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  1. Another fond AM myth is that cancer is some sort of minor bodily aberration
    that can be easily fixed by the right diet, correcting the odd nutritional
    deficiency or even thinking the right thoughts.

    It's not. It's most often a vicious uncontrollable predator that cares not
    one whit for what the rest of the body is doing, having usually even
    already completely outwitted the immune system. That, along with an almost
    invariably fatal outcome if it is not effectively elimiinated, is why
    treatments of cancer can be of necessity be quite drastic.

    Having held cancer in my hands on many occasions, I have wondered whether
    alternative supporters would feel the same if they knew what it looked and
    felt like - how alien it is to any normal kind of tissue or even to its
    organ of origin..

    (Thanks to Toby Jones) - this site has some examples of what it can look
    like. The cancer in thie picture is the pale tissue almost encircling the
    stomach, just below the left lobe of the liver.

    http://www-medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/GIHTML/GI111.html

    I am sure there are better examples. Does anyone have some other examples
    of how aberrant and invasive cancerous tissue is?

    Peter Moran

  2. On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 07:23:47 +1000, "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Another fond AM myth is that cancer is some sort of minor bodily aberration
    that can be easily fixed by the right diet, correcting the odd nutritional
    deficiency or even thinking the right thoughts.

    Or a zapper. Actually I suspect that even those most ostensibly
    radical altie, if he/she had the means, would avail themselves of
    conventional treatment if they really had a malignant cancer. They
    often talk the talk but do not walk the walk. Of course those who
    stick to their guns, as it were, will likely end up dead before their
    time if they choose to eschew a conventional treatment that has been
    shown to be effective through clinical trials.

    Quoted message said:


    Having held cancer in my hands on many occasions, I have wondered whether
    alternative supporters would feel the same if they knew what it looked and
    felt like - how alien it is to any normal kind of tissue or even to its
    organ of origin..

    I suspect that many alties are not very interested in science or
    actually seeing what cancer looks like. They are interested in what
    sounds like a way to prevent cancer (if they don't already have it) or
    to treat it if they do. What is most important to them is their belief
    that they could do something about it. Often they are credulous people
    who believe the quacks who promote their own pet therapies. They are
    most likely scientifically illiterate and anti-conventional.

    Aloha,

    Rich

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    -------------------------------------------------

    The best defense to logic is ignorance

  3. "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Another fond AM myth is that cancer is some sort of minor bodily


    aberration

    Quoted message said:

    that can be easily fixed by the right diet, correcting the odd


    nutritional

    Quoted message said:

    deficiency or even thinking the right thoughts.

    It's not. It's most often a vicious uncontrollable predator that cares


    not

    Quoted message said:

    one whit for what the rest of the body is doing, having usually even
    already completely outwitted the immune system. That, along with an


    almost

    Quoted message said:

    invariably fatal outcome if it is not effectively elimiinated, is why
    treatments of cancer can be of necessity be quite drastic.

    Having held cancer in my hands on many occasions, I have wondered whether
    alternative supporters would feel the same if they knew what it looked and
    felt like - how alien it is to any normal kind of tissue or even to its
    organ of origin..

    (Thanks to Toby Jones) - this site has some examples of what it can look
    like. The cancer in thie picture is the pale tissue almost encircling


    the

    Quoted message said:

    stomach, just below the left lobe of the liver.

    http://www-medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/GIHTML/GI111.html

    Scroll through that site for more pictures. Maybe the Alties will get a clue
    that they do not have a clue about cancer.

    Quoted message said:

    I am sure there are better examples. Does anyone have some other examples
    of how aberrant and invasive cancerous tissue is?

    Peter Moran

  4. Peter Moran said:

    Another fond AM myth is that cancer is some sort of minor bodily
    aberration that can be easily fixed by the right diet, correcting the
    odd nutritional deficiency or even thinking the right thoughts.

    It's not. It's most often a vicious uncontrollable predator that cares
    not one whit for what the rest of the body is doing, having usually even
    already completely outwitted the immune system. That, along with an
    almost invariably fatal outcome if it is not effectively elimiinated, is
    why treatments of cancer can be of necessity be quite drastic.

    Having held cancer in my hands on many occasions, I have wondered
    whether alternative supporters would feel the same if they knew what it
    looked and felt like - how alien it is to any normal kind of tissue or
    even to its organ of origin..

    (Thanks to Toby Jones) - this site has some examples of what it can look
    like. The cancer in thie picture is the pale tissue almost encircling
    the stomach, just below the left lobe of the liver.

    http://www-medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/GIHTML/GI111.html

    I am sure there are better examples. Does anyone have some other
    examples of how aberrant and invasive cancerous tissue is?

    Peter Moran

    www.endoatlas.com/co_mt_03.html
    (Karposi, 37 yo w/aids)

    www.endoatlas.com/atlas_co.html
    (database; check the malig. tumor section)

    --
    http://costofwar.com/
    www.unicef.org/sowc02/g31.htm

  5. "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Another fond AM myth is that cancer is some sort of minor bodily


    aberration

    Quoted message said:

    that can be easily fixed by the right diet, correcting the odd


    nutritional

    Quoted message said:

    deficiency or even thinking the right thoughts.

    It's not. It's most often a vicious uncontrollable predator that cares


    not

    Quoted message said:

    one whit for what the rest of the body is doing, having usually even
    already completely outwitted the immune system. That, along with an


    almost

    Quoted message said:

    invariably fatal outcome if it is not effectively elimiinated, is why
    treatments of cancer can be of necessity be quite drastic.

    Having held cancer in my hands on many occasions, I have wondered whether
    alternative supporters would feel the same if they knew what it looked and
    felt like - how alien it is to any normal kind of tissue or even to its
    organ of origin..

    (Thanks to Toby Jones) - this site has some examples of what it can look
    like. The cancer in thie picture is the pale tissue almost encircling


    the

    Quoted message said:

    stomach, just below the left lobe of the liver.

    http://www-medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/GIHTML/GI111.html

    I am sure there are better examples. Does anyone have some other examples
    of how aberrant and invasive cancerous tissue is?

    Peter Moran


    ///////////////////////////////
    The only thing alien is your brain .

  6. Bew' qw@nonamewhatsover said:


    "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Another fond AM myth is that cancer is some sort of minor bodily


    aberration

    Quoted message said:

    that can be easily fixed by the right diet, correcting the odd


    nutritional

    Quoted message said:

    deficiency or even thinking the right thoughts.

    It's not. It's most often a vicious uncontrollable predator that cares


    not

    Quoted message said:

    one whit for what the rest of the body is doing, having usually even
    already completely outwitted the immune system. That, along with an


    almost

    Quoted message said:

    invariably fatal outcome if it is not effectively elimiinated, is why
    treatments of cancer can be of necessity be quite drastic.

    Having held cancer in my hands on many occasions, I have wondered whether
    alternative supporters would feel the same if they knew what it looked and
    felt like - how alien it is to any normal kind of tissue or even to its
    organ of origin..

    (Thanks to Toby Jones) - this site has some examples of what it can look
    like. The cancer in thie picture is the pale tissue almost encircling


    the

    Quoted message said:

    stomach, just below the left lobe of the liver.

    http://www-medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/GIHTML/GI111.html

    I am sure there are better examples. Does anyone have some other examples
    of how aberrant and invasive cancerous tissue is?

    Peter Moran


    ///////////////////////////////
    The only thing alien is your brain .

    Thanx Bew for your very important contribution to this discussion. I
    especially appreciate your not making gratuitous insults. Keep up the
    good work. It is people like you who make mha the group that it is:-))

    Aloha,

    Rich

    Quoted message said:

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    The best defense to logic is ignorance

  7. "Bew" <qw@nonamewhatsover> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Another fond AM myth is that cancer is some sort of minor bodily


    aberration

    Quoted message said:

    that can be easily fixed by the right diet, correcting the odd


    nutritional

    Quoted message said:

    deficiency or even thinking the right thoughts.

    It's not. It's most often a vicious uncontrollable predator that cares


    not

    Quoted message said:

    one whit for what the rest of the body is doing, having usually even
    already completely outwitted the immune system. That, along with an


    almost

    Quoted message said:

    invariably fatal outcome if it is not effectively elimiinated, is why
    treatments of cancer can be of necessity be quite drastic.

    Having held cancer in my hands on many occasions, I have wondered


    whether

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    alternative supporters would feel the same if they knew what it looked


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    felt like - how alien it is to any normal kind of tissue or even to its
    organ of origin..

    (Thanks to Toby Jones) - this site has some examples of what it can


    look

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    like. The cancer in thie picture is the pale tissue almost encircling


    the

    Quoted message said:

    stomach, just below the left lobe of the liver.

    http://www-medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/GIHTML/GI111.html

    I am sure there are better examples. Does anyone have some other


    examples

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of how aberrant and invasive cancerous tissue is?

    Peter Moran


    ///////////////////////////////

    Bew responded:

    Quoted message said:

    The only thing alien is your brain .

    Bew, you really are one sick SOB. I hope that one day you will go crawling
    to someone like Peter and they will look your posts up on Google and.....

  8. "Toby Joe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I am sure there are better examples. Does anyone have some other
    examples of how aberrant and invasive cancerous tissue is?

    Peter Moran

    www.endoatlas.com/co_mt_03.html
    (Karposi, 37 yo w/aids)

    www.endoatlas.com/atlas_co.html
    (database; check the malig. tumor section)

    Thanks, Toby. There are some excellent pictures of colon cancer at the
    following site. Anyone thinking about that cancer should have these
    images in mind.

    http://www.endoatlas.com/co_mt_02.html

    For those who have stronger stomachs, the next one shows how breast cancer
    can end up if proper treatment is refused, and if metastases do not kindly
    kill the patient off first. There are a few like this on the cancer
    mailing lists I follow, asking about pain relief, and what to do about the
    ulceration.

    This lady is now incurable, although she almost certainly could have been
    cured by early surgery (cancers that get to this stage have little or no
    metastatic potential) . She almost certainly got this mway through using
    alternatives, since she is in what is essentially an alt clinic now.

    http://www.vci.org/breast1.htm

    This is not intended to scare, although that may do no harm for some. It
    is clear from the way many alt supporters talk about cancer that they have
    no idea what it is truly like.

    Peter Moran

  9. "Bew" <qw@nonamewhatsover> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The only thing alien is your brain .


    ===================
    Children's play-yard & kindergarten language... pathetic!
    --
    Kim
    Colonics to clean out your stuffed up @$$
    Of all the toxic goodies you do not pass
    Globs of gunk and the mucus you store
    Parasites, flukes and worms galore
    So take a colonic so you can pass
    All these nasties from your paracitized @$$.....
    The most amazing BS artists there are:
    http://members.rogers.com/kirkkolas/index.html
    http://www.geocities.com/naturopathicmafia/Quackery.html
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  10. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: What's cancer like?
    From: "Kim" [email hidden]
    Date: 4/3/2004 4:20 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "Bew" <qw@nonamewhatsover> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The only thing alien is your brain .


    ===================
    Children's play-yard & kindergarten language... pathetic!

    Soulless Reprobates, Bags of Steaming Feces,
    Remorseless (Anti-Vac) Liars, and Anti-Semites.

    Eat [censored] from a rusty bowl

  11. (Jan) said:

    Soulless Reprobates, Bags of Steaming Feces,
    Remorseless (Anti-Vac) Liars, and Anti-Semites.

    Eat [censored] from a rusty bowl

    Jan says it is always wrong to belittle. Poor Jan.

    Aloha,

    Rich

    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------

    The best defense to logic is ignorance

  12. (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: What's cancer like?
    From: "Kim" [email hidden]
    Date: 4/3/2004 4:20 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "Bew" <qw@nonamewhatsover> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The only thing alien is your brain .


    ===================
    Children's play-yard & kindergarten language... pathetic!

    Soulless Reprobates, Bags of Steaming Feces,
    Remorseless (Anti-Vac) Liars, and Anti-Semites.

    Eat [censored] from a rusty bowl

    Exactly the kinds of words which should be used to describe people who
    would condemn children to death and disability by preventable
    diseases, or who would run clinics in Tijuana to steal money (and the
    remaining months of their lives) from people with advanced cancers, or
    who would campaign for the withdrawal of drugs which can help troubled
    children take control of their lives and destinies, or ...

    Thanks for reminding us, Jan. Welcome to "us".

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
    Quintessence of the Loon http://www.ratbags.com/loon
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  13. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: What's cancer like?
    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 4/5/2004 2:02 AM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: What's cancer like?
    From: "Kim" [email hidden]
    Date: 4/3/2004 4:20 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "Bew" <qw@nonamewhatsover> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > The only thing alien is your brain .
    ===================
    Children's play-yard & kindergarten language... pathetic!

    Soulless Reprobates, Bags of Steaming Feces,
    Remorseless (Anti-Vac) Liars, and Anti-Semites.

    Eat [censored] from a rusty bowl

    Exactly the kinds of words which should be used

    Yawn, enabler of Andrew Kingoff's despicable words.

    You of course over looked Km's point.

    She has it backasswards as usual.

    <Snip blathering and spam>

    Jan

  14. "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Another fond AM myth is that cancer is some sort of minor bodily


    aberration

    Quoted message said:

    that can be easily fixed by the right diet, correcting the odd


    nutritional

    Quoted message said:

    deficiency or even thinking the right thoughts.

    It's not. It's most often a vicious uncontrollable predator that cares


    not

    Quoted message said:

    one whit for what the rest of the body is doing, having usually even
    already completely outwitted the immune system. That, along with an


    almost

    Quoted message said:

    invariably fatal outcome if it is not effectively elimiinated, is why
    treatments of cancer can be of necessity be quite drastic.

    Having held cancer in my hands on many occasions, I have wondered whether
    alternative supporters would feel the same if they knew what it looked and
    felt like - how alien it is to any normal kind of tissue or even to its
    organ of origin..

    You might be interested in understanding how it came to be...

    The Cancer Cell

    Cancer is a mycoplasma (Progenitor Cryptocides) bacteria - just like strep
    or staph, it lives harmlessly in the body. In its virulent form, it becomes
    a fatal systemic disease found in the blood. But the cancer mycoplasma is
    smaller, meaner and smarter. If you attack it, it packs up its bags and
    moves to another location where it can divide and multiply without
    interruption. That is why surgical removal of parts of the body is futile
    since the activated cancer is in the blood. Unless it is treated as a
    systemic disease, there is no hope of recovery.

    How We Get Cancer

    At the moment of conception, when the sperm fertilizes the egg, 3 things are
    created: (1) life; (2) an immune system; and (3) cancer bacteria. The job of
    the cancer mycoplasma is to cause the cell of the fertilized egg to divide
    and multiply rapidly until the embryo reaches full stage. At that time, the
    job of the cancer mycoplasma is finished. It will then remain in the blood
    stream of most animals, throughout our lives as a harmless scavenger.

    A pH variation occurs in the blood toward the acid side in very minute
    detectable quantities caused by physical abuse of the body: drugs,
    chemicals, stress, poor nutrition, fear, anxiety, and prolonged negative
    emotions. We believe this change in pH activates the cancer mycoplasma
    which, coupled with lack of oxygen in the blood, causes the blood to darken
    or appear greenish in color. This condition is then a fertile breeding
    ground for the now activated mycoplasma which begin to multiply rapidly. The
    more they multiply, the more they destroy the red blood cells, producing
    greater anemia. An immune system will surround the cancer and encapsulate it
    in the form of a tumor. This contains the cancer. However, because the tumor
    has a "feeding tube" drawing nourishment as well as additional cancer from
    the blood, the tumor will continue to grow. When the immune system is weak
    it cannot encapsulate the cancer into tumor form. Consequently it spreads
    (metastasis) to the rest of the body.

    Cancer patients continue to die by following standard medical therapies for
    cancer in North America, each year. Therapies which do not address the fact
    that cancer is a systemic infection and a failing immune system will not
    save the patient's life. Chemotherapy and/or radiation further destroys the
    immune system, can produce painful side effects and ultimate death.

    A Rational Approach

    When I think of germanium I think of Korean INSAM, [censored] Mushrooms, garlic
    and other folk remedies which have survived the test of time and thus
    impress me with the fact that something beneficial is going on or such use
    would have been relegated to the scrap heap long ago. All of these plants
    are rich in germanium. While germanium is not the only active ingredient in
    these plants, the fact remains that these are healing plants and germanium
    alone has proved to be a highly successful adjunct in the treatment of
    cancer.

    Otto Warburg, Nobel Laureate, said "Cancer, above all other diseases, has
    countless secondary causes. But there is only one prime cause." Summarized
    in a few words,"THE PRIME CAUSE OF CANCER IS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE NORMAL
    OXYGEN RESPIRATION OF BODY CELLS BY ANAEROBIC (without oxygen) CELL
    RESPIRATION". Dr. Szent Gvorgyi also felt that cancer originates from an
    insufficient oxygen supply.

    It must therefore follow that a substance which can increase the amount of
    oxygen in the tissue will also reduce the chance of cancer beginning. Since
    anaerobic cells cannot live in a high oxygen environment, the use of a
    substance which enhances oxygen could also be a factor in curing the
    problem. Germanium is an oxygen enhancer and we give it to every patient we
    work with.

    Quoted message said:


    (Thanks to Toby Jones) - this site has some examples of what it can look
    like. The cancer in thie picture is the pale tissue almost encircling


    the

    Quoted message said:

    stomach, just below the left lobe of the liver.

    http://www-medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/GIHTML/GI111.html

    I am sure there are better examples. Does anyone have some other examples
    of how aberrant and invasive cancerous tissue is?

    Peter Moran

  15. Davey, do not sniff your ginseng...

    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Another fond AM myth is that cancer is some sort of minor bodily


    aberration

    Quoted message said:

    that can be easily fixed by the right diet, correcting the odd


    nutritional

    Quoted message said:

    deficiency or even thinking the right thoughts.

    It's not. It's most often a vicious uncontrollable predator that cares


    not

    Quoted message said:

    one whit for what the rest of the body is doing, having usually even
    already completely outwitted the immune system. That, along with an


    almost

    Quoted message said:

    invariably fatal outcome if it is not effectively elimiinated, is why
    treatments of cancer can be of necessity be quite drastic.

    Having held cancer in my hands on many occasions, I have wondered


    whether

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    alternative supporters would feel the same if they knew what it looked


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    felt like - how alien it is to any normal kind of tissue or even to its
    organ of origin..

    You might be interested in understanding how it came to be...

    The Cancer Cell

    Cancer is a mycoplasma (Progenitor Cryptocides) bacteria - just like strep
    or staph, it lives harmlessly in the body. In its virulent form, it


    becomes

    Quoted message said:

    a fatal systemic disease found in the blood. But the cancer mycoplasma is
    smaller, meaner and smarter. If you attack it, it packs up its bags and
    moves to another location where it can divide and multiply without
    interruption. That is why surgical removal of parts of the body is futile
    since the activated cancer is in the blood. Unless it is treated as a
    systemic disease, there is no hope of recovery.

    How We Get Cancer

    At the moment of conception, when the sperm fertilizes the egg, 3 things


    are

    Quoted message said:

    created: (1) life; (2) an immune system; and (3) cancer bacteria. The job


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the cancer mycoplasma is to cause the cell of the fertilized egg to divide
    and multiply rapidly until the embryo reaches full stage. At that time,


    the

    Quoted message said:

    job of the cancer mycoplasma is finished. It will then remain in the blood
    stream of most animals, throughout our lives as a harmless scavenger.

    A pH variation occurs in the blood toward the acid side in very minute
    detectable quantities caused by physical abuse of the body: drugs,
    chemicals, stress, poor nutrition, fear, anxiety, and prolonged negative
    emotions. We believe this change in pH activates the cancer mycoplasma
    which, coupled with lack of oxygen in the blood, causes the blood to


    darken

    Quoted message said:

    or appear greenish in color. This condition is then a fertile breeding
    ground for the now activated mycoplasma which begin to multiply rapidly.


    The

    Quoted message said:

    more they multiply, the more they destroy the red blood cells, producing
    greater anemia. An immune system will surround the cancer and encapsulate


    it

    Quoted message said:

    in the form of a tumor. This contains the cancer. However, because the


    tumor

    Quoted message said:

    has a "feeding tube" drawing nourishment as well as additional cancer from
    the blood, the tumor will continue to grow. When the immune system is weak
    it cannot encapsulate the cancer into tumor form. Consequently it spreads
    (metastasis) to the rest of the body.

    Cancer patients continue to die by following standard medical therapies


    for

    Quoted message said:

    cancer in North America, each year. Therapies which do not address the


    fact

    Quoted message said:

    that cancer is a systemic infection and a failing immune system will not
    save the patient's life. Chemotherapy and/or radiation further destroys


    the

    Quoted message said:

    immune system, can produce painful side effects and ultimate death.

    A Rational Approach

    When I think of germanium I think of Korean INSAM, [censored] Mushrooms,


    garlic

    Quoted message said:

    and other folk remedies which have survived the test of time and thus
    impress me with the fact that something beneficial is going on or such use
    would have been relegated to the scrap heap long ago. All of these plants
    are rich in germanium. While germanium is not the only active ingredient


    in

    Quoted message said:

    these plants, the fact remains that these are healing plants and germanium
    alone has proved to be a highly successful adjunct in the treatment of
    cancer.

    Otto Warburg, Nobel Laureate, said "Cancer, above all other diseases, has
    countless secondary causes. But there is only one prime cause." Summarized
    in a few words,"THE PRIME CAUSE OF CANCER IS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE NORMAL
    OXYGEN RESPIRATION OF BODY CELLS BY ANAEROBIC (without oxygen) CELL
    RESPIRATION". Dr. Szent Gvorgyi also felt that cancer originates from an
    insufficient oxygen supply.

    It must therefore follow that a substance which can increase the amount of
    oxygen in the tissue will also reduce the chance of cancer beginning.


    Since

    Quoted message said:

    anaerobic cells cannot live in a high oxygen environment, the use of a
    substance which enhances oxygen could also be a factor in curing the
    problem. Germanium is an oxygen enhancer and we give it to every patient


    we

    Quoted message said:

    work with.

    Quoted message said:


    (Thanks to Toby Jones) - this site has some examples of what it can


    look

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    like. The cancer in thie picture is the pale tissue almost encircling


    the

    Quoted message said:

    stomach, just below the left lobe of the liver.

    http://www-medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/GIHTML/GI111.html

    I am sure there are better examples. Does anyone have some other


    examples

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of how aberrant and invasive cancerous tissue is?

    Peter Moran

  16. Quoted message said:
    (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: What's cancer like?
    From: "Kim" [email hidden]
    Date: 4/3/2004 4:20 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "Bew" <qw@nonamewhatsover> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > The only thing alien is your brain .
    ===================
    Children's play-yard & kindergarten language... pathetic!

    Soulless Reprobates, Bags of Steaming Feces,
    Remorseless (Anti-Vac) Liars, and Anti-Semites.

    Eat [censored] from a rusty bowl

    Exactly the kinds of words which should be used to describe people who
    would condemn children to death and disability by preventable
    diseases, or who would run clinics in Tijuana to steal money (and the
    remaining months of their lives) from people with advanced cancers, or
    who would campaign for the withdrawal of drugs which can help troubled
    children take control of their lives and destinies, or ...

    Thanks for reminding us, Jan. Welcome to "us".

    Yes, Jan, welcome, but do use proper attributions when you quote me.

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Peter Bowditch

  17. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: What's cancer like?
    From: [email hidden] (Unfiltered Ilsa)
    Date: 4/6/2004 5:49 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Soulless Reprobates, Bags of Steaming Feces,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Remorseless (Anti-Vac) Liars, and Anti-Semites.

    Quoted message said:

    Eat [censored] from a rusty bowl

    Not a sign of a mature person.

    Jan

  18. (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: What's cancer like?
    From: [email hidden] (Unfiltered Ilsa)
    Date: 4/6/2004 5:49 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Soulless Reprobates, Bags of Steaming Feces,

    Quoted message said:

    >Remorseless (Anti-Vac) Liars, and Anti-Semites.

    Quoted message said:

    Eat [censored] from a rusty bowl

    Not a sign of a mature person.

    Jan

    Mature persons in the mental world of Jan Drew take coffee enemas ???

    Regards,

    Aribert Deckers
    --
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    § Strafanzeigen gegen MLM-er §

    http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amaadmin.htm

  19. "Happy Oyster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: What's cancer like?
    From: [email hidden] (Unfiltered Ilsa)
    Date: 4/6/2004 5:49 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Soulless Reprobates, Bags of Steaming Feces,
    >>Remorseless (Anti-Vac) Liars, and Anti-Semites.

    Quoted message said:

    Eat [censored] from a rusty bowl

    Not a sign of a mature person.

    Jan

    Mature persons in the mental world of Jan Drew take coffee enemas ???

    Regards,

    Aribert Deckers
    --


    But, YOU are the result of one. Feeling a little parental rejection? Get
    over it.

  20. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: What's cancer like?
    From: "mdd" [email hidden]
    Date: 4/7/2004 5:03 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "Happy Oyster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    (Jan) said:

    >Subject: Re: What's cancer like?
    >From: [email hidden] (Unfiltered Ilsa)
    >Date: 4/6/2004 5:49 PM Pacific Standard Time
    >Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    >Soulless Reprobates, Bags of Steaming Feces,
    >>>Remorseless (Anti-Vac) Liars, and Anti-Semites.

    >Eat [censored] from a rusty bowl

    Not a sign of a mature person.

    Jan

    Mature persons in the mental world of Jan Drew take coffee enemas ???

    Regards,

    Aribert Deckers
    --


    But, YOU are the result of one. Feeling a little parental rejection? Get
    over it.

    As is Andrew Kingoff. Both picked up this lie from Joel Eichen.

    None can post where I have even taken a coffee enema, because I haven't.

    Jan

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