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  1. Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.

    It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    included what I ate and not portion sizes.

    I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and didn't
    make healthy choices, but at least I didn't eat everything
    on my plate. I don't know what it is with me, but every time
    I go out to eat it's like it is a celebration of some sort
    for me, so I indulge and eat something that I wouldn't
    normally eat.

    How do you all deal with going out to dinner?

    Julie

  2. "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.

    A maintain is as good as a loss in this group. 3.5lbs in 3
    weeks is excellent progress.

    Quoted message said:

    It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    included what I ate and not portion sizes.

    Step one is journaling. This week work towards writing down
    the portions and points.

    Quoted message said:

    I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and
    didn't make healthy choices, but at least I didn't eat
    everything on my plate. I don't know what it is with me,
    but every time I go out to eat it's like it is a
    celebration of some sort for me, so I indulge and eat
    something that I wouldn't normally eat.

    How do you all deal with going out to dinner?

    I eat out alot-typically twice a week, sometimes more. I
    used to treat each meal as a reason to celebrate and my
    weight loss rate suffered. My current leader said that we
    should treat eating out as a replacement to eating at home.
    So unless it really is a celebration (birthday,
    anniversary, etc) make your choices just like you would at
    home. I have also stuck with a small selection of places to
    eat so I know exactly what I am getting into. I do salads,
    steaks, chicken or fish. Dressings are requested "on the
    side". I use vary little dressing (1 Tbls) so I don't use
    the "dip the fork into the dressing method" very often. If
    the meal is huge I will cut the serving in half and ask for
    a to-go container before I start eating. That way I prevent
    myself from eating too much.

    Just remember that WW is a WOL not a diet. As time goes by
    you will learn little tricks and gain good, healthy habits.
    At our meeting yesterday we were reminded that it takes 21
    days to make or break a habit. So give yourself time. Take
    one step at a time. Make small changes each week. Make
    changes that you can live with the rest of your life. Give
    yourself time to 'learn' these new habits. Give yourself
    time to 'unlearn' old, bad ones.

  3. Maintaining is not gaining. And you're still here, reading
    and posting. Keeping track of everything you eat is a huge,
    positive step. Give yourself a hug for doing that. Can you
    do new one new thing this week? If not, that's OK. There's
    always next week.

    I don't eat out very much at all, so when I do I tend to
    go overboard. Recently, though, I treated myself to
    Subway three days in a row. Thought I was making good
    choices but forgot, until the 3rd day, to tell them to
    skip the sauce entirely. I'm still not able to eat half a
    6" sub and save the rest for dinner. That week I
    maintained. So I'm back to my usual lunch. In other
    words, I stay away from eating out unless it's a special
    occasion. I've still got LOTS to learn.

    Good luck figuring it all out. Linda P

    skiur said:

    Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.

    It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    included what I ate and not portion sizes.

    I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and
    didn't make healthy choices, but at least I didn't eat
    everything on my plate. I don't know what it is with me,
    but every time I go out to eat it's like it is a
    celebration of some sort for me, so I indulge and eat
    something that I wouldn't normally eat.

    How do you all deal with going out to dinner?

    Julie

  4. remind yourself that eating is not a celebration, a special event is the
    celebration, eating is a normal body function, the reason to be out makes it
    a party, and if you are celebrating, the focus needs to be on the reason you
    are celebrating, birthday person and similar, eating is just that, keep
    reminding yourself. I think that you are journalling is excellent, remember
    baby steps are good, you are going forward and that is very exciting, Lee
    skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.

    It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    included what I ate and not portion sizes.

    I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and
    didn't make healthy choices, but at least I didn't eat
    everything on my plate. I don't know what it is with me,
    but every time I go out to eat it's like it is a
    celebration of some sort for me, so I indulge and eat
    something that I wouldn't normally eat.

    How do you all deal with going out to dinner?

    Julie

  5. Great work!

    "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vv-cnYlgF_8fG8nd3cwC-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.

    It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    included what I ate and not portion sizes.

    I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and
    didn't make healthy choices, but at least I didn't eat
    everything on my plate. I don't know what it is with me,
    but every time I go out to eat it's like it is a
    celebration of some sort for me, so I indulge and eat
    something that I wouldn't normally eat.

    How do you all deal with going out to dinner?

    Julie

  6. skiur said:

    Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.

    It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    included what I ate and not portion sizes.

    I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and
    didn't make healthy choices, but at least I didn't eat
    everything on my plate. I don't know what it is with me,
    but every time I go out to eat it's like it is a
    celebration of some sort for me, so I indulge and eat
    something that I wouldn't normally eat.

    How do you all deal with going out to dinner?

    Julie

    Congrats on the maintain!!

    --

    Cheers,

    Connie Walsh

    241.5/197/155 RAFL 210.5/197/198.5 50 lbs off
    241.5/197/191.5

  7. Maintaining is a good thing, congrats!

    Eating out can be difficult. I guess you have to retrain
    your way of thinking. Try to plan ahead if you can, have an
    idea in your head as to what you will order ... and stick to
    it. I found that if I convinced myself early in the day that
    I was going to have fish or chicken ... then it really did
    sound good when I got to the restaurant (kind of like
    planning dinner ahead). When I am handed the menu, I don't
    usually read the whole thing ... I go right to the seafood
    or poultry sections, or look for the *heart healthy* type
    sections ... don't even look at the appetizers or deserts.
    If I don't give myself the chance to think about it, I don't
    cave in or change my mind. Maybe you need to move out of the
    celebration frame of mind ... or at least making the food
    the celebration. Focus more on WHY you are out, the food is
    only extra. Enjoy the occassion and the company, they are
    the highlight of the occassion ... not the food. And don't
    ever be afraid to make special requests, such as eliminating
    an item from the dish (if it's not their you can't eat it).
    I haven't found a restaurant yet that has been unwilling to
    substitute or make changes for me. My family has gotten so
    used to my requests now, it's second nature. Hub loves to go
    out to breakfast Sunday morning ... we do it maybe once or
    twice a month. I have no problem asking for my omelet to be
    made with egg substitute. It isn't any different than a
    person that has an allergy to specific items.

    Joyce

    skiur said:

    Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.

    It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    included what I ate and not portion sizes.

    I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and
    didn't make healthy choices, but at least I didn't eat
    everything on my plate. I don't know what it is with me,
    but every time I go out to eat it's like it is a
    celebration of some sort for me, so I indulge and eat
    something that I wouldn't normally eat.

    How do you all deal with going out to dinner?

    Julie

  8. Congrats on the maintain, Julie. As for going out to dinner,
    I stick with grilled and baked things rather than fried.
    Lots of veggies and as little bread as possible.

    --

    ~Kristin O~
    272/235.2/172

    "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vv-cnYlgF_8fG8nd3cwC-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.

    It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    included what I ate and not portion sizes.

    I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and
    didn't make healthy choices, but at least I didn't eat
    everything on my plate. I don't know what it is with me,
    but every time I go out to eat it's like it is a
    celebration of some sort for me, so I indulge and eat
    something that I wouldn't normally eat.

    How do you all deal with going out to dinner?

    Julie

  9. -) The perfectionist in me would have thrown in the towel
    this week, but the perfectionist is tied up at the moment.

    My initial reaction to treating a meal out as a normal meal
    is to say "what's the point of going out". I'll have to
    think about this one for a while. I've always seen going out
    as something that boosts the spirits.

    I'm also working on that "eat to live" not "live to eat"
    mentality and I'm finding that I need a hobby that I can
    justify with a need. (Example, we need to eat to survive so
    my hobby is cooking.) This hobby has to be apartment
    friendly. When I lived near my parents my hobby was working
    on various house things in addition to the cooking *grin*.

    Julie

    "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PP%4c.13509$Pa7.352275@bgtnsc05-
    news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

    Quoted message said:

    "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vv-cnYlgF_8fG8nd3cwC-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.

    A maintain is as good as a loss in this group. 3.5lbs in 3
    weeks is excellent progress.

    Quoted message said:

    It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    included what I


    ate

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and not portion sizes.

    Step one is journaling. This week work towards writing
    down the portions


    and

    Quoted message said:

    points.

    Quoted message said:

    I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and
    didn't make


    healthy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    choices, but at least I didn't eat everything on my
    plate. I don't know what it is with me, but every time I
    go out to eat it's like it is a celebration of some sort
    for me, so I indulge and eat something that I wouldn't
    normally eat.

    How do you all deal with going out to dinner?

    I eat out alot-typically twice a week, sometimes more. I
    used to treat


    each

    Quoted message said:

    meal as a reason to celebrate and my weight loss rate
    suffered. My current leader said that we should treat
    eating out as a replacement to eating at home. So unless
    it really is a celebration (birthday, anniversary, etc)


    make

    Quoted message said:

    your choices just like you would at home. I have also
    stuck with a small selection of places to eat so I know
    exactly what I am getting into. I do salads, steaks,
    chicken or fish. Dressings are requested "on the side". I
    use vary little dressing (1 Tbls) so I don't use the "dip
    the fork into


    the

    Quoted message said:

    dressing method" very often. If the meal is huge I will
    cut the serving in half and ask for a to-go container
    before I start eating. That way I


    prevent

    Quoted message said:

    myself from eating too much.

    Just remember that WW is a WOL not a diet. As time goes by
    you will learn little tricks and gain good, healthy
    habits. At our meeting yesterday we were reminded that it
    takes 21 days to make or break a habit. So give yourself
    time. Take one step at a time. Make small changes each
    week. Make changes that you can live with the rest of your
    life. Give yourself time


    to

    Quoted message said:

    'learn' these new habits. Give yourself time to 'unlearn'
    old, bad ones.

  10. Thanks Linda. I am still amazed at how many calories are in
    convenience foods. I'm not surprised at all that there are
    many of us with weight problems in part due to convenience
    foods. I try to find the balance in everything we do these
    days and cooking healthier and it's just not easy.

    Julie

    "Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Maintaining is not gaining. And you're still here, reading
    and posting. Keeping track of everything you eat is a
    huge, positive step. Give yourself a hug for doing that.
    Can you do new one new thing this week? If not, that's OK.
    There's always next week.

    I don't eat out very much at all, so when I do I tend to
    go overboard. Recently, though, I treated myself to
    Subway three days in a row. Thought I was making good
    choices but forgot, until the 3rd day, to tell them to
    skip the sauce entirely. I'm still not able to eat half a
    6" sub and save the rest for dinner. That week I
    maintained. So I'm back to my usual lunch. In other
    words, I stay away from eating out unless it's a special
    occasion. I've still got LOTS to learn.

    Good luck figuring it all out. Linda P

    skiur said:

    Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.

    It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    included what I ate and not portion sizes.

    I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and
    didn't make healthy choices, but at least I didn't eat
    everything on my plate. I don't know what it is with me,
    but every time I go out to eat it's like it is a
    celebration of some sort for me, so I indulge and eat
    something that I wouldn't normally eat.

    How do you all deal with going out to dinner?

    Julie

  11. Thanks Lee.

    Sometimes I feel like I'm taking steps back. I'm feeling
    that way today and I'm not enjoying it much. I'm not giving
    up though and that in itself is a big step. Apparently, I
    don't have the perfectionist tied up well enough....musta
    broke through the duct tape.

    Julie

    "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    remind yourself that eating is not a celebration, a
    special event is the celebration, eating is a normal body
    function, the reason to be out makes


    it

    Quoted message said:

    a party, and if you are celebrating, the focus needs to be
    on the reason


    you

    Quoted message said:

    are celebrating, birthday person and similar, eating is
    just that, keep reminding yourself. I think that you are
    journalling is excellent,


    remember

    Quoted message said:

    baby steps are good, you are going forward and that is
    very exciting, Lee skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.

    It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    included what I


    ate

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and not portion sizes.

    I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and
    didn't make


    healthy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    choices, but at least I didn't eat everything on my
    plate. I don't know what it is with me, but every time I
    go out to eat it's like it is a celebration of some sort
    for me, so I indulge and eat something that I wouldn't
    normally eat.

    How do you all deal with going out to dinner?

    Julie


  12. Good ideas. Thank you.

    I'm working on focusing my attention on healthier foods, but
    it's slow going. I like doing the substitutes before the
    food arrives because it's much easier not to eat the junk
    that way. The desserts are hard to deal with since dh has a
    second stomach specifically for desserts *rolls eyes*.

    Julie "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Maintaining is a good thing, congrats!

    Eating out can be difficult. I guess you have to retrain
    your way of


    thinking.

    Quoted message said:

    Try to plan ahead if you can, have an idea in your head as
    to what you


    will order

    Quoted message said:

    ... and stick to it. I found that if I convinced myself
    early in the day


    that I

    Quoted message said:

    was going to have fish or chicken ... then it really did
    sound good when I


    got to

    Quoted message said:

    the restaurant (kind of like planning dinner ahead). When
    I am handed the


    menu, I

    Quoted message said:

    don't usually read the whole thing ... I go right to the
    seafood or


    poultry

    Quoted message said:

    sections, or look for the *heart healthy* type sections
    ... don't even


    look at the

    Quoted message said:

    appetizers or deserts. If I don't give myself the chance
    to think about


    it, I

    Quoted message said:

    don't cave in or change my mind. Maybe you need to move
    out of the


    celebration

    Quoted message said:

    frame of mind ... or at least making the food the
    celebration. Focus more


    on WHY

    Quoted message said:

    you are out, the food is only extra. Enjoy the occassion
    and the company,


    they

    Quoted message said:

    are the highlight of the occassion ... not the food. And
    don't ever be


    afraid to

    Quoted message said:

    make special requests, such as eliminating an item from
    the dish (if it's


    not

    Quoted message said:

    their you can't eat it). I haven't found a restaurant yet
    that has been


    unwilling

    Quoted message said:

    to substitute or make changes for me. My family has gotten
    so used to my


    requests

    Quoted message said:

    now, it's second nature. Hub loves to go out to breakfast
    Sunday morning


    ... we

    Quoted message said:

    do it maybe once or twice a month. I have no problem
    asking for my omelet


    to be

    Quoted message said:

    made with egg substitute. It isn't any different than a
    person that has


    an

    Quoted message said:

    allergy to specific items.

    Joyce

    skiur said:

    Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.

    It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    included what I ate and not portion sizes.

    I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and
    didn't make healthy choices, but at least I didn't eat
    everything on my plate. I don't know what it is with me,
    but every time I go out to eat it's like it is a
    celebration of some sort for me, so I indulge and eat
    something that I wouldn't normally eat.

    How do you all deal with going out to dinner?

    Julie

  13. "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    :-) The perfectionist in me would have thrown in the towel
    :this week, but
    the perfectionist is tied up at the moment.

    Keep her busy. ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    My initial reaction to treating a meal out as a normal
    meal is to say "what's the point of going out". I'll have
    to think about this one for a while. I've always seen
    going out as something that boosts the spirits.

    I think this depends on why you went out to dinner in the
    first place. Many times we go out for lack of something at
    home to eat. So in this case it is a replacement meal and
    not a celebration. This happens at least once a week and is
    part of our routine. I go out with my neighbor and DH & DD
    go their own way. I might have an evening meeting to go to
    and they go shopping.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm also working on that "eat to live" not "live to eat"
    mentality and I'm finding that I need a hobby that I can
    justify with a need. (Example, we need to eat to survive
    so my hobby is cooking.) This hobby has to be apartment
    friendly. When I lived near my parents my hobby was
    working on various house things in addition to the
    cooking *grin*.

    My hobbies include committee work for our homeowner's
    association and the internet. I'm not very domestic at all
    so cooking is out.

  14. Simple it is. Easy it ain't.

    skiur said:

    Thanks Linda. I am still amazed at how many calories are in
    convenience foods. I'm not surprised at all that there are
    many of us with weight problems in part due to convenience
    foods. I try to find the balance in everything we do these
    days and cooking healthier and it's just not easy.

    Julie

    "Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Maintaining is not gaining. And you're still here,
    reading and posting. Keeping track of everything you eat
    is a huge, positive step. Give yourself a hug for doing
    that. Can you do new one new thing this week? If not,
    that's OK. There's always next week.

    I don't eat out very much at all, so when I do I tend to
    go overboard. Recently, though, I treated myself to
    Subway three days in a row. Thought I was making good
    choices but forgot, until the 3rd day, to tell them to
    skip the sauce entirely. I'm still not able to eat half a
    6" sub and save the rest for dinner. That week I
    maintained. So I'm back to my usual lunch. In other
    words, I stay away from eating out unless it's a special
    occasion. I've still got LOTS to learn.

    Good luck figuring it all out. Linda P

    skiur said:

    Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.

    It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    included what I ate and not portion sizes.

    I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and
    didn't make healthy choices, but at least I didn't eat
    everything on my plate. I don't know what it is with me,
    but every time I go out to eat it's like it is a
    celebration of some sort for me, so I indulge and eat
    something that I wouldn't normally eat.

    How do you all deal with going out to dinner?

    Julie



    Linda P
    232/158/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

  15. when you do take a step backwards, use it as G*d intended, as a way to look
    all around for the big picture. Don't bother trying to tie her up, she will
    always get free, try and occupy her, that works, for me, sometimes,
    somewhat... LOL, seriously, being a fanatic about the journal and meeting
    attendance has really cut down the ability for perfectionist tendencies to
    allow me to self sabotage. good luck, Lee
    skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks Lee.

    Sometimes I feel like I'm taking steps back. I'm feeling
    that way today


    and

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not enjoying it much. I'm not giving up though and
    that in itself is


    a

    Quoted message said:

    big step. Apparently, I don't have the perfectionist tied
    up well enough....musta broke through the duct tape.

    Julie

    "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    remind yourself that eating is not a celebration, a
    special event is the celebration, eating is a normal
    body function, the reason to be out


    makes

    Quoted message said:

    it

    Quoted message said:

    a party, and if you are celebrating, the focus needs to
    be on the reason


    you

    Quoted message said:

    are celebrating, birthday person and similar, eating is
    just that, keep reminding yourself. I think that you are
    journalling is excellent,


    remember

    Quoted message said:

    baby steps are good, you are going forward and that is
    very exciting,


    Lee

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vv-cnYlgF_8fG8nd3cwC-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.

    It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    included what I


    ate

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and not portion sizes.

    I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and
    didn't make


    healthy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    choices, but at least I didn't eat everything on my
    plate. I don't


    know

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    what it is with me, but every time I go out to eat
    it's like it is a celebration of some sort for me, so
    I indulge and eat something that I wouldn't normally
    eat.

    How do you all deal with going out to dinner?

    Julie



  16. Is there any way you could tell hub how much those deserts
    bother you? Maybe he wouldn't mind waiting until he is at
    home to have his treat, and you could have something that is
    more within your eating limits. I was lucky in that
    department. Hub likes his sweets, as do I - but neither one
    of us really care much for them immediately after a meal.
    We're more apt to have that treat a bit later in the
    evening. Otherwise, maybe hub would just let you have a bite
    or two of his desert instead of ordering an entire portion
    for yourself. Other than that, it's sheer willpower. <G>

    Joyce

    skiur said:

    Good ideas. Thank you.

    I'm working on focusing my attention on healthier
    foods, but it's slow going. I like doing the
    substitutes before the food arrives because it's much
    easier not to eat the junk that way. The desserts are
    hard to deal with since dh has a second stomach
    specifically for desserts *rolls eyes*.

    Julie "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Maintaining is a good thing, congrats!

    Eating out can be difficult. I guess you have to retrain
    your way of


    thinking.

    Quoted message said:

    Try to plan ahead if you can, have an idea in your head
    as to what you


    will order

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    ... and stick to it. I found that if I convinced myself
    early in the day


    that I

    Quoted message said:

    was going to have fish or chicken ... then it really did
    sound good when I


    got to

    Quoted message said:

    the restaurant (kind of like planning dinner ahead). When
    I am handed the


    menu, I

    Quoted message said:

    don't usually read the whole thing ... I go right to the
    seafood or


    poultry

    Quoted message said:

    sections, or look for the *heart healthy* type sections
    ... don't even


    look at the

    Quoted message said:

    appetizers or deserts. If I don't give myself the chance
    to think about


    it, I

    Quoted message said:

    don't cave in or change my mind. Maybe you need to move
    out of the


    celebration

    Quoted message said:

    frame of mind ... or at least making the food the
    celebration. Focus more


    on WHY

    Quoted message said:

    you are out, the food is only extra. Enjoy the occassion
    and the company,


    they

    Quoted message said:

    are the highlight of the occassion ... not the food. And
    don't ever be


    afraid to

    Quoted message said:

    make special requests, such as eliminating an item from
    the dish (if it's


    not

    Quoted message said:

    their you can't eat it). I haven't found a restaurant yet
    that has been


    unwilling

    Quoted message said:

    to substitute or make changes for me. My family has
    gotten so used to my


    requests

    Quoted message said:

    now, it's second nature. Hub loves to go out to breakfast
    Sunday morning


    ... we

    Quoted message said:

    do it maybe once or twice a month. I have no problem
    asking for my omelet


    to be

    Quoted message said:

    made with egg substitute. It isn't any different than a
    person that has


    an

    Quoted message said:

    allergy to specific items.

    Joyce

    skiur said:

    Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.

    It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    included what I ate and not portion sizes.

    I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and
    didn't make healthy choices, but at least I didn't eat
    everything on my plate. I don't know what it is with me,
    but every time I go out to eat it's like it is a
    celebration of some sort for me, so I indulge and eat
    something that I wouldn't normally eat.

    How do you all deal with going out to dinner?

    Julie


  17. "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:H_qcnajUSagiOsnd3cwC-
    [email hidden]...

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    :-) The perfectionist in me would have thrown in the
    :towel this week,


    but

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    the perfectionist is tied up at the moment.

    Keep her busy. ;-)

    She's a tricky one to keep buys.

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    My initial reaction to treating a meal out as a normal
    meal is to say "what's the point of going out". I'll
    have to think about this one for


    a

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    while. I've always seen going out as something that
    boosts the spirits.

    I think this depends on why you went out to dinner in the
    first place.


    Many

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    times we go out for lack of something at home to eat. So
    in this case it


    is

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    a replacement meal and not a celebration. This happens at
    least once a


    week

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    and is part of our routine. I go out with my neighbor and
    DH & DD go their own way. I might have an evening meeting
    to go to and they go shopping.

    Most of the time we go out to dinner because I'm just not
    interested in cooking. I'm usually bored of whatever we have
    around the house for dinner and need a meal change. You
    bring up a good question that I'll have to think about.

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    I'm also working on that "eat to live" not "live to eat"
    mentality and


    I'm

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    finding that I need a hobby that I can justify with a
    need. (Example,


    we

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    need to eat to survive so my hobby is cooking.) This
    hobby has to be apartment friendly. When I lived near my
    parents my hobby was working


    on

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    various house things in addition to the cooking *grin*.

    My hobbies include committee work for our homeowner's
    association and the internet. I'm not very domestic at all
    so cooking is out.

  18. I think I may have figured out something about my maintain.
    I didn't understand how the scale could be up but the jeans
    were still not a battle to put on this morning. Then I
    really looked at everything I was eating and you would not
    imagine how much salt is in my food.

    We had sushi last night (with soy, of course) and in general
    food has been asian style so probably too much sodium in
    everything. *sigh* It's a shame all that salty stuff tastes
    so good to me right now.

    Julie

    "Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Simple it is. Easy it ain't.

    skiur said:

    Thanks Linda. I am still amazed at how many calories are
    in convenience foods. I'm not surprised at all that there
    are many of us with weight problems in part due to
    convenience foods. I try to find the balance in
    everything we do these days and cooking healthier and
    it's just not easy.

    Julie

    "Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Maintaining is not gaining. And you're still here,
    reading and posting. Keeping track of everything you
    eat is a huge, positive step. Give yourself a hug for
    doing that. Can you do new one new thing this week? If
    not, that's OK. There's always next week.

    I don't eat out very much at all, so when I do I tend
    to go overboard. Recently, though, I treated myself to
    Subway three days in a row. Thought I was making good
    choices but forgot, until the 3rd day, to tell them to
    skip the sauce entirely. I'm still not able to eat half
    a 6" sub and save the rest for dinner. That week I
    maintained. So I'm back to my usual lunch. In other
    words, I stay away from eating out unless it's a
    special occasion. I've still got LOTS to learn.

    Good luck figuring it all out. Linda P

    On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 10:09:17 -0600, "skiur"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.
    >
    >It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    >included what I


    ate

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    Quoted message said:
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    >and not portion sizes.
    >
    >I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and
    >didn't make


    healthy

    Quoted message said:
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    >choices, but at least I didn't eat everything on my
    >plate. I don't


    know

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    >what it is with me, but every time I go out to eat
    >it's like it is a celebration of some sort for me, so
    >I indulge and eat something that I wouldn't normally
    >eat.
    >
    >How do you all deal with going out to dinner?
    >
    >Julie
    >


    Linda P
    232/158/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

  19. Probably, but if he has something at home then I really want
    something too and it's usually what he's having *grin*.

    It'll be a willpower issue I'm sure.

    "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Is there any way you could tell hub how much those deserts
    bother you?


    Maybe he

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    wouldn't mind waiting until he is at home to have his
    treat, and you could


    have

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    something that is more within your eating limits. I was
    lucky in that


    department.

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    Hub likes his sweets, as do I - but neither one of us
    really care much for


    them

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    immediately after a meal. We're more apt to have that
    treat a bit later


    in the

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    evening. Otherwise, maybe hub would just let you have a
    bite or two of


    his desert

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    instead of ordering an entire portion for yourself. Other
    than that, it's


    sheer

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    willpower. <G>

    Joyce

    skiur said:

    Good ideas. Thank you.

    I'm working on focusing my attention on healthier foods,
    but it's slow going. I like doing the substitutes before
    the food arrives because it's much easier not to eat the
    junk that way. The desserts are hard to deal with since
    dh has a second stomach specifically for desserts *rolls


    eyes*.

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    Julie "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Maintaining is a good thing, congrats!

    Eating out can be difficult. I guess you have to
    retrain your way of


    thinking.

    Quoted message said:

    Try to plan ahead if you can, have an idea in your head
    as to what you


    will order

    Quoted message said:

    ... and stick to it. I found that if I convinced myself
    early in the


    day

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that I

    Quoted message said:

    was going to have fish or chicken ... then it really
    did sound good


    when I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    got to

    Quoted message said:

    the restaurant (kind of like planning dinner ahead).
    When I am handed


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    menu, I

    Quoted message said:

    don't usually read the whole thing ... I go right to
    the seafood or


    poultry

    Quoted message said:

    sections, or look for the *heart healthy* type sections
    ... don't even


    look at the

    Quoted message said:

    appetizers or deserts. If I don't give myself the
    chance to think


    about

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it, I

    Quoted message said:

    don't cave in or change my mind. Maybe you need to move
    out of the


    celebration

    Quoted message said:

    frame of mind ... or at least making the food the
    celebration. Focus


    more

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    on WHY

    Quoted message said:

    you are out, the food is only extra. Enjoy the
    occassion and the


    company,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    they

    Quoted message said:

    are the highlight of the occassion ... not the food.
    And don't ever be


    afraid to

    Quoted message said:

    make special requests, such as eliminating an item from
    the dish (if


    it's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not

    Quoted message said:

    their you can't eat it). I haven't found a restaurant
    yet that has


    been

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    unwilling

    Quoted message said:

    to substitute or make changes for me. My family has
    gotten so used to


    my

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    requests

    Quoted message said:

    now, it's second nature. Hub loves to go out to
    breakfast Sunday


    morning

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ... we

    Quoted message said:

    do it maybe once or twice a month. I have no problem
    asking for my


    omelet

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to be

    Quoted message said:

    made with egg substitute. It isn't any different than a
    person that


    has

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    an

    Quoted message said:

    allergy to specific items.

    Joyce

    On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 10:09:17 -0600, "skiur"
    <[email hidden]>


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    >Maintained this week. Total loss to date, 3.5 lbs.
    >
    >It was a rough week. I journaled this week, but only
    >included what I


    ate

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >and not portion sizes.
    >
    >I went out to lunch at work a few times this week and
    >didn't make


    healthy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >choices, but at least I didn't eat everything on my
    >plate. I don't


    know

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >what it is with me, but every time I go out to eat
    >it's like it is a celebration of some sort for me, so
    >I indulge and eat something that I wouldn't normally
    >eat.
    >
    >How do you all deal with going out to dinner?
    >
    >Julie
    >

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