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  1. We're intending to cycle the length of the Western Isles from North to South in May. So far so good,
    but this seems to involve leaving a car in Oban when we catch the ferry to Castlebay on Barra, and
    arriving back in Ullapool from Stornaway - thus having somehow to get from Ullapool to Oban. Does
    anyone have experience of doing this route, and in particular the public transport options for two
    people with bikes from Ullapool to Oban? Are there maybe other ways of arranging the route?

    Thanks for your help,

    Doug

  2. I don't wish to seem pedantic but isn't barra the southern most of the outer hebrides. When I did
    that route about 20 years ago public transport was non-existant. We did the route from Ullapool to
    stornaway then cycled down the Isles and then got the ferry back from the bottom end to Ullapool.
    This meant missing out Barra but rendered the rest of the holiday possible. Cheers Colin

    "Doug Hughes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uDiJb.6401$Qr5.1850879@newsfep2-
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    We're intending to cycle the length of the Western Isles from North to


    South

    Quoted message said:

    in May. So far so good, but this seems to involve leaving a car in Oban


    when

    Quoted message said:

    we catch the ferry to Castlebay on Barra, and arriving back in Ullapool


    from

    Quoted message said:

    Stornaway - thus having somehow to get from Ullapool to Oban. Does anyone have experience of doing
    this route, and in particular the public


    transport

    Quoted message said:

    options for two people with bikes from Ullapool to Oban? Are there maybe other ways of arranging
    the route?

    Thanks for your help,

    Doug

  3. Doug Hughes <[email hidden]> wrote in ...

    Quoted message said:

    We're intending to cycle the length of the Western Isles from North to


    South

    Quoted message said:

    in May. So far so good, but this seems to involve leaving a car in Oban


    when

    Quoted message said:

    we catch the ferry to Castlebay on Barra, and arriving back in Ullapool


    from

    Quoted message said:

    Stornaway - thus having somehow to get from Ullapool to Oban. Does anyone have experience of doing
    this route, and in particular the public


    transport

    Quoted message said:

    options for two people with bikes from Ullapool to Oban? Are there maybe other ways of arranging
    the route?

    AFAIK there is no public transport option from Ullapool - you'd have to ride to Inverness (or
    Lairg), and then:-
    a) train via Glasgow to get back to Oban,
    b) train to Newtonmore, ride to Tulloch train to Ft Bill, ride Oban (or just ride Newtonmore -
    Oban) (or go on Bromptons, to allow buses).

    or alternatively:
    c) dump the car at Mallaig, ferry to Barra, ferry back from Tarbert (Harris) to Uig on Skye,
    ride across Skye to Armadale, ferry to Mallaig.

    Timings?
    d) The problems are likely to be that you don't arrive in Ullapool until 1400, and it's 60 miles
    to Inverness, which means you miss the last train south. That's going to mean 2 days from
    Stornoway to Oban.
    e) As above, but 2 days riding to Oban rather than 1 day riding the train round Scotland.
    f) 1 day riding Stornoway back down to Tarbert (33m), and ferry to Uig, 16m to Portree, overnight?,
    32m to Armadale, ferry

    I'd go for (c) - dump the car in Mallaig.

    We did Tarbet (Loch Lomond),Glencoe, Armadale, Uig, 2 days at Kershader (20m S Stornoway), Ullapool,
    Gairloch, Torridon, Sheil Bridge, Fort William, Crianlarich, Tarbet as a 2 week tour 3 or 4 years
    back. Ullapool back down to Crianlarich was a much more enjoyable ride than going up to Stornoway,
    although that may have been mainly due to the better weather.

    Andrew

  4. Doug Hughes said:

    We're intending to cycle the length of the Western Isles from North to South in May. So far so
    good, but this seems to involve leaving a car in Oban when we catch the ferry to Castlebay on
    Barra, and arriving back in Ullapool from Stornaway - thus having somehow to get from Ullapool to
    Oban. Does anyone have experience of doing this route, and in particular the public transport
    options for two people with bikes from Ullapool to Oban? Are there maybe other ways of arranging
    the route?

    When we did something similar, we cycled the islands from south to north (isn't that what you
    mean?), and returned back down the west coast of the mainland. We also travelled to Oban and back by
    train, so had no particular _need_ to make a circular trip. But the return trip was pleasant enough
    (including a detour via Mull which cut out some of the busier roads).

    James

  5. "Doug Hughes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    We're intending to cycle the length of the Western Isles from North to


    South

    Quoted message said:

    in May. So far so good, but this seems to involve leaving a car in Oban


    when

    Quoted message said:

    we catch the ferry to Castlebay on Barra, and arriving back in Ullapool


    from

    Quoted message said:

    Stornaway - thus having somehow to get from Ullapool to Oban. Does anyone have experience of doing
    this route, and in particular the public


    transport

    Quoted message said:

    options for two people with bikes from Ullapool to Oban? Are there maybe other ways of arranging
    the route?

    I didn't fancy going to Barra as it would just be a short round trip, requiring an extra 2
    hour's ferry.

    Instead you could try Skye-Mallaig-Ardnamuchan-Mull. This might take an extra three days or so, but
    there are places well worth seeing on that return route.

  6. "Doug Hughes" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    We're intending to cycle the length of the Western Isles from North to South in May. So far so
    good, but this seems to involve leaving a car in Oban when we catch the ferry to Castlebay on
    Barra, and arriving back in Ullapool from Stornaway - thus having somehow to get from Ullapool to
    Oban. Does anyone have experience of doing this route, and in particular the public transport
    options for two people with bikes from Ullapool to Oban? Are there maybe other ways of arranging
    the route?

    Thanks for your help,

    Doug

    Car in Oban seems to be your biggest problem. Can you leave the car further south? Glasgow would be
    best transport-wise, but security & parking cost might be a concern. Crianlarich would be more
    secure and with more train choice. Or can you leave the car at home? FWIW I've never had a problem
    taking bikes on Scotrail but space in general can be a problem on the Oban/Ft. William/Mallaig
    route. Even 6 coaches aren't enough but the platforms can't take longer trains! &FWIW I had a week
    touring (on foot) the N&W Scotland last Easter and can say that every single train, bus, and ferry
    ran on time. HTH, Bill

    --
    Cyclists are always well-balanced.

  7. Best to do this trip with the prevailing wind ! (ie from south - Barra - to north -
    Lewis)............. Done it quite a few times - great fun !

    Re Ullapool to Oban................ CityLink bus to Inverness then Fort William/Oban....(they should
    take your bikes in the luggage compartments)

    Hugh ;-)

    "Doug Hughes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uDiJb.6401$Qr5.1850879@newsfep2-
    win.server.ntli.net...

    Quoted message said:

    We're intending to cycle the length of the Western Isles from North to


    South

    Quoted message said:

    in May. So far so good, but this seems to involve leaving a car in Oban


    when

    Quoted message said:

    we catch the ferry to Castlebay on Barra, and arriving back in Ullapool


    from

    Quoted message said:

    Stornaway - thus having somehow to get from Ullapool to Oban. Does anyone have experience of doing
    this route, and in particular the public


    transport

    Quoted message said:

    options for two people with bikes from Ullapool to Oban? Are there maybe other ways of arranging
    the route?

    Thanks for your help,

    Doug

  8. "Hugh Spicer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Best to do this trip with the prevailing wind ! (ie from south - Barra -


    to

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    north - Lewis)............. Done it quite a few times - great fun !


    I'll second that. I rode North-Uist to Lochboisdale in a day 2 years ago. It's about 70 miles or so
    and it was all into a ferocious wind. I was going flat out and I averaged 9mph. It was a killer

  9. "Hugh Spicer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Best to do this trip with the prevailing wind ! (ie from south - Barra - to north -
    Lewis)............. Done it quite a few times - great fun !

    Re Ullapool to Oban................ CityLink bus to Inverness then Fort William/Oban....(they
    should take your bikes in the luggage compartments)

    Hugh ;-) This link > citylink.co.ukq6.htm Suggests that they only carry folders
    placedin a bike bag. Having said that in my experience there is normally more come and go and
    common sense in the highlands far from the tentacles of head office. A driver asked to carry the
    bikes as a favour may well oblige.

    Quoted message said:

    "Doug Hughes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uDiJb.6401$Qr5.1850879@newsfep2-
    win.server.ntli.net...

    Quoted message said:

    We're intending to cycle the length of the Western Isles from North to


    South

    Quoted message said:

    in May. So far so good, but this seems to involve leaving a car in Oban


    when

    Quoted message said:

    we catch the ferry to Castlebay on Barra, and arriving back in Ullapool


    from

    Quoted message said:

    Stornaway - thus having somehow to get from Ullapool to Oban. Does anyone have experience of
    doing this route, and in particular the public


    transport

    Quoted message said:

    options for two people with bikes from Ullapool to Oban? Are there maybe other ways of arranging
    the route?

    Thanks for your help,

    Doug

  10. On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 22:25:09 +0000 (UTC) someone who may be "Andrew
    Sweetman" <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

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    AFAIK there is no public transport option from Ullapool - you'd have to ride to Inverness
    (or Lairg),

    There were one or two buses to Inverness a few years ago. For current information I would suggest
    the Scottish Executive web site and finding the transport planner.

    I have no idea which bus services carry cycles officially.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked
    keys, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

  11. Much depends on the goodwill - or otherwise ! - of the bus driver............. But "officialdom"
    thankfully doesn't reign too much in the highlands ;-)

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    "Hugh Spicer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

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    Quoted message said:

    Best to do this trip with the prevailing wind ! (ie from south - Barra -


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    north - Lewis)............. Done it quite a few times - great fun !

    Re Ullapool to Oban................ CityLink bus to Inverness then


    Fort

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    William/Oban....(they should take your bikes in the luggage


    compartments)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Hugh ;-) This link > citylink.co.ukq6.htm Suggests that they only carry folders
    placedin a bike bag. Having said


    that in my experience there is normally more come and go and common sense in the highlands far from
    the tentacles of head office. A driver asked to carry the bikes as a favour may well oblige.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    "Doug Hughes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uDiJb.6401$Qr5.1850879@newsfep2-
    win.server.ntli.net...

    Quoted message said:

    We're intending to cycle the length of the Western Isles from North to


    South

    Quoted message said:

    in May. So far so good, but this seems to involve leaving a car in


    Oban

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    when

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    we catch the ferry to Castlebay on Barra, and arriving back in


    Ullapool

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    from

    Quoted message said:

    Stornaway - thus having somehow to get from Ullapool to Oban. Does


    anyone

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    have experience of doing this route, and in particular the public


    transport

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    options for two people with bikes from Ullapool to Oban? Are there


    maybe

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    other ways of arranging the route?

    Thanks for your help,

    Doug


  12. One Possibility is to ride back on the mainland/ inner isles.

    Last Summer we did a circular island hopping tour starting from Oban/Carra. We only got as far as
    North Harris so we missed Lewis/Ullapool and came bach via
    Tarbet/Uig/Skye/Mallaig/Ardamurchan/Tobormory/Mull/Oban.

    "Doug Hughes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uDiJb.6401$Qr5.1850879@newsfep2-
    win.server.ntli.net...

    Quoted message said:

    We're intending to cycle the length of the Western Isles from North to


    South

    Quoted message said:

    in May. So far so good, but this seems to involve leaving a car in Oban


    when

    Quoted message said:

    we catch the ferry to Castlebay on Barra, and arriving back in Ullapool


    from

    Quoted message said:

    Stornaway - thus having somehow to get from Ullapool to Oban. Does anyone have experience of doing
    this route, and in particular the public


    transport

    Quoted message said:

    options for two people with bikes from Ullapool to Oban? Are there maybe other ways of arranging
    the route?

    Thanks for your help,

    Doug

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