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What of Tyler ?

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  1. Tinkoff Credit Systems has announced its line-up for the upcoming season. The Italian team and its Russian sponsor will once again have 19 riders for its second year as a Professional Continental team, but the big names with which it started last season have all disappeared. Danilo Hondo is serving his doping-related suspension, while Tyler Hamilton and Jörg Jaksche were dismissed during the season after being linked to Operación Puerto's Dr. Eufemiano Fuentes.
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    So you're more in the David Millar [who recently returned to the Pro Tour after a two-year drug ban] boat?

    Yeah, the exact same situation. Except that he did something wrong, and I did not.

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  2. A man with his abilities to construction fiction - should head west to Hollywood for a job.
    Knowing him, he'd have no compunction breaking the pickets

  3. I do wonder if he actually believes his own lies? Delusional ?

    How nuts is Tyler?

  4. earth_dweller said:

    I do wonder if he actually believes his own lies? Delusional ?

    How nuts is Tyler?

    He's gone so far down the road of deception that he can't possibly turn back now, especially if there may be legal repercussions involving the money he solicited for his defense fund.

    Like Armstrong, he has gotten himself in so deep that even if he really wanted to come clean - which I don't think he does, mind - for all practical purposes he has no choice but to soldier on.

  5. What was it about Postal Disco that brought so many douchebags together? They had Hamilton, Landis, and Armstrong, all cut from the same cloth.

  6. Bro Deal said:

    What was it about Postal Disco that brought so many douchebags together? They had Hamilton, Landis, and Armstrong, all cut from the same cloth.


    ...and don't forget Alien George in all of that........... he was riding up mountains whilst adjusting his sunglasses and winning the stage and this was after leading the entire peleton for the last 19 days straight..........

  7. Bro Deal said:

    What was it about Postal Disco that brought so many douchebags together? They had Hamilton, Landis, and Armstrong, all cut from the same cloth.

    And Heras is still in denial mode as well.

  8. Bro Deal said:

    What was it about Postal Disco that brought so many douchebags together? They had Hamilton, Landis, and Armstrong, all cut from the same cloth.


    I think this pretty much explains it. You either played the game (i.e. were a douchebag) or there was no use for you. Frankie and Vaughter's edited IM exchange:

    Cyclevaughters: frankie - hey - thanks for talking the other day

    Cyclevaughters: anyhow, i never can quite figure out why i don't just
    play along with the lance crowd - i mean [censored] it would make my life
    easier, eh? it's not like i never played with hotsauce, eh?

    FDREU: I know, but in the end i don't think it comes back to bite you

    FDREU: I play along, my wife does not, and Lance hates us both

    FDREU: it's a no win situation, you know how he is. Once you leave the
    team or do soemthing wrong you forever banned

    Cyclevaughters: i suppose - you know he tried to hire me back in 2001...
    he was nice to me... i just couldn't deal with that whole world

    FDREU: I did not know that

    FDREU: look at why everyone leaves, it's way to controlling

    Cyclevaughters: once I went to CA and saw that not all the teams got 25
    injections every day

    Cyclevaughters: hell, CA was ZERO

    FDREU: you mean all the riders

    Cyclevaughters: Credit Agricole

    FDREU: it's crazy
    Cyclevaughters: So, I realized lance was full of [censored] when he'd say
    everyone was doing it

    FDREU: After 1999, you know many things changed. lance did not

    FDREU: I believe that's part of whey kevin left, he was tired of the stuff

    Cyclevaughters: yeah, i could explain the whole way lance dupes everyone

    FDREU: what abut GH climbing the mountains better than azevedo and the
    entire group

    Cyclevaughters: from how floyd described it, i know exactly the methos

    FDREU: explain that, classics to climber

    FDREU: when did you talk with floyd

    Cyclevaughters: i don't know - i want to trust George

    Cyclevaughters: but the thing is on that team, you think it's normal

    Cyclevaughters: or at least i did

    FDREU: i guess. anything with blodd is not normal

    Cyclevaughters: yeah, it's very complex how the avoid all the controls
    now, but it's not any new drug or anything, just the resources and
    planning to pull of a well devised plan

    Cyclevaughters: it's why they all got dropped on stage 9 - no refill yet
    - then on the rest day - boom 800ml of packed cells

    FDREU: they have it mastered. good point

    Cyclevaughters: they draw the blood right after the dauphine

    FDREU: how do they sneak it in, or keep it until needed

    FDREU: i'm sure it's not with the truck in the frig

    Cyclevaughters: motorcycle - refridgerated panniers

    Cyclevaughters: on the rest day

    Cyclevaughters: floyd has a photo of the thing

    FDREU: crazy! it' just keep going to new levels

    Cyclevaughters: yeah, it's complicated, but with enough money you can do it

    FDREU: they have enough money. Floyd was so [censored] at them this entire tour

    Cyclevaughters: anyhow - i just feel sorry for floyd and some of the
    other guys

    Cyclevaughters: why would lance keep doing the [censored] when he clearly
    has nothing to prove - it's weird

    FDREU: I know. me to. they all get ripped into for no reason

    FDREU: he's done now, thank god. but they will prove next year for
    Johan's sake that they are the greatest

    Cyclevaughters: and then lance says " this guy and that guys are pussies"

    FDREU: they won't stop
    FDREU: I agree

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