What's with Herman Taller?

"Tomasz Trojanowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hello

Do you know what's with Herman Taller, M.D., who has written "Calories

Don't

Quoted message said:

Count"? I
can't find any information about him, after 1967 and his law problems.
What's with him? Is
he still alive? If not - how and when he died?
--
Regards
Tomasz [Tom] Trojanowski

It is an interesting question. As I recall from websurfing about a year
ago, he was convicted of something like mail fraud based on the page in his
diet book that recommended the safflower oil pills. He had some kind of
investment in the supplement seller. The prosecutor claimed that his diet
book was a complete fiction made for the purpose of selling a bogus diet
supplement.

I found his diet book quite inspiring. There are others these days who
claim omega 6 has a role in weightloss. When I read the book, the one page
that touted the saflower oil pills sounded different in cadence, as if it
was either written by someone else, or written at a different time than the
rest of the book, and then inserted. I think there is no question that he
sincerely believed in a low carb high fat diet, as do I. In his own
profound weightloss he had used safflower oil as his fat source, himself.

I don't know how or when he died. I'm sure he would have appreciated last
year's low carb surge.

I believe Dr. Taller's work was part of the research done by Atkins.

Dr. Taller claimed that *all* of his patients on the diet lost weight.
However, he monitored the patients with blood tests by which he determined
who was cheating on the diet, and thus cheaters were not included in the
100% success figure.

My personal theory is that any form of fat will work to produce weightloss.
I have lost 166 pounds, and now have a BMI of about 24. Dr. Taller claimed
that weightloss using his approach stops working at 11% body fat. In the
1960's counting calories was difficult. Today, with software like Fitday,
it is easy. I have been calorie counting at the same time as eating a 60%
to 65% fat diet. So, I guess I disagree with the title of his book. It is
entirely possible that I would have had the same results, except somewhat
slower, if I had followed his ad-lib eating approach.

Dr. Taller's book inspired me to my success. I belived his 100% success
claim, for those Who Do Not Cheat. That belief kept me from cheating.

Dave
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LowCarbHighFat/

I remember that book....the diet required taking an injection of HCG
every day. The theory was, pregnant women lose weight easily (?) so
giving everybody a shot of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin would fool the
body into thinking it was pregnant.....and you'd lose weight.

Im serious.

Why are you interested in finding this nutjob?

LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

oh yeah....I remember the saflower oil thing now, too.....you had to
drink the stuff....disgusting.

am I confused? WASNT he the HCG injections guy? Maybe Im confusing him
with some other diet doc from the 60's......

I think not, tho---

Lass

Re: What's with Herman Taller?

Group: alt.support.diet.low-carb Date: Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 1:09pm (EDT+4)
From: [email hidden] (Dave LCHF)
"Tomasz Trojanowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Hello
Do you know what's with Herman Taller, M.D., who has written "Calories
Don't Count"? I
can't find any information about him, after 1967 and his law problems.
What's with him? Is
he still alive? If not - how and when he died?
--
Regards
Tomasz [Tom] Trojanowski
It is an interesting question. As I recall from websurfing about a year
ago, he was convicted of something like mail fraud based on the page in
his diet book that recommended the safflower oil pills. He had some kind
of investment in the supplement seller. The prosecutor claimed that his
diet book was a complete fiction made for the purpose of selling a bogus
diet supplement.
I found his diet book quite inspiring. There are others these days who
claim omega 6 has a role in weightloss. When I read the book, the one
page that touted the saflower oil pills sounded different in cadence, as
if it was either written by someone else, or written at a different time
than the rest of the book, and then inserted. I think there is no
question that he sincerely believed in a low carb high fat diet, as do
I. In his own profound weightloss he had used safflower oil as his fat
source, himself.
I don't know how or when he died. I'm sure he would have appreciated
last year's low carb surge.
I believe Dr. Taller's work was part of the research done by Atkins.
Dr. Taller claimed that *all* of his patients on the diet lost weight.
However, he monitored the patients with blood tests by which he
determined who was cheating on the diet, and thus cheaters were not
included in the 100% success figure.
My personal theory is that any form of fat will work to produce
weightloss. I have lost 166 pounds, and now have a BMI of about 24. Dr.
Taller claimed that weightloss using his approach stops working at 11%
body fat. In the 1960's counting calories was difficult. Today, with
software like Fitday, it is easy. I have been calorie counting at the
same time as eating a 60% to 65% fat diet. So, I guess I disagree with
the title of his book.   It is entirely possible that I would have had
the same results, except somewhat slower, if I had followed his ad-lib
eating approach.
Dr. Taller's book inspired me to my success. I belived his 100% success
claim, for those Who Do Not Cheat. That belief kept me from cheating.
Dave
  http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LowCarbHighFat/

LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

So you really have no idea what you're talking about.

Again.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
oh yeah....I remember the saflower oil thing now, too.....you had to
drink the stuff....disgusting.

am I confused? WASNT he the HCG injections guy? Maybe Im confusing him
with some other diet doc from the 60's......

I think not, tho---

Lass

Re: What's with Herman Taller?

Group: alt.support.diet.low-carb Date: Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 1:09pm (EDT+4)
From: [email hidden] (Dave LCHF)
"Tomasz Trojanowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Hello
Do you know what's with Herman Taller, M.D., who has written "Calories
Don't Count"? I
can't find any information about him, after 1967 and his law problems.
What's with him? Is
he still alive? If not - how and when he died?
--
Regards
Tomasz [Tom] Trojanowski
It is an interesting question. As I recall from websurfing about a year
ago, he was convicted of something like mail fraud based on the page in
his diet book that recommended the safflower oil pills. He had some kind
of investment in the supplement seller. The prosecutor claimed that his
diet book was a complete fiction made for the purpose of selling a bogus
diet supplement.
I found his diet book quite inspiring. There are others these days who
claim omega 6 has a role in weightloss. When I read the book, the one
page that touted the saflower oil pills sounded different in cadence, as
if it was either written by someone else, or written at a different time
than the rest of the book, and then inserted. I think there is no
question that he sincerely believed in a low carb high fat diet, as do
I. In his own profound weightloss he had used safflower oil as his fat
source, himself.
I don't know how or when he died. I'm sure he would have appreciated
last year's low carb surge.
I believe Dr. Taller's work was part of the research done by Atkins.
Dr. Taller claimed that *all* of his patients on the diet lost weight.
However, he monitored the patients with blood tests by which he
determined who was cheating on the diet, and thus cheaters were not
included in the 100% success figure.
My personal theory is that any form of fat will work to produce
weightloss. I have lost 166 pounds, and now have a BMI of about 24. Dr.
Taller claimed that weightloss using his approach stops working at 11%
body fat. In the 1960's counting calories was difficult. Today, with
software like Fitday, it is easy. I have been calorie counting at the
same time as eating a 60% to 65% fat diet. So, I guess I disagree with
the title of his book. It is entirely possible that I would have had
the same results, except somewhat slower, if I had followed his ad-lib
eating approach.
Dr. Taller's book inspired me to my success. I belived his 100% success
claim, for those Who Do Not Cheat. That belief kept me from cheating.
Dave
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LowCarbHighFat/

LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

Actually, Konehead, Im about 99% certain Im right. It was the first
diet book I ever read. I was 15. Maybe 14. !964. I remember gagging
down the saflower oil....and begging my mom to find a doc who would give
me the shots. Fortunately, she declined.

As it was the only diet book I had read, the HCG pretty much had to
have come from that book.

But, feel free to go fu*k yourself, either way, dipshit.

LassChance

Re: What's with Herman Taller?

Group: alt.support.diet.low-carb Date: Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 3:40pm (EDT+4)
From: [email hidden] (JC Der Koenig)
So you really have no idea what you're talking about.
Again.
--

LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

I have a copy of the book in my hand, and I have read the whole thing some
months ago. I remember nothing about pregnant women or injections of any
kind.

The book does not have an index.

Dr. Taller was not a nutjob.

"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I remember that book....the diet required taking an injection of HCG
every day. The theory was, pregnant women lose weight easily (?) so
giving everybody a shot of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin would fool the
body into thinking it was pregnant.....and you'd lose weight.

Im serious.

Why are you interested in finding this nutjob?

LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

He did drink safflower oil. To my recollection, he said nothing about
injections or pregnancy.

"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
oh yeah....I remember the saflower oil thing now, too.....you had to
drink the stuff....disgusting.

am I confused? WASNT he the HCG injections guy? Maybe Im confusing him
with some other diet doc from the 60's......

I think not, tho---

Lass

Re: What's with Herman Taller?

Group: alt.support.diet.low-carb Date: Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 1:09pm (EDT+4)
From: [email hidden] (Dave LCHF)
"Tomasz Trojanowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Hello
Do you know what's with Herman Taller, M.D., who has written "Calories
Don't Count"? I
can't find any information about him, after 1967 and his law problems.
What's with him? Is
he still alive? If not - how and when he died?
--
Regards
Tomasz [Tom] Trojanowski
It is an interesting question. As I recall from websurfing about a year
ago, he was convicted of something like mail fraud based on the page in
his diet book that recommended the safflower oil pills. He had some kind
of investment in the supplement seller. The prosecutor claimed that his
diet book was a complete fiction made for the purpose of selling a bogus
diet supplement.
I found his diet book quite inspiring. There are others these days who
claim omega 6 has a role in weightloss. When I read the book, the one
page that touted the saflower oil pills sounded different in cadence, as
if it was either written by someone else, or written at a different time
than the rest of the book, and then inserted. I think there is no
question that he sincerely believed in a low carb high fat diet, as do
I. In his own profound weightloss he had used safflower oil as his fat
source, himself.
I don't know how or when he died. I'm sure he would have appreciated
last year's low carb surge.
I believe Dr. Taller's work was part of the research done by Atkins.
Dr. Taller claimed that *all* of his patients on the diet lost weight.
However, he monitored the patients with blood tests by which he
determined who was cheating on the diet, and thus cheaters were not
included in the 100% success figure.
My personal theory is that any form of fat will work to produce
weightloss. I have lost 166 pounds, and now have a BMI of about 24. Dr.
Taller claimed that weightloss using his approach stops working at 11%
body fat. In the 1960's counting calories was difficult. Today, with
software like Fitday, it is easy. I have been calorie counting at the
same time as eating a 60% to 65% fat diet. So, I guess I disagree with
the title of his book. It is entirely possible that I would have had
the same results, except somewhat slower, if I had followed his ad-lib
eating approach.
Dr. Taller's book inspired me to my success. I belived his 100% success
claim, for those Who Do Not Cheat. That belief kept me from cheating.
Dave
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LowCarbHighFat/

LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

So you really have no idea what you're talking about.

Again.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Actually, Konehead, Im about 99% certain Im right. It was the first
diet book I ever read. I was 15. Maybe 14. !964. I remember gagging
down the saflower oil....and begging my mom to find a doc who would give
me the shots. Fortunately, she declined.

As it was the only diet book I had read, the HCG pretty much had to
have come from that book.

But, feel free to go fu*k yourself, either way, dipshit.

LassChance

Re: What's with Herman Taller?

Group: alt.support.diet.low-carb Date: Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 3:40pm (EDT+4)
From: [email hidden] (JC Der Koenig)
So you really have no idea what you're talking about.
Again.
--

LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

Lass Chance_2 said:

Actually, Konehead, Im about 99% certain Im right. It was the first
diet book I ever read. I was 15. Maybe 14. !964. I remember gagging
down the saflower oil....and begging my mom to find a doc who would give
me the shots. Fortunately, she declined.

Google suggests you're wrong. The fad for those shots was high around
1957, Taller's book came out in the early '60s, while there are a number
of links that refer to both that seems to be more a reflection that
they're sites that discuss dieting plans.

Quoted message said:

As it was the only diet book I had read, the HCG pretty much had to
have come from that book.

Maybe you saw it in an article?

Martha

Dave LCHF said:

"Tomasz Trojanowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hello

Do you know what's with Herman Taller, M.D., who has written "Calories

Don't

Quoted message said:

Count"? I
can't find any information about him, after 1967 and his law problems.
What's with him? Is
he still alive? If not - how and when he died?

It is an interesting question. As I recall from websurfing about a year
ago, he was convicted of something like mail fraud based on the page in his
diet book that recommended the safflower oil pills. He had some kind of
investment in the supplement seller. The prosecutor claimed that his diet
book was a complete fiction made for the purpose of selling a bogus diet
supplement.

I found his diet book quite inspiring. There are others these days who
claim omega 6 has a role in weightloss. When I read the book, the one page
that touted the saflower oil pills sounded different in cadence, as if it
was either written by someone else, or written at a different time than the
rest of the book, and then inserted. I think there is no question that he
sincerely believed in a low carb high fat diet, as do I. In his own
profound weightloss he had used safflower oil as his fat source, himself.

I don't know how or when he died. I'm sure he would have appreciated last
year's low carb surge.

I believe Dr. Taller's work was part of the research done by Atkins.

Dr. Taller claimed that *all* of his patients on the diet lost weight.
However, he monitored the patients with blood tests by which he determined
who was cheating on the diet, and thus cheaters were not included in the
100% success figure.

My personal theory is that any form of fat will work to produce weightloss.
I have lost 166 pounds, and now have a BMI of about 24. Dr. Taller claimed
that weightloss using his approach stops working at 11% body fat. In the
1960's counting calories was difficult. Today, with software like Fitday,
it is easy. I have been calorie counting at the same time as eating a 60%
to 65% fat diet. So, I guess I disagree with the title of his book. It is
entirely possible that I would have had the same results, except somewhat
slower, if I had followed his ad-lib eating approach.

Do not count on it. I am eating ad lib at about the same ratios as
you, and am not losing any more weight. I am at BMI 24 also.

Quoted message said:

Dr. Taller's book inspired me to my success. I belived his 100% success
claim, for those Who Do Not Cheat. That belief kept me from cheating.

With regards to diet cheating, my question is, "just who is being cheated".

i

Quoted message said:

Dave
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LowCarbHighFat/

--
223/175.3/180

Hi Tom,

nice to hear from you again. The last time you posted,
you told us about having been on Kwasniewski's
diet for seven years....

Quoted message said:

I was convinced by Jan Kwasniewski's book titled
"Optimal Nutrition" published in 1996. His idea was for me - that time -
very coherent and brilliant.
Since than I've met many people on this diet. I noticed
that not everything was as easy as the author said it would be. I noticed
that no one
(diet's author too) tried to clear up problems people
on this diet had.

I'm still interested in learning more about your long time experience
with Jan K.'s diet. What problems were you referring to?

I have the "Optimal Nutrition" book, but find it
not very informative (in the sense that Dr. K. doesn't really bother
to explain the science behind his approach....).

Take care,
Hamburger

Lass Chance_2 said:

I remember that book....the diet required taking an injection of HCG
every day. The theory was, pregnant women lose weight easily (?) so
giving everybody a shot of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin would fool the
body into thinking it was pregnant.....and you'd lose weight.

Is it possible you read two books back then and you've
combined their memories over the years? Or even there
may be more than one book with the title?

Injections of HCG that is extracted from the urine of
pregnant women is still in use. My ex tried it through
Lindora Medical Clinic in Los Angeles in the 1990s.
She lost but she was hungry constantly and soon dropped
out of the program. Their maintenance plan: show you
where WW meets.

I guess I use the term in the sense of: "To violate rules deliberately"

In dieting jargon, "cheating" would be violating the rules of the diet one
has chosen. For example: A vegan eating brains is cheating.

Did you mean to point out that a diet cheater is cheating themselves out
improved health?

🙂

"Ignoramus15893" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 13:09:43 GMT, Dave LCHF

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"Tomasz Trojanowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hello

Do you know what's with Herman Taller, M.D., who has written "Calories

Don't

Quoted message said:

Count"? I
can't find any information about him, after 1967 and his law problems.
What's with him? Is
he still alive? If not - how and when he died?

It is an interesting question. As I recall from websurfing about a year
ago, he was convicted of something like mail fraud based on the page in

his

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

diet book that recommended the safflower oil pills. He had some kind of
investment in the supplement seller. The prosecutor claimed that his

diet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

book was a complete fiction made for the purpose of selling a bogus diet
supplement.

I found his diet book quite inspiring. There are others these days who
claim omega 6 has a role in weightloss. When I read the book, the one

page

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that touted the saflower oil pills sounded different in cadence, as if

it

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

was either written by someone else, or written at a different time than

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

rest of the book, and then inserted. I think there is no question that

he

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

sincerely believed in a low carb high fat diet, as do I. In his own
profound weightloss he had used safflower oil as his fat source,

himself.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I don't know how or when he died. I'm sure he would have appreciated

last

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

year's low carb surge.

I believe Dr. Taller's work was part of the research done by Atkins.

Dr. Taller claimed that *all* of his patients on the diet lost weight.
However, he monitored the patients with blood tests by which he

determined

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

who was cheating on the diet, and thus cheaters were not included in the
100% success figure.

My personal theory is that any form of fat will work to produce

weightloss.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have lost 166 pounds, and now have a BMI of about 24. Dr. Taller

claimed

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that weightloss using his approach stops working at 11% body fat. In

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

1960's counting calories was difficult. Today, with software like

Fitday,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it is easy. I have been calorie counting at the same time as eating a

60%

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to 65% fat diet. So, I guess I disagree with the title of his book.

It is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

entirely possible that I would have had the same results, except

somewhat

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

slower, if I had followed his ad-lib eating approach.

Do not count on it. I am eating ad lib at about the same ratios as
you, and am not losing any more weight. I am at BMI 24 also.

Quoted message said:

Dr. Taller's book inspired me to my success. I belived his 100% success
claim, for those Who Do Not Cheat. That belief kept me from cheating.

With regards to diet cheating, my question is, "just who is being

cheated".

Quoted message said:

i

Quoted message said:

Dave
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LowCarbHighFat/

--
223/175.3/180

Cubit said:

I guess I use the term in the sense of: "To violate rules deliberately"

In dieting jargon, "cheating" would be violating the rules of the diet one
has chosen. For example: A vegan eating brains is cheating.

Did you mean to point out that a diet cheater is cheating themselves out
improved health?

That's correct.

i

Quoted message said:

🙂

"Ignoramus15893" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 13:09:43 GMT, Dave LCHF

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"Tomasz Trojanowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Hello
>
> Do you know what's with Herman Taller, M.D., who has written "Calories
Don't
> Count"? I
> can't find any information about him, after 1967 and his law problems.
> What's with him? Is
> he still alive? If not - how and when he died?

It is an interesting question. As I recall from websurfing about a year
ago, he was convicted of something like mail fraud based on the page in

his

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

diet book that recommended the safflower oil pills. He had some kind of
investment in the supplement seller. The prosecutor claimed that his

diet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

book was a complete fiction made for the purpose of selling a bogus diet
supplement.

I found his diet book quite inspiring. There are others these days who
claim omega 6 has a role in weightloss. When I read the book, the one

page

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that touted the saflower oil pills sounded different in cadence, as if

it

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

was either written by someone else, or written at a different time than

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

rest of the book, and then inserted. I think there is no question that

he

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

sincerely believed in a low carb high fat diet, as do I. In his own
profound weightloss he had used safflower oil as his fat source,

himself.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I don't know how or when he died. I'm sure he would have appreciated

last

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

year's low carb surge.

I believe Dr. Taller's work was part of the research done by Atkins.

Dr. Taller claimed that *all* of his patients on the diet lost weight.
However, he monitored the patients with blood tests by which he

determined

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

who was cheating on the diet, and thus cheaters were not included in the
100% success figure.

My personal theory is that any form of fat will work to produce

weightloss.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have lost 166 pounds, and now have a BMI of about 24. Dr. Taller

claimed

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that weightloss using his approach stops working at 11% body fat. In

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

1960's counting calories was difficult. Today, with software like

Fitday,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it is easy. I have been calorie counting at the same time as eating a

60%

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to 65% fat diet. So, I guess I disagree with the title of his book.

It is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

entirely possible that I would have had the same results, except

somewhat

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

slower, if I had followed his ad-lib eating approach.

Do not count on it. I am eating ad lib at about the same ratios as
you, and am not losing any more weight. I am at BMI 24 also.

Quoted message said:

Dr. Taller's book inspired me to my success. I belived his 100% success
claim, for those Who Do Not Cheat. That belief kept me from cheating.

With regards to diet cheating, my question is, "just who is being

cheated".

Quoted message said:

i

Quoted message said:

Dave
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LowCarbHighFat/

--
223/175.1/180

"As it was the only diet book I had read, the HCG pretty much had to
have come from that book." Lass

"Maybe you saw it in an article?
Martha"

Well, maybe so. It's a forty year old memory, LOL.....I remember my
mom's friend, Katherine, gave us the book...I remember gacking down the
safflower oil (blech)....and I remember Katherine talking about getting
her "shots", I believe, daily....so I may have associated the shots with
the book in my mind.

In any case, Im not interested in drinking salad oil OR taking hormone
injections to lose weight. Man...that oil was hard to swallow.

LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

So basically you didn't know what you were talking about... again.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"As it was the only diet book I had read, the HCG pretty much had to
have come from that book." Lass

"Maybe you saw it in an article?
Martha"

Well, maybe so. It's a forty year old memory, LOL.....I remember my
mom's friend, Katherine, gave us the book...I remember gacking down the
safflower oil (blech)....and I remember Katherine talking about getting
her "shots", I believe, daily....so I may have associated the shots with
the book in my mind.

In any case, Im not interested in drinking salad oil OR taking hormone
injections to lose weight. Man...that oil was hard to swallow.

LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

Either you're set at "Repeat" or your batteries are running low.

Shock treatments are helpful, sometimes.
Lass Chance

Re: What's with Herman Taller?

Group: alt.support.diet.low-carb Date: Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 1:54am (EDT+4)
From: [email hidden] (JC Der Koenig)
So basically you didn't know what you were talking about... again.
--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW
"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
"As it was the only diet book I had read, the HCG pretty much had to
have come from that book." Lass
"Maybe you saw it in an article?
Martha"
Well, maybe so. It's a forty year old memory, LOL.....I remember my
mom's friend, Katherine, gave us the book...I remember gacking down the
safflower oil (blech)....and I remember Katherine talking about getting
her "shots", I believe, daily....so I may have associated the shots with
the book in my mind.
In any case, Im not interested in drinking salad oil OR taking hormone
injections to lose weight. Man...that oil was hard to swallow.
LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

So basically you didn't know what you were talking about... again.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Either you're set at "Repeat" or your batteries are running low.

Shock treatments are helpful, sometimes.
Lass Chance

Re: What's with Herman Taller?

Group: alt.support.diet.low-carb Date: Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 1:54am (EDT+4)
From: [email hidden] (JC Der Koenig)
So basically you didn't know what you were talking about... again.
--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW
"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
"As it was the only diet book I had read, the HCG pretty much had to
have come from that book." Lass
"Maybe you saw it in an article?
Martha"
Well, maybe so. It's a forty year old memory, LOL.....I remember my
mom's friend, Katherine, gave us the book...I remember gacking down the
safflower oil (blech)....and I remember Katherine talking about getting
her "shots", I believe, daily....so I may have associated the shots with
the book in my mind.
In any case, Im not interested in drinking salad oil OR taking hormone
injections to lose weight. Man...that oil was hard to swallow.
LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162