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    Question: What do you think about the new unicyclists invasion on the
    forums?

    - They are stupid and I hat`em!
    - They are cool `cause they make the sport grow.
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    The number of new unicyclists is increasing really fast... I just want
    to know what the "veterans" think about it...

    I think it`s a pretty good thing. More people make the sport grow
    bigger. That`s really good.

    (those "I`m a noob" threads can be really annoying though)

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  2. What is the problem, if you aren't interested in a thread, don't read
    it.

    I don't think it is very welcoming to new forum members/new riders to
    just tell them to search for previous threads. They want interaction
    as well as information.

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  3. Don't forget that we were all noobies once upon a time. Even Kris Home
    and George Peck were noobies once!

    If the Unicycling grows then Unicycles will be massed produced reducing
    the cost. It would be nice to get KHs for $200-$300 instead of $575! I
    think that all the noobies make the AEbikes deal possible! There will
    be more money dumped into development and design. More models will come
    out. These are great things.

    On the other hand if people are Unicycling all over the place we ae not
    going to be a special close knit community any more.

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  4. Unicorn said:


    On the other hand if people are Unicycling all over the place we ae not
    going to be a special close knit community any more.

    Unicorn

    I agree with you there!
    I am also a member of enjoybmx.com and and don't know why I bothered
    because to be brutally honest, everyone on those forums are t**ts!

    I like how the unicyclist forums are a warm and friendly place, where
    most people get along.

    Awwww, I love you guys! (And girls!)

    Rock on!
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  5. Unicorn said:

    Don't forget that we were all noobies once upon a time. Even Kris Home
    and George Peck were noobies once!

    If the Unicycling grows then Unicycles will be massed produced reducing
    the cost. It would be nice to get KHs for $200-$300 instead of $575! I
    think that all the noobies make the AEbikes deal possible! There will
    be more money dumped into development and design. More models will come
    out. These are great things.

    On the other hand if people are Unicycling all over the place we are
    not going to be a special close knit community any more.

    Unicorn

    I couldn't agree with you more about the mass production costs. I also
    think the more unicyclists the better really. It's always nice to meet
    someone new as we were once new to this forum too. 😄 😄 😄

    Eddbmxdude said:

    I agree with you there!
    I am also a member of enjoybmx.com and and don't know why I bothered
    because to be brutally honest, everyone on those forums are t**ts!

    I like how the unicyclist forums are a warm and friendly place, where
    most people get along.

    Awwww, I love you guys! (And girls!)

    Rock on!
    Edd

    We love you too Edd. 😄 😄

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  6. Unicorn said:

    On the other hand if people are Unicycling all over the place we ae not
    going to be a special close knit community any more.

    Unicorn

    I don`t think this is a problem at all. the more known unicyle gets,
    unicyclists will get more and more sponsors and start to even get some
    real money with it.

    and people will stop calling us clowns on the streeets. 🙂

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  7. I've noticed the proliferation of newbies on the forums too. New
    unicyclists is always great; more of us to dispel the circus image, and
    a bigger market so we can have more and better unicycles for less!

    But here on the forums it makes me wonder if we need a slower way for
    new riders to get acquainted with us before posting the standard newbie
    posts. As I have suggested in the past, it might be a good time for
    Gilby to reconsider a "cooling off period" before new forum members can
    post, and maybe a sticky at the top with some basic forum guidelines,
    such as how to find answers to the obvious questions, where the search
    button is, and whatever etiquette we (he) chooses to suggest.

    Welcome newbies! Read before writing! Use the search button (near the
    top of the page), it really works!

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  8. noobie vids can be a bit frustrating to watch, probably down to empathy
    more than anything else :p And yes I realise there's an off button
    available.

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  9. i just dont like what the forum has become.
    i lot of pointless threads and newbies questions

    the new ones need to learn how to use the search button

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  10. johnfoss said:

    I've noticed the proliferation of newbies on the forums too. New
    unicyclists is always great; more of us to dispel the circus image, and
    a bigger market so we can have more and better unicycles for less!

    But here on the forums it makes me wonder if we need a slower way for
    new riders to get acquainted with us before posting the standard newbie
    posts. As I have suggested in the past, it might be a good time for
    Gilby to reconsider a "cooling off period" before new forum members can
    post, and maybe a sticky at the top with some basic forum guidelines,
    such as how to find answers to the obvious questions, where the search
    button is, and whatever etiquette we (he) chooses to suggest.

    Welcome newbies! Read before writing! Use the search button (near the
    top of the page), it really works!

    Might be just me but I'd find a "manditory no posting period" annoying
    if I was a unicyclist who'd only just found the forum (I've been in
    that situation) and needed to ask something. I think most people these
    days know "forum etiquette" and I think it's basically just the 10-14yr
    old noobies who ask the unreasonably unnecessary questions... but the
    same applies to people that age wherever you go and you just have to be
    patient.

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  11. Yes they can get annoying sometimes, but it certainaly isn't "new":
    http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17396

    I think blocking new members from posting for a certain time or
    something to that effect is worthless. It would only discourge people.
    Maybe a more subtle way to go about it would be to just not post so
    much in the "noob threads", just give them a link or an explaination of
    they're problem and leave it at that.

    We need a good technical trials discussion on here again, or something.

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  12. forrestunifreak said:

    I think blocking new members from posting for a certain time or
    something to that effect is worthless. It would only discourge people.

    .... from posting before reading. That's the idea. The vast majority of
    newbie questions are basic stuff with easily found answers. Often, if
    people just need a question answered they should prefer to find the
    answer right away rather than wait for people to respond to a thread
    they may already have answered in the past.

    Quoted message said:

    We need a good technical trials discussion on here again, or something.

    Agreed. It's always a shame when the interesting discussions get pushed
    off page 1 by repetitive newbie posts... 🙂

    More seriously, in the past we've talked about separating out beginner
    stuff from advanced stuff, or other ways to divide things up by topic,
    but the conclusions was always that we didn't want to desert the
    newbies either. If there was a newbie forum and nobody experienced
    wanted to post there, it would bring the newbies back to the other
    forums anyway.

    Also there's always the question of which forum to tie to the
    rec.sport.unicycling newsgroup. But I think a newbie forum might be
    worth a try, especially if Gilby can find a volunteer out there who'd
    like to help monitor it, and perhaps move older threads on newbie
    topics into that forum for better searchability.

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  13. On the Home of Poi forums there is an automatic search done on your
    title before a new thread is started. The search results are presented
    to you, giving you the option to explore previous threads or continue
    with your new thread. I'm not sure how effective this has been in
    curbing the lack-of-use-of-search-function problem as I'm not an active
    member anymore.

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  14. is there really a forum just for poi? man...

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  15. I just looked at the front page, there's like two threads from newbies.

    One is asking a specific question about a specific unicycle, which is
    exactly the kind of thing these forums are great for, I don't think
    they could have answered that question by searching the forums.

    The other one is asking the old 24 vs 26 vs 29 thing. Which kind of
    comes up really often, but is still an interesting one, cos people's
    opinions on it seem to change all the time, I know mine does, depending
    on what muni I've been riding recently.

    The rest is all stuff that is of general interest (or at least of
    interest to people who do particular types of riding), or random
    questions about specific things, which again wouldn't be good for the
    search engine.

    I think that for some reason, on the internet there's always people who
    moan about 'noooobs' asking nooob questions, when they could use the
    search, even when they're only a tiny percentage of the threads. It
    always seems a bit weird and unfriendly to me, it's like if at juggling
    club, any time someone came along and said I'd like to learn to juggle
    3 balls, we said 'if you go to the library, there's a book about
    juggling, that'll tell you how', there wouldn't be many members and it
    wouldn't be such a nice place to be. Teaching new people is part of the
    joy of being good at something.

    Quoted message said:

    On the other hand if people are Unicycling all over the place we ae not
    going to be a special close knit community any more.

    I've gone round the world and met unicyclists off here, which is super
    cool. But I've done the same with bikes too, off other web sites, or by
    popping into bike shops, or randomly meeting people in pubs. I think
    all that happens if there are tons of people, is that there are enough
    people in most places for there to be a special close knit community in
    every town, as well as these kind of internet communities. Which can
    only be a good thing, it's great that there are loads of people on the
    internet, but it'd be double awesome if there were that many people out
    riding every weekend wherever you lived.

    Joe

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  16. francisco said:

    is there really a forum just for poi? man...

    As unbelievable as a forum just for unicycle:p

    'The Home of Poi' (www.homeofpoi.com)

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  17. Eddbmxdude said:

    Awwww, I love you guys! (And girls!)

    Rock on!
    Edd

    Shucks :p

    love you too.

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  18. Some forums have a beginners area section so people can post all those
    basic questions in one place so it doesn't cutter up everything else.

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  19. Maybe someone could create a "New to Unicycling" discussion group, then
    you wouldn't have to look at all the posts unless you wanted to help
    some people out. Also this would help in narrowing search info, you
    could just search the newbie group instead all of rec.sport.unicycling.
    The searching functionality on these forums is less than spectacular
    (could just be me), everytime I search for something I have to wade
    through tons of unrelated posts, I see how people could get frustrated
    and just post the question. It would be nice if only the posts with
    matches were returned instead of the whole thread.

    johnfoss said:

    I've noticed the proliferation of newbies on the forums too. New
    unicyclists is always great; more of us to dispel the circus image, and
    a bigger market so we can have more and better unicycles for less!

    But here on the forums it makes me wonder if we need a slower way for
    new riders to get acquainted with us before posting the standard newbie
    posts. As I have suggested in the past, it might be a good time for
    Gilby to reconsider a "cooling off period" before new forum members can
    post, and maybe a sticky at the top with some basic forum guidelines,
    such as how to find answers to the obvious questions, where the search
    button is, and whatever etiquette we (he) chooses to suggest.

    Welcome newbies! Read before writing! Use the search button (near the
    top of the page), it really works!

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  20. guys we were all once there. If its bovering you that much, ignor the
    thread.

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    why are koxx one unicycles so costly???

    forrestunifreak said:

    They are expensive because they use only the finest soft drink cans.

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