first guides were on sale in Grasmere when I was there on
my first visit.)

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M Stewart
Milton Keynes, UK

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Malcolm Stewart wrote

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Not to mention the hardly subliminal messages that it's OK to walk alone
to one's first peak in the Lake District.

....without a map (!!!)

'...I'm just trying to work out what that big hill over there is...'

FFS <sound of hand slapping forehead>

Chris

Malcolm Stewart said:

"Chris Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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What a load of old tosh. I still can't work out who the
programme was aimed at. It seemed to be self-indulgent
drivel.

Well it seems you aren't in the target group. You'd better not watch
any more. :-)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Oh the beautiful irony of having a woman presenter.
The cantankerous old git will have been spinning in
his grave :-D

Quoted message said:

Not to mention the hardly subliminal messages that it's OK to walk alone to
one's first peak in the Lake District. But then she wasn't really walking
alone because she had at least a camera (wo)man with her, and a noisy
helicopter spoiling the solitude. So that's alright then?

In a later programme she does a spiel to camera and they pull out on
the zoom to reveal the hangers on....

....including an elfin saftey bod.

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(Wainright's very first guides were on sale in Grasmere when I was there on
my first visit.)

I have always thought of Wainwright guides as being pretty to look at
but limited by their being out of date. Now I'm buying the new Jesty
updates as the are published. I may even do some walking in the Lakes
now :-)
--
Phil Cook, last hill: Heron Pike via Nab Scar.

In message <[email hidden]>, Chris Gilbert
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

What a load of old tosh. I still can't work out who the
programme was aimed at. It seemed to be self-indulgent
drivel.

Oh the beautiful irony of having a woman presenter.
The cantankerous old git will have been spinning in
his grave :-D

Chris

There's a story that the cantankerous old git used to tell his wife he
was spending a night in the hills and in fact spent it with his
girlfriend (his second wife). Sensible bloke. For some unknown reason my
wife won't let me have a girlfriend to take into the hills......

I quite enjoyed the series. I haven't been up to the Lakes for a couple
of years and I feel inspired to get back there, even though I was at the
doctors the other morning and he calmly informed me that someone was
going to have to look inside one of my knee joints, sounds painful.

Regards,
--
Neil Pugh

Chris Gilbert said:

What a load of old tosh. I still can't work out who the
programme was aimed at. It seemed to be self-indulgent
drivel.

Hey, it's TV. They're trying to appeal to a wider audience. If they aimed it
purely at hardcore peak-baggers, they'd get hardly any viewers, so they'd
never make any more.

A bit like the film Gerry...

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Oh the beautiful irony of having a woman presenter.
The cantankerous old git will have been spinning in
his grave :-D

Would he really? Would he hate the modern commercialist presentation? Or
would he appreciate the continued interest in his lifelong work? Doesn't the
end justify the means?

It certainly got me interested, and I've never even been there.

Paul
--
http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk

Neil Pugh said:

For some unknown reason
my wife won't let me have a girlfriend to take into the hills......

A girlfriend to take into the hills? That's quite a rarity!

In my experience you have to drag them...

Paul
--
http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk

Paul Saunders said:

It certainly got me interested, and I've never even been there.

I've been past it many times on the M6 on the way to Scotland, but I've
usually got my foot planted firmly on the pedal by then and don't want
to break my journey 'till I'm over the Border!

The impression I've got (probably false) about the Lake District, is
that it's not very big and generally crowded.

Jim Ford

On Apr 6, 10:13 pm, "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]>

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Neil Pugh said:

For some unknown reason
my wife won't let me have a girlfriend to take into the hills......

A girlfriend to take into the hills? That's quite a rarity!

In my experience you have to drag them...

You need a different class of girlfriend. And no, mine's not
available.

--
"Press all the keys together to continue."

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Paul Saunders said:

Neil Pugh said:

For some unknown reason
my wife won't let me have a girlfriend to take into the hills......

A girlfriend to take into the hills? That's quite a rarity!

In my experience you have to drag them...

One not quite girlfriend complained about every stone just going over
Catbells. I've been hoping for years to meet my ideal lass on the fells,
to no avail.

--
Simon Challands

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Jim Ford said:

The impression I've got (probably false) about the Lake District, is
that it's not very big and generally crowded.

It's the best place in the country IMO, but unfortunately lots of it are
far too crowded. There are some bits that are quiet at any time, and are
worth going to (I find back O'Skiddaw pleasant), but they are far from being
the highlights.

Wait until the middle of summer and set off at 3 - 4 o'clock and you can
still get an excellent walk in and get quiet into the bargain, as well as
some good sunsets. The same might be true for first thing in the morning,
but I'm not so good at them!

--
Simon Challands

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Phil Cook said:

I have always thought of Wainwright guides as being pretty to look at
but limited by their being out of date. Now I'm buying the new Jesty
updates as the are published. I may even do some walking in the Lakes
now :-)

I view the Jesty version as rather sacriligeous. I'll take the original
Wainwright guides as being a good general description, and use the OS and
random other sources of information for anything significant that's changed
(of which there isn't really all that much that isn't obvious when you're
there). The majority of changes are along the lines of the "no path but
recommended route has turned into National Trust roadbuilding monstrosity"
variety :-( Although I note with interest that he marks a level in Coniston
Copper Mines as being there when there's not much sign of it now, and
everyone I've spoken to has known it to be collapsed as far as they can
remember.

--
Simon Challands

Simon Challands schrieb:

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I view the Jesty version as rather sacriligeous.

I fully agree.

Quoted message said:

I'll take the original
Wainwright guides as being a good general description, and use the OS and
random other sources of information for anything significant that's changed
(of which there isn't really all that much that isn't obvious when you're
there). The majority of changes are along the lines of the "no path but
recommended route has turned into National Trust roadbuilding monstrosity"
variety

I bought the first copy of my Wainwright books during my first visit in
the Lake District in 1983 because I thought I would need a guidebook for
the ascent of my first lakeland mountain Coniston Old Man. And I have
used them ever since. Although there are some changes they are obvious:
an "unoccupied farmhouse" is occupied now - or there isn't a house
anymore. A "gate between small/young oaks" is a gate between big trees
now. That's all. I never failed to find my way using the books - walls
and becks are still there, tarns are still there and even the mountains
are still there :o)

Walter
--
Ich muß zur Alzheimerselbsthilfegruppe.
Ich hab aber vergessen, wo das ist.

Paul Saunders schrieb:

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Hey, it's TV. They're trying to appeal to a wider audience.

I hope they won't.

Walter
--
Gut: Deine Tochter hat einen neuen Job
Schlecht: als Prostituierte
Hässlich: Deine Mitarbeiter sind Ihre Kunden
und Sie verdient mehr als Du.

Simon Challands said:

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The impression I've got (probably false) about the Lake District, is
that it's not very big and generally crowded.

It's the best place in the country IMO, but unfortunately lots of it are
far too crowded.

In England, probably - but there's much bigger, higher and less crowded
across the Border.

Jim Ford

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Simon Challands said:

Quoted message said:

The impression I've got (probably false) about the Lake District, is
that it's not very big and generally crowded.

It's the best place in the country IMO, but unfortunately lots of it are
far too crowded.

In England, probably - but there's much bigger, higher and less crowded
across the Border.

Jim Ford

It's hard to compare ELD with Scotland. I do both. I really enjoy the ELD,
and don't mind too much with crowds. In fact most of the southern Scottish
Highlands (Ben Lomand to Nevis) are more crowded then the Lakes in summer.

I've had this argument many times in my life "what's better? Wales, Scotland
or the ELD?" Over the years I've gradually said.....The English Lake
District, so there. This is my opinion and mine alone and a very personnal
matter after over 35 years walking.

Jhimmy

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"Chris Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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What a load of old tosh. I still can't work out who the
programme was aimed at. It seemed to be self-indulgent
drivel.

Oh the beautiful irony of having a woman presenter.
The cantankerous old git will have been spinning in
his grave :-D

Chris

Not to mention the hardly subliminal messages that it's OK to walk alone
to one's first peak in the Lake District. But then she wasn't really
walking alone because she had at least a camera (wo)man with her, and a
noisy helicopter spoiling the solitude. So that's alright then?
(Wainright's very first guides were on sale in Grasmere when I was there
on my first visit.)

--
M Stewart
Milton Keynes, UK

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And what's wrong with walking on your own.

Mike Mason

Simon Challands <[email hidden]> writes

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Paul Saunders said:

Neil Pugh said:

For some unknown reason
my wife won't let me have a girlfriend to take into the hills......

A girlfriend to take into the hills? That's quite a rarity!

In my experience you have to drag them...

One not quite girlfriend complained about every stone just going over
Catbells. I've been hoping for years to meet my ideal lass on the fells,
to no avail.

My wife and kids had to be dragged out after kitting them all out, and
we managed the OM of Coniston, and Kinder, then I gave up.

For some 33 years (with breaks) I have walked with one woman who is
independent and not interested in blokes apart from friendship.
My wife knew that and went to see her mum on Sundays. :-)

After my wife died a girl friend begged me to take her out walking after
one stroll in the mud at the bottom of Derwent reservoir during a
drought (1996?). That lasted over two years. My next lady friend
was strictly high heels and frocks until we started seeing each other,
and now she does fairly easy walks with me.

Now I have joined up with the original one for mid-week walks and take
Mavis on Sundays. We are all three walking together on Tuesday . . .

Have any of you guys tried using Lynx deodorant? ;-)

PS: Back to topic, - I would have thought that anyone who loved the
Lakes would have enjoyed the programmes as much as I did....
--
Gordon H
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Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> writes

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It certainly got me interested, and I've never even been there.

Paul

It's a long drive for you, Paul, but one visit and I was hooked.
My one regret is that the party of four who drove up there every two
weeks broke down because one guy dropped out, and it was too expensive
for the rest of us...
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Gordon H
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On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 10:58:48 +0200, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Walter_Jann=E9?=
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Gut: Deine Tochter hat einen neuen Job
Schlecht: als Prostituierte
Hässlich: Deine Mitarbeiter sind Ihre Kunden
und Sie verdient mehr als Du.

What's the German for ROFL?

--
Tim Jackson
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