What's inside a shimano sealed bottom bracket?

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I've searched the web for a picture or drawing without success. My UN-72 has developed a metallic
double clicking sound, twice per revolution, It feels OK when turned by hand, and there's no side
to side play. I've

already

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taken it out of the frame and the threaded cups and shell look entirely

normal.

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Does this sound indicate a pending terminal failure, or is it simply a loose race inside the
shell?. Should I be worried?

I would check the crank and the pedals too. They could be the source of your noise. Especially since
you said the BB feels smooth when you turn it by hand.
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Alex

Mike-<< My UN-72 has developed a metallic double clicking sound, >><BR><BR>

Make sure you tap the right cup off, lube in there and then tap it on. Lube in the left cup and the
BB shell..all tight.

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On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 19:09:18 +0800, Mike Buckler

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I've searched the web for a picture or drawing without success.

My UN-72 has developed a metallic double clicking sound, twice per revolution, It feels OK when
turned by hand, and there's no side to side play. I've already taken it out of the frame and the
threaded cups and shell look entirely normal.

Does this sound indicate a pending terminal failure, or is it simply a loose race inside the
shell?. Should I be worried?

The last time I had a noise like that, the left retainer wasn't tight enough. Check your
pedals, too.

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A prior posting by John Dacey (who made the effort to crush a 6500 just to
see) on this topic:

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"Fallaces sunt rerum species." - Seneca On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:08:12 -0500, dvt

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On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:24:00 -0500, John Dacey

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A full complement of 1/4" balls surrounding a spindle of this dimension seems not possible with
the space constraints.

Is it possible that the spindle has a smaller OD inside the cartridge? I haven't looked at this
newfangled fancy stuff, but it's possible that the spindle is only 26.7mm on the visible portion
of the BB.

Curious, I crushed the left sided of a worn 6500 cartidge yesterday to see what lay within. The
interior section of the spindle normally obscured from view _is_ stepped down somewhat from the Ø
of its visible ends, and the race upon which the balls orbit is cut even further into the spindle.
The bearing complement on the left side was seven 7/32" balls.

Thanks for the input on this. I actually bought / installed the 6500 yesterday. It took 2min to
install. Compared to the 45min I spent trying to get the old original 7700 to spin smoothly, it
was a dream.

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Quoted message said:

I've searched the web for a picture or drawing without success.

My UN-72 has developed a metallic double clicking sound, twice per

revolution,

Quoted message said:

It feels OK when turned by hand, and there's no side to side play. I've

already

Quoted message said:

taken it out of the frame and the threaded cups and shell look entirely

normal.

Quoted message said:

Does this sound indicate a pending terminal failure, or is it simply a

loose

Quoted message said:

race inside the shell?. Should I be worried?

Mike

A mechanic's stethescope at less than ten dollars will do a lot toward intuiting the source of the
click. Try different cup torque settings, see if it gets worse the harder you fix the cups.
(Retainers....)

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Alex Rodriguez said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I've searched the web for a picture or drawing without success. My UN-72 has developed a metallic
double clicking sound, twice per revolution, It feels OK when turned by hand, and there's no side
to side play. I've

already

Quoted message said:

taken it out of the frame and the threaded cups and shell look entirely

normal.

Quoted message said:

Does this sound indicate a pending terminal failure, or is it simply a loose race inside the
shell?. Should I be worried?

I would check the crank and the pedals too. They could be the source of your noise. Especially
since you said the BB feels smooth when you turn it by hand.

I changed the pedals, cranks, wheels and the bottom bracket, none of which made the slightest
difference.

It turned out to be the aluminium mudguard rubbing against the rear carrier when the frame flexed
under load. The actual source of the sound was way back over the rear wheel, but it was traveling
along the mudguard and being broadcast near the bottom bracket !

Mike