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  1. Wegmans Sets Standards for Shrimp
    http://tinyurl.com/2557ou

    NY Times article:

    WEGMANS has announced that it will become the first supermarket chain to
    adopt strict environmental and health standards for the farmed shrimp it
    will sell in its stores.

    For their shrimp to be certified for the supermarket, suppliers will not be
    allowed to use any antibiotics, pesticides or fungicides.

    --
    Dee Dee
    "A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy
    enough people to make it worth the effort.”

  2. On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 23:38:44 -0400, "Dee.Dee" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Wegmans Sets Standards for Shrimp
    http://tinyurl.com/2557ou

    NY Times article:

    WEGMANS has announced that it will become the first supermarket chain to
    adopt strict environmental and health standards for the farmed shrimp it
    will sell in its stores.

    For their shrimp to be certified for the supermarket, suppliers will not be
    allowed to use any antibiotics, pesticides or fungicides.

    Probably as effective as the ban on lead paint in kids toys.

    Lou

  3. "Lou Decruss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 23:38:44 -0400, "Dee.Dee" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Wegmans Sets Standards for Shrimp
    http://tinyurl.com/2557ou

    NY Times article:

    WEGMANS has announced that it will become the first supermarket chain to
    adopt strict environmental and health standards for the farmed shrimp it
    will sell in its stores.

    For their shrimp to be certified for the supermarket, suppliers will not
    be
    allowed to use any antibiotics, pesticides or fungicides.

    Probably as effective as the ban on lead paint in kids toys.

    Lou

    Don't be so sure. Wegman's is big enough that they can consume the entire
    production capacity of some of its suppliers. Then, they call all the shots,
    which includes having people on site often enough to prevent cheating. When
    you've got a permanent customer and no further need for a sales staff, you
    tend to behave.

  4. JoeSpareBedroom said:

    "Lou Decruss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 23:38:44 -0400, "Dee.Dee" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Wegmans Sets Standards for Shrimp
    http://tinyurl.com/2557ou

    NY Times article:

    WEGMANS has announced that it will become the first supermarket chain to
    adopt strict environmental and health standards for the farmed shrimp it
    will sell in its stores.

    For their shrimp to be certified for the supermarket, suppliers will not
    be
    allowed to use any antibiotics, pesticides or fungicides.

    Probably as effective as the ban on lead paint in kids toys.

    Lou

    Don't be so sure. Wegman's is big enough that they can consume the entire
    production capacity of some of its suppliers. Then, they call all the shots,
    which includes having people on site often enough to prevent cheating. When
    you've got a permanent customer and no further need for a sales staff, you
    tend to behave.

    They don't have people on site. You think Wegman's is bigger than the
    toy companies who have had the massive recalls. Haven't you been
    reading the papers?

    Although sometimes the same suppliers are used for foodstuffs, very
    often for this type of item, the sale goes to whatever wholesaler is
    cheapest that day, who may be carrying shrimp from any number of
    farmers, almost all from overseas and near impossible to monitor.

    Oh...and go read up on farmed shrimp in general.

    Boron

  5. JoeSpareBedroom said:

    Don't be so sure. Wegman's is big enough that they can consume the entire
    production capacity of some of its suppliers. Then, they call all the shots,
    which includes having people on site often enough to prevent cheating. When
    you've got a permanent customer and no further need for a sales staff, you
    tend to behave.

    Depends, Does Wegmans allow their suppliers to make a normal profit?
    That same scenario applies to outfits like Walmart but they are well
    known for beating up their suppliers which leads to stuff like melamine
    flavored pet food.

  6. "Boron Elgar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    "Lou Decruss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 23:38:44 -0400, "Dee.Dee" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    >Wegmans Sets Standards for Shrimp
    >http://tinyurl.com/2557ou
    >
    >NY Times article:
    >
    >WEGMANS has announced that it will become the first supermarket chain to
    >adopt strict environmental and health standards for the farmed shrimp it
    >will sell in its stores.
    >
    >For their shrimp to be certified for the supermarket, suppliers will not
    >be
    >allowed to use any antibiotics, pesticides or fungicides.

    Probably as effective as the ban on lead paint in kids toys.

    Lou

    Don't be so sure. Wegman's is big enough that they can consume the entire
    production capacity of some of its suppliers. Then, they call all the
    shots,
    which includes having people on site often enough to prevent cheating.
    When
    you've got a permanent customer and no further need for a sales staff, you
    tend to behave.

    They don't have people on site. You think Wegman's is bigger than the
    toy companies who have had the massive recalls. Haven't you been
    reading the papers?

    No, I've never heard of the toy recalls involving China, or the lead paint
    problem. I thought lead paint was good for kids.

  7. George said...

    Quoted message said:
    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    Don't be so sure. Wegman's is big enough that they can consume the
    entire production capacity of some of its suppliers. Then, they call
    all the shots, which includes having people on site often enough to
    prevent cheating. When you've got a permanent customer and no further
    need for a sales staff, you tend to behave.

    Depends, Does Wegmans allow their suppliers to make a normal profit?
    That same scenario applies to outfits like Walmart but they are well
    known for beating up their suppliers which leads to stuff like melamine
    flavored pet food.

    Since Wegmans is basically a northeast chain they "might" have a better
    chance of succeeding in this endeavor. Unlike the nationwide chains like
    Walmart, Albertsons, etc.

    One only hopes it's an ongoing effort not expiring on Christmas.

    I'd be interested to know if the farms are stateside or where. China farms
    the largest population of catfish in the world and we all know their track
    record for safety.

    Again, it sounds good in theory.

    Andy

  8. "George" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    Don't be so sure. Wegman's is big enough that they can consume the entire
    production capacity of some of its suppliers. Then, they call all the
    shots, which includes having people on site often enough to prevent
    cheating. When you've got a permanent customer and no further need for a
    sales staff, you tend to behave.

    Depends, Does Wegmans allow their suppliers to make a normal profit? That
    same scenario applies to outfits like Walmart but they are well known for
    beating up their suppliers which leads to stuff like melamine flavored pet
    food.

    Wegman's has a pretty good reputation among its suppliers.

    Also:

    http://www.wegmans.com/about/pressRoom/pressReleases/ethicsAward.asp

    http://www.wegmans.com/about/pressRoom/pressReleases/fortune100Best2007.asp

    Of course, this being a newsgroup, the cited information is meaningless
    because there aren't enough messages in this thread yet.

  9. "George" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    Don't be so sure. Wegman's is big enough that they can consume the entire
    production capacity of some of its suppliers. Then, they call all the
    shots, which includes having people on site often enough to prevent
    cheating. When you've got a permanent customer and no further need for a
    sales staff, you tend to behave.

    Depends, Does Wegmans allow their suppliers to make a normal profit? That
    same scenario applies to outfits like Walmart but they are well known for
    beating up their suppliers which leads to stuff like melamine flavored pet
    food.

    Hmm -- beating up ... suppliers... leads to ... melamine flavored pet food?

    Dee Dee

  10. "Dee.Dee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "George" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    Don't be so sure. Wegman's is big enough that they can consume the
    entire production capacity of some of its suppliers. Then, they call all
    the shots, which includes having people on site often enough to prevent
    cheating. When you've got a permanent customer and no further need for a
    sales staff, you tend to behave.

    Depends, Does Wegmans allow their suppliers to make a normal profit? That
    same scenario applies to outfits like Walmart but they are well known for
    beating up their suppliers which leads to stuff like melamine flavored
    pet food.

    Hmm -- beating up ... suppliers... leads to ... melamine flavored pet
    food?

    Dee Dee

    Sometimes. What does it sound unlikely to you?

  11. Dee.Dee said:


    Hmm -- beating up ... suppliers... leads to ... melamine flavored pet food?

    Dee Dee

    This is a well known method used by Walmart. Lets say you make "Happy
    Pet" pet food and I am Walmart and account for a large proportion of
    your sales. I order 1 million cases at a time and pay you $5.00/case.
    The next time you mention that supplies and overhead have gone up in
    cost and you need $5.10/case. I tell you that if you want to continue to
    do business with me you will sell for $4.90/case. You then cut corners
    maybe removing benefits from employees. The next time it is the same. I
    tell you I will give you $4.75/case. So you decide to use cheaper
    ingredients and adjust the formulation.

    Time goes on. If you were a manufacturer of higher value goods you
    probably threw your employees under the bus and moved off shore by now
    but that doesn't work with low value heavy stuff such as dog food. So
    the only way you can stay in business is to keep cutting corners by
    buying supplies from less reputable sources which eventually leads to
    scenarios such as the buyer who was looking for cheap gluten and got a
    "good deal" on the low quality stuff that was doctored with melamine.

  12. JoeSpareBedroom said:

    Don't be so sure. Wegman's is big enough that they can consume the entire
    production capacity of some of its suppliers. Then, they call all the shots,
    which includes having people on site often enough to prevent cheating. When
    you've got a permanent customer and no further need for a sales staff, you
    tend to behave.

    But you're probably only selling one kind of shrimp.

    -sw

  13. "Sqwertz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    Don't be so sure. Wegman's is big enough that they can consume the entire
    production capacity of some of its suppliers. Then, they call all the
    shots,
    which includes having people on site often enough to prevent cheating.
    When
    you've got a permanent customer and no further need for a sales staff,
    you
    tend to behave.

    But you're probably only selling one kind of shrimp.

    -sw

    ¿Que? Not sure I see the point.

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