What's low carb?

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In a nutshell? Cutting out all sugar and starchy foods.

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|| For a male in his 50's, what is considered low carb?
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|| charles.....

In a nutshell? Cutting out all sugar and starchy foods.

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Then what does a vegetarian eat?

charles.....

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|| For a male in his 50's, what is considered low carb?
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|| charles.....

In a nutshell? Cutting out all sugar and starchy foods.

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Peter
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Then what does a vegetarian eat?

charles.....

You eat meat, cheese, eggs etc.. Forget the vegetarian diet. It's a dumb
diet in the first place and it's not good for you. Vegetarians die younger.

***** charles said:

Then what does a vegetarian eat?

Low-carb generally is somewhere in the vicinity of 20-100 g of
carbohydrate per day. What is good for you depends on why you're doing
low-carb, weight-loss, diabetes, high cholesterol, and how your body
reacts, etc.

As for the vegetarian thing... Google this group about it. There was a
vegetarian poster here a year or so ago who posted lots of recipe ideas
and such. I think she also did fish, so wasn't a strict vegetarian,
though lots of her recipes were vegetarian.

As far as I've heard, vegetarian is do-able as low-carb, but not vegan.
Apparently, if you cut out eggs and dairy and such, you can't get
enough protein as a vegan without eating a relatively high carb level
as the plants that contain protein also contain a lot of carbs.

The book "Protein Power" addresses vegetarians too, but it's limited.
IMO, it is the best overall introduction to low-carb diets if you
haven't read any of the books yet.

Again, it depends on what you want to do. If you don't need to lose
weight, control blood sugar or lower cholesterol or such... you might
try the Zone, which isn't exactly low-carb, but is lower than most
diets. And likely easier to do vegetarian than most of the other
low-carb diets.

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|| For a male in his 50's, what is considered low carb?
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|| charles.....

In a nutshell? Cutting out all sugar and starchy foods.

--
Peter
Website: http://member.cox.net/pmarengo

Then what does a vegetarian eat?

charles.....

You eat meat, cheese, eggs etc.. Forget the vegetarian diet. It's a dumb
diet in the first place and it's not good for you. Vegetarians die younger.

Don't listen to him. Vegetables are an integral part of a low-carb
diet. Eating low-carb while staying vegetarian is a challenge, but some
have done it.

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Hi all,

For a male in his 50's, what is considered low carb?

In reality, it's all about getting back to basics and eating real foods, in
respectable portions and eating because we are truely hungry, not to snack
on a bag of Ruffles & chip dip because it's entertaining.

We're just doing what should be natural!
--
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Hi all,

For a male in his 50's, what is considered low carb?

charles.....

I think it depends on if you're trying to lose weight, or just eat
healthier. I'm your age and have been doing LC for 7 years with great
results. Most of us here think that sugar and starch is the real evil in our
diets, and we avoid them. Why not go out and get yourself a good book on it
like the original Atkins book, which is the basis for most of these LC diets
on the best sellers list. Even if you don't need to lose weight, it's very
interesting reading and challenges what we were brought up on.

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|| For a male in his 50's, what is considered low carb?
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|| charles.....

In a nutshell? Cutting out all sugar and starchy foods.

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Then what does a vegetarian eat?

charles.....

Tofu and lots of green vegetables.

My idea of low carb is to avoid the refined, highly processed,
manufactured fake foods, most of which are high carb.

Real foods, the way our grand parents used to eat is a very healthy way
of eating.

Fake foods include, and is not limited to soda, pasta, white bread,
cakes, sugar, etc.

Eat real meats and any fresh carbs. Fresh carbs are any fresh produce.
Fruits and vegetables. Salads and greens.

It is that simple of a concept. Real food does not sit on the shelf for
months on end without going bad. You have to buy it every day or three.
It requires more prep but contains tons of real nutrition. And tastes
great naturally. You don't need to add teaspoons of sugars to make it
palatable.

Instant fake foods last forever on the shelf and only needs to be
boiled or have hot water and/ or milk and sugar added, and contains no
useful nutrition to speak of.

You don't have to worry about fats. You can eat full fat chicken soup
and get the great nutrition that chicken soup gives you. You eat real
meats that fill you up and provides great proteins. Eggs contain the
best proteins for us. And you eat fresh salads and produce that
actually is nutritious and tasty.

Once you go low-carb you'll wonder why you fixated on gummy white bread
and pasta.

You can eat like a king on low carb and you will be healthier for it.

TC

***** charles said:

Hi all,

For a male in his 50's, what is considered low carb?

charles.....

***** charles said:

Marengo said:

***** charles wrote:

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|| For a male in his 50's, what is considered low carb?

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In a nutshell? Cutting out all sugar and starchy foods.

Depending on who you ask, low carb can start as high as
100 grams per day.

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Then what does a vegetarian eat?

There are vegitarian low carbers. It's more work but it's doable.
Think tofu.

The question becomes why you're a vegitarian and why a vegitarian
would consider low carbing in the first place. If you're a vegitarian
for religious reasons why not go with one of the traditional ethnic
cooking styles that are vegitarian instead? If you're a vegitarian
out of some notion that it's "more healthy" than why not drop that
false notion if you decide to go low carb? The reason why you're a
vegitarian in the first place is crucial.

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Marengo said:

***** charles wrote:

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|| For a male in his 50's, what is considered low carb?

Quoted message said:

In a nutshell? Cutting out all sugar and starchy foods.

Depending on who you ask, low carb can start as high as
100 grams per day.

Quoted message said:

Then what does a vegetarian eat?

There are vegitarian low carbers. It's more work but it's doable.
Think tofu.

The question becomes why you're a vegitarian and why a vegitarian
would consider low carbing in the first place. If you're a vegitarian
for religious reasons why not go with one of the traditional ethnic
cooking styles that are vegitarian instead? If you're a vegitarian
out of some notion that it's "more healthy" than why not drop that
false notion if you decide to go low carb? The reason why you're a
vegitarian in the first place is crucial.

Two reasons:
1. religious
2. when my dad (now dead) was in med school, he used to bring
home slides of all the bugs and wiggly things that one could get
eating meat. I was very young under 4, and it left a very huge
impression on me.

thanks for the other advice.

later...

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The question becomes why you're a vegitarian and why a vegitarian
would consider low carbing in the first place. If you're a vegitarian
for religious reasons why not go with one of the traditional ethnic
cooking styles that are vegitarian instead?

Two reasons:
1. religious

That's the important one. Stick with your religious way of
eating. It's good for the soul.

Low carbing while vegitarian tends to be boring at the start. The
early phases where you're supposed to get as low in carbs as
possible end up being tofu fried in various types of oil to increase
the fat content to make it filling with the amount you need to
stay low enough in carb. Only when you're up to maybe 50 do
you have room to work to make the food interesting.

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The question becomes why you're a vegitarian and why a vegitarian
would consider low carbing in the first place. If you're a vegitarian
for religious reasons why not go with one of the traditional ethnic
cooking styles that are vegitarian instead?

Two reasons:
1. religious

That's the important one. Stick with your religious way of
eating. It's good for the soul.

Low carbing while vegitarian tends to be boring at the start. The
early phases where you're supposed to get as low in carbs as
possible end up being tofu fried in various types of oil to increase
the fat content to make it filling with the amount you need to
stay low enough in carb. Only when you're up to maybe 50 do
you have room to work to make the food interesting.

You don't have to start super low to do low-carb. Charles could just
start at 50 or 60 and see how it goes from there.