Water Bottle Solutions?

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Hi,

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima
frame and there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I
would prefer to avoid wearing a hydration pack -- what
possible solutions are there for keeping water on the
frame? Are there any brands of cages that can attach
without the requisite mounts?

I've seen brackets that bolt around the frame tubes and
have the mounts for bottle cages on. I think on SJS
Cycles' website.

Profile makes the "Aqua Rack" where you clamp it onto the
seatpost and the cages sit behind the saddle. I use it for
really long race/rides so I can get 4 bottles on the bike
without having to keep any in my jersey. I think it's about
US $30 including the cages...

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Quoted message said:

Hi,

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima
frame and there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I
would prefer to avoid wearing a hydration pack -- what
possible solutions are there for keeping water on the
frame? Are there any brands of cages that can attach
without the requisite mounts?

Thanks.

Quoted message said:

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima
frame and there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I
would prefer to avoid wearing a hydration pack -- what
possible solutions are there for keeping water on the
frame? Are there any brands of cages that can attach
without the requisite mounts?

Any cage can be attached with two big jubilee clips over the
positions where the bolts would go.
--
David Damerell <[email hidden]>
Distortion Field!

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Quoted message said:

Hi,

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima
frame and there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I
would prefer to avoid wearing a hydration pack -- what
possible solutions are there for keeping water on the
frame? Are there any brands of cages that can attach
without the requisite mounts?

Thanks.

Hose clamps (used to secure coolant hoses to a car's
radiator) work quite nicely with any water bottle cage I've
seen. Put a layer of electrician's tape around the frame
tube before installing the clamp if you're worried about
marring the paint.
--
mark

Quoted message said:

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima
frame and there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I
would prefer to

avoid

Quoted message said:

wearing a hydration pack -- what possible solutions are
there for keeping water on the frame? Are there any brands
of cages that can attach without the requisite mounts?

If it has round tubes Zefal Gizmo's are the nicest solution:
yellowjersey.orgGIZMO.JPGOpen ↗

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Quoted message said:

Hi,

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima
frame and there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I
would prefer to

avoid

Quoted message said:

wearing a hydration pack -- what possible solutions are
there for keeping water on the frame? Are there any brands
of cages that can attach without the requisite mounts?

Thanks.

In article <[email hidden]>,

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Are there any brands of cages that can attach without the
requisite mounts?

See twofishunlimited.combike.htmlOpen ↗

They appear to have two styles now, one with a stainless
steel cage, and an older one with a plastic cage. I've used
the older plastic cage successfully, but I've never seen the
new stainless steel cages in person.

Quoted message said:

Hi,

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima
frame and there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I
would prefer to avoid wearing a hydration pack -- what
possible solutions are there for keeping water on the
frame? Are there any brands of cages that can attach
without the requisite mounts?

The are purpose-made band-on bottle cage bosses, which any
good bike shop should have. I used them for a while (with
bits of old inner tube underneath to protect the frame) and
they were absolutely fine.

Dave said:

Profile makes the "Aqua Rack" where you clamp it onto the
seatpost and the cages sit behind the saddle. I use it for
really long race/rides so I can get 4 bottles on the bike
without having to keep any in my jersey. I think it's
about US $30 including the cages...

Do you actually like those Profile cages? I was looking at
one of those Aqua Rack's in the store last weekend, but it
seemed to me that the cages held the standard size bottles
just waaay too tightly. (Unless I'm being stupid, and it's
made for those new smaller bottles?)

may have said:

Hi,

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima
frame and there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I
would prefer to avoid wearing a hydration pack -- what
possible solutions are there for keeping water on the
frame? Are there any brands of cages that can attach
without the requisite mounts?

This depends on your level of acceptance for inelegant
engineering and/or your availability of a rivnut setter.

The classic solution is to add the mounts by installing
rivnuts. This is not always practical advice.

The lowest-tech solution is to use a pair of automotive
heater hose clamps to mount the water bottle cage to the
frame. It's not elegant, it can tear up the paint, and
unless a band of innertube is wrapped around the frame tube
inside each well-tightened clamp, the cage will tend to
rotate out of position at the most infuriating (and possibly
hazardous) moment. I mention this technique only because you
have indicated that this is not a high-budget project.

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processed in a facility that contains nuts.

Actually, they work pretty well. I use all std size bottles,
large and small ones. The cages hold it snugly, but not too
tight. I actually like it that I can put my hand behind my
back, grab the bottle, and it slips in nicely when I put it
back. Much more of a smooth and natural motion I think, than
reaching down to the seat or downtube cage and then getting
it back in there. Took a little getting used to in finding
it to put it back, but I like it in general.

The biggest problem is that some of the guys I race with
keep calling me a tri geek and making fun of it ;-)

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Dave said:

Profile makes the "Aqua Rack" where you clamp it onto
the seatpost and the cages sit behind the saddle. I use
it for really long race/rides so I can get 4 bottles on
the bike without having to keep any in my jersey. I
think it's about US $30 including the cages...

Do you actually like those Profile cages? I was looking at
one of those Aqua Rack's in the store last weekend, but it
seemed to me that the cages held the standard size bottles
just waaay too tightly. (Unless I'm being stupid, and it's
made for those new smaller bottles?)

Although the OP has indicated he would prefer not to wear a
hydration pack, I would like to say that since I started
using a Camelbak Rocket about 2 months ago, I have found
hydration much easier and more efficient. When the hose is
just inches from your mouth it is so much easier to stay
properly hydrated. With bottles I always found I had to
stop, fuel up and then go again. This broke down the rhythm
of the ride and it was deffo a case of too much not often
enough. Little and often is the way and a hydration pack
really does help this IMHO.

Quoted message said:

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima
frame and there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I
would prefer to avoid wearing a hydration pack -- what
possible solutions are there for keeping water on the
frame? Are there any brands of cages that can attach
without the requisite mounts?

Riders managed for years before brazed-in mounts became
popular. Zefal has a nice unit for that:
yellowjersey.orgbottle.htmlOpen ↗

last photo on that page

--
Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1
April, 1971

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Dave said:

Profile makes the "Aqua Rack" where you clamp it onto
the seatpost and the cages sit behind the saddle. I use
it for really long race/rides so I can get 4 bottles on
the bike without having to keep any in my jersey. I
think it's about US $30 including the cages...

Do you actually like those Profile cages? I was looking at
one of those Aqua Rack's in the store last weekend, but it
seemed to me that the cages held the standard size bottles
just waaay too tightly. (Unless I'm being stupid, and it's
made for those new smaller bottles?)

Hi there. I have that setup and I love it. If you hit a hard
bump the bottles don't get ejected. They also allow you to
use Gatorade or Powerade bottles as well. If you find the
cages too tight for your standard bottles try removing the
rubber band around the cage lip. This will make the grip a
fair bit looser yet still hold the bottle securely. Hope
this helps. Cheers.

David Waters said:

Although the OP has indicated he would prefer not to wear a
hydration pack, I would like to say that since I started
using a Camelbak Rocket about 2 months ago, I have found
hydration much easier and more efficient. When the hose is
just inches from your mouth it is so much easier to stay
properly hydrated. With bottles I always found I had to
stop, fuel up and then go again.

Wouldn't it be easier to develop better technique? I can
easily drink from and replace a water bottle while
pedalling - much better than carrying around a big bag of
water on my back.
--
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David Damerell said:

David Waters said:

Although the OP has indicated he would prefer not to wear
a hydration pack, I would like to say that since I started
using a Camelbak Rocket about 2 months ago, I have found
hydration much easier and more efficient. When the hose is
just inches from your mouth it is so much easier to stay
properly hydrated. With bottles I always found I had to
stop, fuel up and then go again.

Wouldn't it be easier to develop better technique? I can
easily drink from and replace a water bottle while
pedalling - much better than carrying around a big bag of
water on my back.

possibly, but a hydration pack allows me to carry 3 litres
plus extra on the bike if it is a hot day. The bag gives
me a small amount of storage for energy bars, a credit
card and keys.

David Waters said:

David Damerell said:

Wouldn't it be easier to develop better technique? I can
easily drink from and replace a water bottle while
pedalling - much better than carrying around a big bag of
water on my back.

possibly, but a hydration pack allows me to carry 3 litres
plus extra on the bike if it is a hot day. The bag gives me
a small amount of storage for energy bars, a credit card
and keys.

Sounds to me like a job for a saddlebag. Then you could also
carry puncture repair materials, a cellphone, waterproofs,
locks, etc. without loading yourself down with even a scrap
of your gear, let alone three kilos of water.
--
David Damerell <[email hidden]> Kill
the tomato!

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David Waters said:

David Damerell said:

Wouldn't it be easier to develop better technique? I can
easily drink

from

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and replace a water bottle while pedalling - much better
than carrying around a big bag of water on my back.

possibly, but a hydration pack allows me to carry 3
litres plus extra on the bike if it is a hot day. The bag
gives me a small amount of storage for energy bars, a
credit card and keys.

Sounds to me like a job for a saddlebag. Then you could
also carry puncture repair materials, a cellphone,
waterproofs, locks, etc. without loading yourself down
with even a scrap of your gear, let alone three kilos
of water.
--
David Damerell <[email hidden]> Kill
the tomato!

What about the use of a hydration pack while mt biking?
Seems like it might be better to have all things
(including water) stowed away in a pack rather than
hanging off your bike.

rosco reverse-the-following'ocsor_g'@hotmail.com said:

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Sounds to me like a job for a saddlebag. Then you could
also carry puncture repair materials, a cellphone,
waterproofs, locks, etc. without loading yourself down
with even a scrap of your gear, let alone three kilos
of water.

What about the use of a hydration pack while mt biking?

That's another question altogether.
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David Waters said:

David Damerell wrote:

>Wouldn't it be easier to develop better technique? I can
>easily drink

from

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>and replace a water bottle while pedalling - much better
>than carrying around a big bag of water on my back.

possibly, but a hydration pack allows me to carry 3
litres plus extra on the bike if it is a hot day. The bag
gives me a small amount of storage for energy bars, a
credit card and keys.

Sounds to me like a job for a saddlebag. Then you could
also carry puncture repair materials, a cellphone,
waterproofs, locks, etc. without loading yourself down
with even a scrap of your gear, let alone three kilos
of water.
--
David Damerell <[email hidden]> Kill
the tomato!

What about the use of a hydration pack while mt biking?
Seems like it might be better to have all things
(including water) stowed away in a pack rather than
hanging off your bike.

I forgot to add. I do quite a lot of mt biking and this is
where the hydration pack comes into its own. Keeps the water
and the drinking nozzle well away from all the mud, which
over here in the UK can be quite plentiful! Now I have
gotten so used to using my Camelbak i just use it when I go
road riding, out of habbit as much as anything else.