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  1. As a fiscal conservative and social libertarian who has been horrified
    at Dubyuh's ill thought out Iraq debacle from Day One, I found the
    following website hugely amusing, if indeed anything about Dubyuh or
    the Iraq debacle can be found remotely amusing:

    www.SeeYaGeorge.com

    Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

    "If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret
    had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had
    been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very
    good dinner." Duncan Hines

    To reply, remove replace "spaminator" with "cox"

  2. Terry Pulliam Burd said:

    As a fiscal conservative and social libertarian who has
    been horrified at Dubyuh's ill thought out Iraq debacle
    from Day One, I found the following website hugely amusing,
    if indeed anything about Dubyuh or the Iraq debacle can be
    found remotely amusing:

    www.SeeYaGeorge.com

    LOL. There's quite a bit about Dumbyuh that can be found
    amusing...

    I like the "America's New NO C.A.R.B. Diet" T-shirt. 😉

    Thanks for the link!

    Mary

  3. Terry Pulliam Burd said:

    As a fiscal conservative and social libertarian who has
    been horrified at Dubyuh's ill thought out Iraq debacle
    from Day One, I found the following website hugely
    amusing, if indeed anything about Dubyuh or the Iraq
    debacle can be found remotely amusing:

    Quoted message said:

    www.SeeYaGeorge.com

    Hah! Wait 'til Michael Moore's film about dubya hits the
    screens on June 25th. A priview is at
    fahrenheit911.comfahrenheit911.com

  4. Try WhiteHouse.org

    www.WhiteHouse.org

  5. [email hidden] got [censored] and typed
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Terry Pulliam Burd said:

    As a fiscal conservative and social libertarian who has
    been horrified at Dubyuh's ill thought out Iraq debacle
    from Day One, I found the following website hugely
    amusing, if indeed anything about Dubyuh or the Iraq
    debacle can be found remotely amusing:

    Quoted message said:

    www.SeeYaGeorge.com

    Hah! Wait 'til Michael Moore's film about dubya hits the
    screens on June 25th. A priview is at
    fahrenheit911.comfahrenheit911.com

    I can't wait to see it, Stan. Thanks for the link Terry. The
    no carb T was funny too.

    Michael

    --
    Deathbed statement...

    "Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
    December 12, 1968

  6. On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 22:41:19 -0500, MareCat
    <[email hidden]> arranged random neurons, so they
    looked like this:

    Quoted message said:

    LOL. There's quite a bit about Dumbyuh that can be found
    amusing...

    I like the "America's New NO C.A.R.B. Diet" T-shirt. 😉

    Thanks for the link!

    You don't have to be a Kerry fan to like this either:

    showgeorgethedoor.orgshowgeorgethedoor.org

    Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

    "Regime Change Begins At Home."

    To reply, remove replace "spaminator" with "cox"

  7. You can lick whatever you want. Personally, I prefer Ben &
    Jerry's ice cream.

    jim

    Weekend Fun wrote:

  8. The true meaning of irony:
    stickontheradio.comlesbush.jpg

    Best regards, Bob

  9. On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:40:56 GMT, "Weekend Fun"
    <[email hidden]> wrote

    Is Monica coming back to D.C.? Pan Ohco

  10. No thanks. I wouldn't want to catch something, like terminal
    oligarchism.

    --

    Certainty of death. Small chance of success. What are we
    waiting for?

    Gimli, son of Gloín

  11. zxcvbob <[email hidden]> wrote in news:2id192FlieblU1@uni-
    berlin.de:

    Quoted message said:

    stickontheradio.comlesbush.jpg

    Thirteen funny

    --

    Certainty of death. Small chance of success. What are we
    waiting for?

    Gimli, son of Gloín

  12. I will second that! Plus all that cocaine breath!!!!

    Michel Boucher said:

    No thanks. I wouldn't want to catch something, like
    terminal oligarchism.

  13. On 06/06/2004 8:41 AM, in article
    [email hidden], "Michel Boucher"
    <[email hidden]> opined:

    Quoted message said:

    zxcvbob <[email hidden]> wrote in news:2id192FlieblU1@uni-
    berlin.de:

    Quoted message said:

    stickontheradio.comlesbush.jpg

    Thirteen funny

    Michel, I have to admit I fell out of my chair laughing and
    I AM A BUSH FAN!
    --
    ==========================================================================

    "If George W. Bush announced that a cure for cancer had been
    discovered,
    Democrats would complain about unemployed laboratory rats,"
    Ann Coulter.
    ==========================================================================

  14. On 06/06/2004 7:58 PM, in article [email hidden],
    "Dolkian" <[email hidden]> opined:

    Quoted message said:

    I will second that! Plus all that cocaine breath!!!!

    Michel Boucher said:

    No thanks. I wouldn't want to catch something, like
    terminal oligarchism.



    A fancy word for a moron who doesn't understand the US
    constitution series of checks & balances.

    Just one more jealous cannuck.
    --
    =====================================================================

    "New Orleans food is as delicious as the less criminal forms
    of sin." -- Mark Twain, 1884
    =====================================================================

  15. As a Independent voter,i think Moore is a anti-
    American idiot.

  16. edition.cnn.comun.book

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (T) said:

    And why can't we drill for oil in ANWR? ANWR consist
    of 19 million acres,only 2000 acres is needed for
    drilling.Oil reserves in ANWR are estimated to be in
    the billions of barrels (geologist,not
    Bush).pollution?well Russian explorers noted oil
    seeping to the surface in many sites in the present
    ANWR,natives in that area used to cut out blocs of oil
    soaked tundra to use as fuel for heating/cooking.One
    village of 200 natives is the only inhabitants in
    ANWR.You want to make the people who hate us richer?
    Then go right ahead,it will come back to haunt us in
    the not too distant future.

    Just raising fuel economy standards would save far more oil
    than ANWR could produce. If the CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel
    Economy) for new cars, SUVs and other light trucks was
    raised to an average of 40 miles per gallon over the next 10
    years, it would save nearly 2 million barrels per day in
    2012 and nearly 4 mbd by 2020. According to the Dept. of
    Energy, we import 2.3 million barrels a day from the Persian
    Gulf, out of 11.727 mbd gross imports. Therefore, raising
    our fuel economy standards would save more than we import
    from the Persian Gulf. And raising the CAFE would not only
    reduce our dependence on foreign oil, it would result in
    cleaner air.

    "Only 2000 acres" is also disingenuous, as it disregards the
    roads that would have to be built, the pipelines, production
    facilities, discharges, etc.

    The inflated figures for the oil deposits is also a red
    herring, as it relates to what is called "technically
    recoverable oil," which refers to the amount of oil that
    could be recovered WITHOUT REGARD TO COST. The mean amount
    of *economically recoverable oil* is 3.2 billion barrels.
    The US consumes 20 million barrels a day, meaning that ANWR
    would only yield a little over 5 months worth of oil. If we
    tried to stretch that out over a measly five years, that's
    1,753,425 barrels, about 9% of daily use, which wouldn't put
    a dent in crude prices, even assuming our production costs
    were lower than what OPEC would be charging. (Oil reserve
    figures from the U.S. Geological Survey).

    By contrast, the Persian Gulf contains around 674 billion
    barrels of proven oil reserves; even at the most optimistic
    estimates, ANWR reserves are a drop in the bucket, and would
    have a minimal effect on the price of crude.

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  18. T said:

    As a Independent voter,i think Moore is a anti-American
    idiot.


    Wow!! So, you think your drivel is thinking?
    --
    Alan

    "If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the relig-
    ion, and avoid the people, you might better stay home."
    -- James Michener

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (T) said:

    As a Independent voter,i think Moore is a anti-American
    idiot.

    What makes him anti-American? Because he doesn't agree with
    the current administration? A democracy depends upon
    dissenters.

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  20. (T) said:

    And why can't we drill for oil in ANWR? ANWR consist of
    19 million acres,only 2000 acres is needed for
    drilling.

    False. The 2000 acres refers to what is called "footprint",
    and is a measure of what the North Slope Borough can levy a
    property tax on. It does *not* include garbage dumps,
    gravel pits, any part of a pipeline not actually touching
    the ground, roads, or parts of airports. The "footprint"
    for the Prudhoe Bay industrial complex is only about 10,000
    acres, yet it covers an area of about 10 miles deep by 100
    miles long and is one of the largest industrial complexes
    in the world.

    In fact, the "affected" part of ANWR will amount to
    virtually the entire 1,500,000 acres of the 1002 Area, the
    "coast plain".

    Quoted message said:

    Oil reserves in ANWR are estimated to be in the billions of
    barrels (geologist,not Bush).

    The USGS says there might be 7.668 billion barrels of
    technically recoverable oil in ANWR. Even at $40/barrel we
    could probably only get about 6.4 billion barrels pumped
    out. That is not exactly a huge amount of oil (Saudi Arabia
    has over 250 billion barrels of proven reserves.)

    Assuming that much is actually found, adding it to the
    market would amount to about a 1% increase in the supply of
    crude, and might result in a 50 cents per barrel drop in the
    price. That works out to about 4 cents per gallon for
    gasoline at the pump for you.

    Which is to say, it won't have a significant economic effect
    on US dependence on foreign crude, nor will it really affect
    how much it cost you to drive your car. It *will* do two
    things though! It will provide many billions of dollars to
    the multinational oil companies, and a few billions of
    dollars to the State of Alaska.

    Hence, it is reasonable for Alaskans and British Petroleum
    stockholders and employees to push for drilling ANWR, but
    you'll get nothing out of it.

    Quoted message said:

    pollution?well Russian explorers noted oil seeping to the
    surface in many sites in the present ANWR,

    No Russian explorer ever visited ANWR. They never even
    got close!

    Quoted message said:

    natives in that area used to cut out blocs of oil soaked
    tundra to use as fuel for heating/cooking.

    Please provide a reliable cite for that. I've never heard of
    it. They used seal oil and whale oil. They were aware that
    coal burned and there are many coal deposits on the
    North Slope, but it just isn't a good as seal or whale
    oil, from their perspective.

    I've never heard of an oil seep in ANWR that could be used
    as you describe, or of anyone doing so.

    Quoted message said:

    One village of 200 natives is the only inhabitants in
    ANWR.You want to make

    Kaktovik, an Inupiat Eskimo village on Barter Island in the
    Arctic Ocean, is on the edge of ANWR. But your point is
    poorly taken. There are several Gwich'in Indian villages
    (Arctic Village, and Venetie are good examples) along the
    southern edge of ANWR, and the boundaries were chosen
    *specifically* to not include the villages but to include as
    much of the range of the Porcupine Caribou herd as possible.
    ANWR is the result of a treaty signed with Canada to protect
    the Porcupine herd because the Gwich'in (also called "The
    People of the Caribou"😉 are totally dependent upon it. There
    are also parks and refuges on the Canadian side of the
    border. There are about 9,000 Gwich'in people.

    Quoted message said:

    the people who hate us richer? Then go right ahead,it will
    come back to haunt us in the not too distant future.

    Destroying ANWR would be a disaster.

    We should note that virtually *every* caribou biologist that
    has ever done any field work with North Slope caribou says
    that oil exploration and production in ANWR would have a
    negative impact on the Porcupine Herd. You cannot find a
    single qualified biologist who will say otherwise.

    --
    FloydL. Davidson <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
    Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [email hidden]

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