Well done Lance

Quoted message said:

Runner Bib 5K 10K 15K 20K Half 25K 30K 35K 40K Finish
LANCELOT,
SMITH 3152 0:21:14 0:42:22 1:03:42 1:25:34 1:30:18 1:47:59 2:10:13
2:32:37 2:55:54 3:05:45

All times are unofficial. Times may vary in post race official results.

Yes, very well done. If I remember right that time was what he was
shooting for. Those are some very even splits. Congratulations Lance.

Quoted message said:

Runner Bib 5K 10K 15K 20K Half 25K 30K 35K 40K Finish
LANCELOT,
SMITH 3152 0:21:14 0:42:22 1:03:42 1:25:34 1:30:18 1:47:59 2:10:13
2:32:37 2:55:54 3:05:45

All times are unofficial. Times may vary in post race official results.

Yes, very well done. If I remember right that time was what he was
shooting for. Those are some very even splits. Congratulations Lance.

Quoted message said:

Runner Bib 5K 10K 15K 20K Half 25K 30K 35K 40K Finish
LANCELOT,
SMITH 3152 0:21:14 0:42:22 1:03:42 1:25:34 1:30:18 1:47:59 2:10:13
2:32:37 2:55:54 3:05:45

All times are unofficial. Times may vary in post race official results.

Yes, very well done. If I remember right that time was what he was
shooting for. Those are some very even splits. Congratulations Lance.

Thanks. I ended up wearing the Asics Gel Kayano 12 shoe - full blown
13.oz trainer in my size. In this race, on this course,with my size/
structure - I wanted a shoe that would be less fatiguing/challening
and help/aid me on the back end of the race. For me I think it was a
good choice and worked.

I always go into the races with the wealth of experience, knowledge,
and insight I've benefitted from over the years from Doug F, Stump,
Donnie, Pendy, TomB, Tony, even Anders, well just everybody. I really
do reflect and factor in content we kick around for races. Today
rec.running was in mind with taking a sip at each water stations - a
Lava Salt at the start and midway through the race.

I'm really proud to have run rather evenly on this course - my last
half split was a +5 minutes and change. You don't see that too much
from us weekend warriors @ NYC - and that's what I take away from this
race and the 5 weeks of 100+ miles/week training. I did that
training, and wore the shoe that I did, to have stength on the back
end of this race to still be racing come miles 20+ (and not
enduring). I was racing too.... For the first time in my life i was
the guy passing up runners in the final stages and not the other way
around - that's a very empowering feeling....to just surge past
runners who've got no more gears, no more tricks in their bags.

When I hit the Half @ 1:30:18 - I thought I came out too fast and was
screwed, as a +10, +11, +12 is generally what us weekend warriors end
up with on a great day in the NYC Marathon. I just accepted I can't
change the past - and just run strong as possible - came out okay
today.

I had a good day, I think my max potential would have been about a
3:03 today - at best, I'll take the 3:05:45, I'm healthy, feel strong,
will take off 1 or 2 days and run again on Wednesday - gotta decide if
i want to run ING Miami on Jan 27. That's the other thing I got out
of this training - okay - it's not morning yet - but I don't feel too
sore, I'm sore, but not too sore. The high miles really fine tubed my
ability to run even - and I now think there's room for consideration
of wearing a trainer (stability or cushion) depending on the rigors of
the course, etc. It's not an automatic to me to alway read for my
flats for the full Marathon distance.

Still got plenty of room for improvement though - it's back to the
drawing board come later this week, I have to clock at 39:30 in the
Joe Klienerman 10K here in NYC to get a seeded bib for the SF Bay to
Breakers - we'll see.

Thanks again,
Lance

Thanks. I ended up wearing the Asics Gel Kayano 12 shoe - full blown
13.oz trainer in my size. In this race, on this course,with my size/
structure - I wanted a shoe that would be less fatiguing/challening
and help/aid me on the back end of the race. For me I think it was a
good choice and worked.

I always go into the races with the wealth of experience, knowledge,
and insight I've benefitted from over the years from Doug F, Stump,
Donnie, Pendy, TomB, Tony, even Anders, well just everybody. I really
do reflect and factor in content we kick around for races. Today
rec.running was in mind with taking a sip at each water stations - a
Lava Salt at the start and midway through the race.

I'm really proud to have run rather evenly on this course - my last
half split was a +5 minutes and change. You don't see that too much
from us weekend warriors @ NYC - and that's what I take away from this
race and the 5 weeks of 100+ miles/week training. I did that
training, and wore the shoe that I did, to have stength on the back
end of this race to still be racing come miles 20+ (and not
enduring). I was racing too.... For the first time in my life i was
the guy passing up runners in the final stages and not the other way
around - that's a very empowering feeling....to just surge past
runners who've got no more gears, no more tricks in their bags.

When I hit the Half @ 1:30:18 - I thought I came out too fast and was
screwed, as a +10, +11, +12 is generally what us weekend warriors end
up with on a great day in the NYC Marathon. I just accepted I can't
change the past - and just run strong as possible - came out okay
today.

I had a good day, I think my max potential would have been about a
3:03 today - at best, I'll take the 3:05:45, I'm healthy, feel strong,
will take off 1 or 2 days and run again on Wednesday - gotta decide if
i want to run ING Miami on Jan 27. That's the other thing I got out
of this training - okay - it's not morning yet - but I don't feel too
sore, I'm sore, but not too sore. The high miles really fine tubed my
ability to run even - and I now think there's room for consideration
of wearing a trainer (stability or cushion) depending on the rigors of
the course, etc. It's not an automatic to me to alway read for my
flats for the full Marathon distance.

Still got plenty of room for improvement though - it's back to the
drawing board come later this week, I have to clock at 39:30 in the
Joe Klienerman 10K here in NYC to get a seeded bib for the SF Bay to
Breakers - we'll see.

Thanks again,
Lance

Thanks. I ended up wearing the Asics Gel Kayano 12 shoe - full blown
13.oz trainer in my size. In this race, on this course,with my size/
structure - I wanted a shoe that would be less fatiguing/challening
and help/aid me on the back end of the race. For me I think it was a
good choice and worked.

I always go into the races with the wealth of experience, knowledge,
and insight I've benefitted from over the years from Doug F, Stump,
Donnie, Pendy, TomB, Tony, even Anders, well just everybody. I really
do reflect and factor in content we kick around for races. Today
rec.running was in mind with taking a sip at each water stations - a
Lava Salt at the start and midway through the race.

I'm really proud to have run rather evenly on this course - my last
half split was a +5 minutes and change. You don't see that too much
from us weekend warriors @ NYC - and that's what I take away from this
race and the 5 weeks of 100+ miles/week training. I did that
training, and wore the shoe that I did, to have stength on the back
end of this race to still be racing come miles 20+ (and not
enduring). I was racing too.... For the first time in my life i was
the guy passing up runners in the final stages and not the other way
around - that's a very empowering feeling....to just surge past
runners who've got no more gears, no more tricks in their bags.

When I hit the Half @ 1:30:18 - I thought I came out too fast and was
screwed, as a +10, +11, +12 is generally what us weekend warriors end
up with on a great day in the NYC Marathon. I just accepted I can't
change the past - and just run strong as possible - came out okay
today.

I had a good day, I think my max potential would have been about a
3:03 today - at best, I'll take the 3:05:45, I'm healthy, feel strong,
will take off 1 or 2 days and run again on Wednesday - gotta decide if
i want to run ING Miami on Jan 27. That's the other thing I got out
of this training - okay - it's not morning yet - but I don't feel too
sore, I'm sore, but not too sore. The high miles really fine tubed my
ability to run even - and I now think there's room for consideration
of wearing a trainer (stability or cushion) depending on the rigors of
the course, etc. It's not an automatic to me to alway read for my
flats for the full Marathon distance.

Still got plenty of room for improvement though - it's back to the
drawing board come later this week, I have to clock at 39:30 in the
Joe Klienerman 10K here in NYC to get a seeded bib for the SF Bay to
Breakers - we'll see.

Thanks again,
Lance

LSmith said:

I'm really proud to have run rather evenly on this course - my last
half split was a +5 minutes and change. You don't see that too much
from us weekend warriors @ NYC - and that's what I take away from this
race and the 5 weeks of 100+ miles/week training. I did that
training, and wore the shoe that I did, to have stength on the back
end of this race to still be racing come miles 20+ (and not
enduring). I was racing too.... For the first time in my life i was
the guy passing up runners in the final stages and not the other way
around - that's a very empowering feeling....to just surge past
runners who've got no more gears, no more tricks in their bags.

It must have been an awesome experience for you. Here's to more
good running times.

LSmith said:

I'm really proud to have run rather evenly on this course - my last
half split was a +5 minutes and change. You don't see that too much
from us weekend warriors @ NYC - and that's what I take away from this
race and the 5 weeks of 100+ miles/week training. I did that
training, and wore the shoe that I did, to have stength on the back
end of this race to still be racing come miles 20+ (and not
enduring). I was racing too.... For the first time in my life i was
the guy passing up runners in the final stages and not the other way
around - that's a very empowering feeling....to just surge past
runners who've got no more gears, no more tricks in their bags.

It must have been an awesome experience for you. Here's to more
good running times.

LSmith said:

I'm really proud to have run rather evenly on this course - my last
half split was a +5 minutes and change. You don't see that too much
from us weekend warriors @ NYC - and that's what I take away from this
race and the 5 weeks of 100+ miles/week training. I did that
training, and wore the shoe that I did, to have stength on the back
end of this race to still be racing come miles 20+ (and not
enduring). I was racing too.... For the first time in my life i was
the guy passing up runners in the final stages and not the other way
around - that's a very empowering feeling....to just surge past
runners who've got no more gears, no more tricks in their bags.

It must have been an awesome experience for you. Here's to more
good running times.

In article <[email hidden]>,

LSmith said:

I had a good day, I think my max potential would have been about a
3:03 today - at best, I'll take the 3:05:45,

And you met your goal of coming in less than an hour behind the winner.

Congratulations.

--
13.1 Because I can

In article <[email hidden]>,

LSmith said:

I had a good day, I think my max potential would have been about a
3:03 today - at best, I'll take the 3:05:45,

And you met your goal of coming in less than an hour behind the winner.

Congratulations.

--
13.1 Because I can

In article <[email hidden]>,

LSmith said:

I had a good day, I think my max potential would have been about a
3:03 today - at best, I'll take the 3:05:45,

And you met your goal of coming in less than an hour behind the winner.

Congratulations.

--
13.1 Because I can

lance said:

that's a very empowering feeling....to just surge past
runners who've got no more gears, no more tricks in their bags.

Particularly when you've really run a good race, not just sandbagged
the first half so you can pass folks who never should've been in front
of you to begin with.

Nice effin' race, lance! Seems like you put together a really well-
run one, start to finish.

And it's not only weekend warriors who tend to run positive splits;
most top guys seem to consider the NYC course to "run a little
positive", what with the Queensboro bridge and Central Park hills all
falling in the second half.

Quoted message said:

I have to clock at 39:30 in the Joe Klienerman 10K here in NYC
to get a seeded bib for the SF Bay to Breakers - we'll see.

You've run what, 40-low before? Well, your aerobic fitness will be
better than ever, and the race is far enough out that your muscles
will o be long since recovered. I'd think you have a pretty good
shot. Best of luck with that.

Oh, just out of curiosity, what did your 7-10 days before the race
look like? In hindsight would you have changed anything about your
training or taper, or was it just right?

lance said:

that's a very empowering feeling....to just surge past
runners who've got no more gears, no more tricks in their bags.

Particularly when you've really run a good race, not just sandbagged
the first half so you can pass folks who never should've been in front
of you to begin with.

Nice effin' race, lance! Seems like you put together a really well-
run one, start to finish.

And it's not only weekend warriors who tend to run positive splits;
most top guys seem to consider the NYC course to "run a little
positive", what with the Queensboro bridge and Central Park hills all
falling in the second half.

Quoted message said:

I have to clock at 39:30 in the Joe Klienerman 10K here in NYC
to get a seeded bib for the SF Bay to Breakers - we'll see.

You've run what, 40-low before? Well, your aerobic fitness will be
better than ever, and the race is far enough out that your muscles
will o be long since recovered. I'd think you have a pretty good
shot. Best of luck with that.

Oh, just out of curiosity, what did your 7-10 days before the race
look like? In hindsight would you have changed anything about your
training or taper, or was it just right?

lance said:

that's a very empowering feeling....to just surge past
runners who've got no more gears, no more tricks in their bags.

Particularly when you've really run a good race, not just sandbagged
the first half so you can pass folks who never should've been in front
of you to begin with.

Nice effin' race, lance! Seems like you put together a really well-
run one, start to finish.

And it's not only weekend warriors who tend to run positive splits;
most top guys seem to consider the NYC course to "run a little
positive", what with the Queensboro bridge and Central Park hills all
falling in the second half.

Quoted message said:

I have to clock at 39:30 in the Joe Klienerman 10K here in NYC
to get a seeded bib for the SF Bay to Breakers - we'll see.

You've run what, 40-low before? Well, your aerobic fitness will be
better than ever, and the race is far enough out that your muscles
will o be long since recovered. I'd think you have a pretty good
shot. Best of luck with that.

Oh, just out of curiosity, what did your 7-10 days before the race
look like? In hindsight would you have changed anything about your
training or taper, or was it just right?

LSmith said:

Thanks. I ended up wearing the Asics Gel Kayano 12 shoe - full blown
13.oz trainer in my size. In this race, on this course,with my size/
structure - I wanted a shoe that would be less fatiguing/challening
and help/aid me on the back end of the race. For me I think it was a
good choice and worked.

Great race, Lance. Sounds like you were in control throughout. The 5K
splits look pretty even - 21:XX for the first half splits and 22:XX for
the second half splits. Do you have mile splits?

Quoted message said:

I always go into the races with the wealth of experience, knowledge,
and insight I've benefitted from over the years from Doug F, Stump,
Donnie, Pendy, TomB, Tony, even Anders, well just everybody. I really
do reflect and factor in content we kick around for races. Today
rec.running was in mind with taking a sip at each water stations - a
Lava Salt at the start and midway through the race.

Were you carrying any food/fuel on you? Did you take any gels?

Quoted message said:

I'm really proud to have run rather evenly on this course - my last
half split was a +5 minutes and change. You don't see that too much
from us weekend warriors @ NYC - and that's what I take away from this

C'mon, you can't call yourself a weekend warrior - what with 100 mile
weeks, week after week 🙂 How many days did you not run in the past
couple of months?

Quoted message said:

race and the 5 weeks of 100+ miles/week training. I did that
training, and wore the shoe that I did, to have stength on the back
end of this race to still be racing come miles 20+ (and not
enduring). I was racing too.... For the first time in my life i was
the guy passing up runners in the final stages and not the other way
around - that's a very empowering feeling....to just surge past
runners who've got no more gears, no more tricks in their bags.

Quoted message said:

Still got plenty of room for improvement though - it's back to the
drawing board come later this week, I have to clock at 39:30 in the
Joe Klienerman 10K here in NYC to get a seeded bib for the SF Bay to
Breakers - we'll see.

Good luck.

jobs

Quoted message said:

Thanks again,
Lance

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LSmith said:

Thanks. I ended up wearing the Asics Gel Kayano 12 shoe - full blown
13.oz trainer in my size. In this race, on this course,with my size/
structure - I wanted a shoe that would be less fatiguing/challening
and help/aid me on the back end of the race. For me I think it was a
good choice and worked.

Great race, Lance. Sounds like you were in control throughout. The 5K
splits look pretty even - 21:XX for the first half splits and 22:XX for
the second half splits. Do you have mile splits?

Quoted message said:

I always go into the races with the wealth of experience, knowledge,
and insight I've benefitted from over the years from Doug F, Stump,
Donnie, Pendy, TomB, Tony, even Anders, well just everybody. I really
do reflect and factor in content we kick around for races. Today
rec.running was in mind with taking a sip at each water stations - a
Lava Salt at the start and midway through the race.

Were you carrying any food/fuel on you? Did you take any gels?

Quoted message said:

I'm really proud to have run rather evenly on this course - my last
half split was a +5 minutes and change. You don't see that too much
from us weekend warriors @ NYC - and that's what I take away from this

C'mon, you can't call yourself a weekend warrior - what with 100 mile
weeks, week after week 🙂 How many days did you not run in the past
couple of months?

Quoted message said:

race and the 5 weeks of 100+ miles/week training. I did that
training, and wore the shoe that I did, to have stength on the back
end of this race to still be racing come miles 20+ (and not
enduring). I was racing too.... For the first time in my life i was
the guy passing up runners in the final stages and not the other way
around - that's a very empowering feeling....to just surge past
runners who've got no more gears, no more tricks in their bags.

Quoted message said:

Still got plenty of room for improvement though - it's back to the
drawing board come later this week, I have to clock at 39:30 in the
Joe Klienerman 10K here in NYC to get a seeded bib for the SF Bay to
Breakers - we'll see.

Good luck.

jobs

Quoted message said:

Thanks again,
Lance

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LSmith said:

Thanks. I ended up wearing the Asics Gel Kayano 12 shoe - full blown
13.oz trainer in my size. In this race, on this course,with my size/
structure - I wanted a shoe that would be less fatiguing/challening
and help/aid me on the back end of the race. For me I think it was a
good choice and worked.

Great race, Lance. Sounds like you were in control throughout. The 5K
splits look pretty even - 21:XX for the first half splits and 22:XX for
the second half splits. Do you have mile splits?

Quoted message said:

I always go into the races with the wealth of experience, knowledge,
and insight I've benefitted from over the years from Doug F, Stump,
Donnie, Pendy, TomB, Tony, even Anders, well just everybody. I really
do reflect and factor in content we kick around for races. Today
rec.running was in mind with taking a sip at each water stations - a
Lava Salt at the start and midway through the race.

Were you carrying any food/fuel on you? Did you take any gels?

Quoted message said:

I'm really proud to have run rather evenly on this course - my last
half split was a +5 minutes and change. You don't see that too much
from us weekend warriors @ NYC - and that's what I take away from this

C'mon, you can't call yourself a weekend warrior - what with 100 mile
weeks, week after week 🙂 How many days did you not run in the past
couple of months?

Quoted message said:

race and the 5 weeks of 100+ miles/week training. I did that
training, and wore the shoe that I did, to have stength on the back
end of this race to still be racing come miles 20+ (and not
enduring). I was racing too.... For the first time in my life i was
the guy passing up runners in the final stages and not the other way
around - that's a very empowering feeling....to just surge past
runners who've got no more gears, no more tricks in their bags.

Quoted message said:

Still got plenty of room for improvement though - it's back to the
drawing board come later this week, I have to clock at 39:30 in the
Joe Klienerman 10K here in NYC to get a seeded bib for the SF Bay to
Breakers - we'll see.

Good luck.

jobs

Quoted message said:

Thanks again,
Lance

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LSmith said:

I always go into the races with the wealth of experience, knowledge,
and insight I've benefitted from over the years from Doug F, Stump,
Donnie, Pendy, TomB, Tony, even Anders, well just everybody, but especially TBR,

Well you are very welcome Lance. I'm glad you could benefit from my
superior knowlegde, skill, and training tips, and that it worked out
so well. I wished you lived in my small town growing up, because we
only had one black family, and thanks to myself and my friends they
ran REALLY fast. If you'd been around then, you'd certainly be even
better trained by now. We used to even help with their electric light
bills, by providing two large, crossed, burning sticks on their lawn
at night so they didn't need to use so many lights. We also wore white
sheets to help reflect the light back tords their house.
I miss those days....

Your mentor,
TBR