Weight Watchers

"Susan Duffy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Has anyone used weight watchers to lose weight and keep their sugar down? I'm having trouble
losing weight. I'm sick of eggs meat and cheese, and

if

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I add any sugar or carbs it goes up.

Both my brother and his wife are on Weight Watchers. He is type 2 and she has prediabetes. He eats
mostly salads, and has gone off his diabetes meds, but hasn't really lost any weight. She has lost a
ton of weight, but is also able to eat more carbs than I could. I do not think the diet would work
for me. But we're all different.

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How much weight are you trying to loose? How fast? Weight Watchers is expensive and hard to stay on
even when it works.

I think I've heard that if you are on a low-carb diet and then add carbs in any amount they stick to
you like glue. Even if its not that often. Thats the downside of low-carb diets is that you can't
eat carbs or you'll gain weight? Could someone confirm or refute this?

Vince

"Susan Duffy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Has anyone used weight watchers to lose weight and keep their sugar down? I'm having trouble
losing weight. I'm sick of eggs meat and cheese, and

if

Quoted message said:

I add any sugar or carbs it goes up. Suzz

Weight Watchers was originally developed by a woman for her diabetic husband. It has done wonders
for me in terms of weight loss and bg control. However, the group leader seems to be a key
ingredient.

WW also has an internet program, however I believe the group meeting time is more important.

Susan Duffy said:

Has anyone used weight watchers to lose weight and keep their sugar down? I'm having trouble
losing weight. I'm sick of eggs meat and cheese, and if I add any sugar or carbs it goes up. Suzz

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Thank you to all, I really appreciate the info. I was asked how much I wanted to lose, it is 50
pounds. After I made my post, I found the weight watcher site and emailed them. I got a response
today, it was a nice email and the basics read: The FlexPoints Plan is designed for people without
medical conditions such as yours. Your health care professional will be able to determine what
adaptations are needed for you, and can tell you what is needed if you can indeed follow our
program. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this email, let me know and I will send it
to you. again, thank you to all, Suzz

"Susan Duffy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Has anyone used weight watchers to lose weight and keep their sugar down? I'm having trouble
losing weight. I'm sick of eggs meat and cheese, and

if

Quoted message said:

I add any sugar or carbs it goes up. Suzz

Susan Duffy said:

Has anyone used weight watchers to lose weight and keep their sugar down? I'm having trouble losing
weight. I'm sick of eggs meat and cheese, and if I add any sugar or carbs it goes up. Suzz

Find that the weight watchres products are completely wrong for me as a type 2 diabetic. Their
yoghurt may be low fat but instead they have added sugar. Their tv-dinners (or lunchboxes as we
call them) is 50 % carbs and not enough fibres. They recomend rice cakes a s a snack, way too fast
carbs for me.

Their basic idea with low fat and plenty of vegetables is good but it has to be adapted for a
diabetic. At least that is my point of view.

/Erika

The first ten years of your life you try to be just like your parents. Then for then years you try
to be as little as your parents as possible. Then you gradually change in to them.

Marshall said:

Weight Watchers was originally developed by a woman for her diabetic husband.

Not true. Though it may work for you and your diabetes, WW was founded by a fat housewife in NYC.
And the first WW plan was pretty low in carbs, though it wasn't called that at the time. Starches
were limited.

dwlz.comhistoryofww.htmlOpen ↗

The History of Weight Watchers

In September 1961, an overweight woman from Queens, New York, called a group of friends over to her
house and confessed that eating cookies was her obsession. Her name was Jean Nidetch, and with that
first admission she discovered that one of the most effective keys to weight control are "empathy,
rapport and mutual understanding." Her discovery resulted in a seventy pound weight loss and one of
the most successful weight-control organizations in the world - Weight Watchers.

It all began when Jean, a 214-pound housewife who wore a size 44 dress, became discouraged by years
of fad dieting. Desperate to lose weight, Jean attended a free diet clinic sponsored by the New York
City Board of Health. Sticking grimly to their diet, Jean managed to lose 20 pounds, but then found
her motivation waning. That's when she picked up the phone, called a few overweight friends, and
made her "cookie confession." Her friends not only understood, they shared their "Frankensteins"
too, as Jean called their food obsessions.

After that, the women came to Jean's house each week for mutual support and sharing. They all lost
weight, and the word spread. Soon, Jean was squeezing 40 people into her apartment. Together, they
came to realize that losing weight was more than just a diet. It was all about changing habits and
getting support and encouragement from people who cared.

Today, more than 41 years later, Weight Watchers still cares. It was this caring that enabled Jean's
"little group" to expand into an industry. The first steps came when Jean began holding meetings at
other people's houses. Two of these people, Albert and Felice Lippert, suggested that Jean set up
weekly classes at a business location.

Quoted message said:

It has done wonders for me in terms of weight loss and bg control. However, the group leader seems
to be a key ingredient.

WW also has an internet program, however I believe the group meeting time is more important.

Susan Duffy said:

Has anyone used weight watchers to lose weight and keep their sugar down? I'm having trouble
losing weight. I'm sick of eggs meat and cheese, and if I add any sugar or carbs it goes up. Suzz

I do not use their food products, except for an occasional Smoothie mixed with fat free yogurt.
However, the journaling and meetings are the key for me.

Erika said:

Susan Duffy said:

Has anyone used weight watchers to lose weight and keep their sugar down? I'm having trouble
losing weight. I'm sick of eggs meat and cheese, and if I add any sugar or carbs it goes up. Suzz

Find that the weight watchres products are completely wrong for me as a type 2 diabetic. Their
yoghurt may be low fat but instead they have added sugar. Their tv-dinners (or lunchboxes as we
call them) is 50 % carbs and not enough fibres. They recomend rice cakes a s a snack, way too
fast carbs for me.

Their basic idea with low fat and plenty of vegetables is good but it has to be adapted for a
diabetic. At least that is my point of view.

/Erika

The first ten years of your life you try to be just like your parents. Then for then years you try
to be as little as your parents as possible. Then you gradually change in to them.

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I think that the analogy should not be made that a "healthy diet" for a diabetic is necessarily what
every person should follow, nor that a "healthy diet" for a normal person is suitable for a
diabetic. I come across plenty of products in the supermarket which loudly advertise "low fat",
"reduced fat", "healthy", "low calorie", etc., but, as you mention, are loaded with sugar and carbs
that would make my bg rocket. Even "Low GI" foods should not be trusted.

Also I wouldn't necessarily expect non-diabetics to need to low-carb if their weight and health
is normal.

--
Henry

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Susan Duffy said:

Has anyone used weight watchers to lose weight and keep their sugar down? I'm having trouble
losing weight. I'm sick of eggs meat and cheese, and

if

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I add any sugar or carbs it goes up. Suzz

Find that the weight watchres products are completely wrong for me as a type 2 diabetic. Their
yoghurt may be low fat but instead they have added sugar. Their tv-dinners (or lunchboxes as we
call them) is 50 % carbs and not enough fibres. They recomend rice cakes a s a snack, way too
fast carbs for me.

Their basic idea with low fat and plenty of vegetables is good but it has to be adapted for a
diabetic. At least that is my point of view.

/Erika

The first ten years of your life you try to be just like your parents. Then for then years you try
to be as little as your parents as possible. Then you gradually change in to them.

From a research point of view: dwlz.comhistoryofww.htmlOpen ↗ is not a valid source.

For starters look for .edu or .org in the web address.

jmtc.
🙂

Jennifer said:

Marshall said:

Weight Watchers was originally developed by a woman for her diabetic husband.

Not true. Though it may work for you and your diabetes, WW was founded by a fat housewife in NYC.
And the first WW plan was pretty low in carbs, though it wasn't called that at the time. Starches
were limited.

dwlz.comhistoryofww.htmlOpen ↗

The History of Weight Watchers

In September 1961, an overweight woman from Queens, New York, called a group of friends over to
her house and confessed that eating cookies was her obsession. Her name was Jean Nidetch, and with
that first admission she discovered that one of the most effective keys to weight control are
"empathy, rapport and mutual understanding." Her discovery resulted in a seventy pound weight loss
and one of the most successful weight-control organizations in the world - Weight Watchers.

It all began when Jean, a 214-pound housewife who wore a size 44 dress, became discouraged by
years of fad dieting. Desperate to lose weight, Jean attended a free diet clinic sponsored by the
New York City Board of Health. Sticking grimly to their diet, Jean managed to lose 20 pounds, but
then found her motivation waning. That's when she picked up the phone, called a few overweight
friends, and made her "cookie confession." Her friends not only understood, they shared their
"Frankensteins" too, as Jean called their food obsessions.

After that, the women came to Jean's house each week for mutual support and sharing. They all lost
weight, and the word spread. Soon, Jean was squeezing 40 people into her apartment. Together, they
came to realize that losing weight was more than just a diet. It was all about changing habits and
getting support and encouragement from people who cared.

Today, more than 41 years later, Weight Watchers still cares. It was this caring that enabled
Jean's "little group" to expand into an industry. The first steps came when Jean began holding
meetings at other people's houses. Two of these people, Albert and Felice Lippert, suggested that
Jean set up weekly classes at a business location.

Quoted message said:

It has done wonders for me in terms of weight loss and bg control. However, the group leader
seems to be a key ingredient.

WW also has an internet program, however I believe the group meeting time is more important.

Susan Duffy said:

Has anyone used weight watchers to lose weight and keep their sugar down? I'm having
trouble losing weight. I'm sick of eggs meat and cheese, and if I add any sugar or carbs it
goes up. Suzz

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The original source was: Changing Times, August 1989 v43 n8 p88(1)

Change agents; Jean Nidetch knew that Weight Watchers' success hinged on more than a diet. Dan
Moreau; Jennifer Cliff.

Plagiarism?

Marshall said:

From a research point of view: dwlz.comhistoryofww.htmlOpen ↗ is not a valid source.

For starters look for .edu or .org in the web address.

jmtc.
🙂

Jennifer said:

Marshall said:

Weight Watchers was originally developed by a woman for her diabetic husband.

Not true. Though it may work for you and your diabetes, WW was founded by a fat housewife in NYC.
And the first WW plan was pretty low in carbs, though it wasn't called that at the time. Starches
were limited.

dwlz.comhistoryofww.htmlOpen ↗

The History of Weight Watchers

In September 1961, an overweight woman from Queens, New York, called a group of friends over to
her house and confessed that eating cookies was her obsession. Her name was Jean Nidetch, and
with that first admission she discovered that one of the most effective keys to weight control
are "empathy, rapport and mutual understanding." Her discovery resulted in a seventy pound weight
loss and one of the most successful weight-control organizations in the world - Weight Watchers.

It all began when Jean, a 214-pound housewife who wore a size 44 dress, became discouraged by
years of fad dieting. Desperate to lose weight, Jean attended a free diet clinic sponsored by the
New York City Board of Health. Sticking grimly to their diet, Jean managed to lose 20 pounds, but
then found her motivation waning. That's when she picked up the phone, called a few overweight
friends, and made her "cookie confession." Her friends not only understood, they shared their
"Frankensteins" too, as Jean called their food obsessions.

After that, the women came to Jean's house each week for mutual support and sharing. They all
lost weight, and the word spread. Soon, Jean was squeezing 40 people into her apartment.
Together, they came to realize that losing weight was more than just a diet. It was all about
changing habits and getting support and encouragement from people who cared.

Today, more than 41 years later, Weight Watchers still cares. It was this caring that enabled
Jean's "little group" to expand into an industry. The first steps came when Jean began holding
meetings at other people's houses. Two of these people, Albert and Felice Lippert, suggested that
Jean set up weekly classes at a business location.

Quoted message said:

It has done wonders for me in terms of weight loss and bg control. However, the group leader
seems to be a key ingredient.

WW also has an internet program, however I believe the group meeting time is more important.

Susan Duffy wrote:

> Has anyone used weight watchers to lose weight and keep their sugar down? I'm having
> trouble losing weight. I'm sick of eggs meat and cheese, and if I add any sugar or carbs it
> goes up. Suzz
>
>

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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:13:53 GMT, Marshall <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

From a research point of view: dwlz.comhistoryofww.htmlOpen ↗ is not a valid source.

For starters look for .edu or .org in the web address.

What an odd thing to write. Do you mean to say that you think that a .edu or a .org suffix
automatically carries more validity than a .com suffix?

Anyway, take a look here:
weightwatchers.comcorporate history.htmlOpen ↗

I realize it is only a .com, but they might know a thing or two about the history.

-- Emil

Still can not find documentation relating to the diabetic husband, but
this was interesting:
defeatdiabetes.orgweight030409.htmOpen ↗

Marshall said:

The original source was: Changing Times, August 1989 v43 n8 p88(1)

Change agents; Jean Nidetch knew that Weight Watchers' success hinged on more than a diet. Dan
Moreau; Jennifer Cliff.

Plagiarism?

Marshall said:

From a research point of view: dwlz.comhistoryofww.htmlOpen ↗ is not a valid
source.

For starters look for .edu or .org in the web address.

jmtc.
🙂

Jennifer said:

Marshall wrote:

> Weight Watchers was originally developed by a woman for her diabetic husband.

Not true. Though it may work for you and your diabetes, WW was founded by a fat housewife in
NYC. And the first WW plan was pretty low in carbs, though it wasn't called that at the time.
Starches were limited.

dwlz.comhistoryofww.htmlOpen ↗

The History of Weight Watchers

In September 1961, an overweight woman from Queens, New York, called a group of friends over to
her house and confessed that eating cookies was her obsession. Her name was Jean Nidetch, and
with that first admission she discovered that one of the most effective keys to weight control
are "empathy, rapport and mutual understanding." Her discovery resulted in a seventy pound
weight loss and one of the most successful weight-control organizations in the world - Weight
Watchers.

It all began when Jean, a 214-pound housewife who wore a size 44 dress, became discouraged by
years of fad dieting. Desperate to lose weight, Jean attended a free diet clinic sponsored by
the New York City Board of Health. Sticking grimly to their diet, Jean managed to lose 20
pounds, but then found her motivation waning. That's when she picked up the phone, called a few
overweight friends, and made her "cookie confession." Her friends not only understood, they
shared their "Frankensteins" too, as Jean called their food obsessions.

After that, the women came to Jean's house each week for mutual support and sharing. They all
lost weight, and the word spread. Soon, Jean was squeezing 40 people into her apartment.
Together, they came to realize that losing weight was more than just a diet. It was all about
changing habits and getting support and encouragement from people who cared.

Today, more than 41 years later, Weight Watchers still cares. It was this caring that enabled
Jean's "little group" to expand into an industry. The first steps came when Jean began holding
meetings at other people's houses. Two of these people, Albert and Felice Lippert, suggested
that Jean set up weekly classes at a business location.

> It has done wonders for me in terms of weight loss and bg control. However, the group leader
> seems to be a key ingredient.
>
> WW also has an internet program, however I believe the group meeting time is more important.
>
> Susan Duffy wrote:
>
>> Has anyone used weight watchers to lose weight and keep their sugar down? I'm having trouble
>> losing weight. I'm sick of eggs meat and cheese, and if I add any sugar or carbs it goes up.
>> Suzz
>>
>>
>

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Emil Mroz said:

Marshall said:

From a research point of view: dwlz.comhistoryofww.htmlOpen ↗ is not a valid source.

For starters look for .edu or .org in the web address.

What an odd thing to write. Do you mean to say that you think that a .edu or a .org suffix
automatically carries more validity than a .com suffix?

Yep!
🙂

Though a .edu could also be suspect if it has a ~ meaning it is a folder from someone in the .edu
that does not represent the official thinking of the .edu (for example a student or staff member
using their schools .edu and posting material on it.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:15:24 GMT, Marshall <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Emil Mroz said:

Marshall said:

From a research point of view: dwlz.comhistoryofww.htmlOpen ↗ is not a valid source.

For starters look for .edu or .org in the web address.

What an odd thing to write. Do you mean to say that you think that a .edu or a .org suffix
automatically carries more validity than a .com suffix?

Yep!
🙂

Each to their own, I suppose. Myself, I've seen just as much drek come out of .edu domains as I have
out of .com domains.

-- Emil

Emil Mroz said:

Marshall said:

Emil Mroz said:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:13:53 GMT, Marshall <[email hidden]> wrote:

>From a research point of view:

>dwlz.comhistoryofww.htmlOpen ↗ is not a valid source.
>
>For starters look for .edu or .org in the web address.
>

What an odd thing to write. Do you mean to say that you think that a .edu or a .org suffix
automatically carries more validity than a .com suffix?

Yep!
🙂

Each to their own, I suppose. Myself, I've seen just as much drek come out of .edu domains as I
have out of .com domains.

-- Emil

Yep to that too!
🙂

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Quoted message said:

How much weight are you trying to loose? How fast? Weight Watchers is expensive and hard to stay on
even when it works.

I go to TOPS. A lot cheaper than WW and we have 11 of our 33 members who have gotten the weight off
and are keeping it off. The longest is 27 years. We pay $20.00 year National dues and our chapter is
$5.00 a month. Lots of good programs and support. You can use diet from doc or the ADA. Betty.