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  1. Can anyone explain to me why posters to this newsgroup tend to use "h*lm*t"
    instead of "helmet"?

    Is there a problem with the word "helmet"? Why do people feel they cannot
    bring themselves to type it? Of course there are strong feelings about
    helmets; you only have to look at the number of replies a helmet posting
    gets to see that; but why the aversion to the word itself?

    Also, I've seen people use "ShimaNO". What's that all about?

    Ian

  2. wheelsgoround <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : Can anyone explain to me why posters to this newsgroup tend to use "h*lm*t"
    : instead of "helmet"?

    It's an in-joke. Also an attempt to stop the h*lm*t wars 🙂

    : Also, I've seen people use "ShimaNO". What's that all about?

    Used by those who prefer Campagnolo and are under the age of 5 (mental
    age). c.f. Micro$oft, Microsucks etc.

    Arthur

    --
    Arthur Clune http://www.clune.org
    "Technolibertarians make a philosophy out of a personality defect"
    - Paulina Borsook

  3. wheelsgoround said:

    Can anyone explain to me why posters to this newsgroup tend to use "h*lm*t"
    instead of "helmet"?

    The tabloids use constructions like f**k to denote a Rude Word, because
    they're too prudish to use the real thing. h*lm*t appears to play off
    this substitution of letters to make a rude word, it being rude to bring
    up a subject which is routinely hacked to death and bores us all to
    tears, especially those of us bothered enough about the matter to feel
    it has to be addressed /despite/ being a PITA for just about everyone.

    Quoted message said:

    Also, I've seen people use "ShimaNO". What's that all about?

    Shimano are a bit like Microsoft: they're not the only game in town, but
    sometimes you might suspect they are. Not so like Microsoft they
    actually make some very, very good products which people choose for
    reasons other than "because everyone else uses it", so it isn't entirely
    fair, but some people like to "Just say No to Shimano" and will sooner
    use anything else. Seems to be most prominent amongst Campagophile roadies.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  4. I kind of knew that Pete and Arthur (and a few others) would come back with
    a sensible explanation.

    I had missed the ironic tongue-in-cheek use of the "*". Maybe I need to
    lighten up a bit.

    As far as "ShimaNO" is concerned, I don't like dominance by a single
    manufacturer in any product group, but I think cycle components have come a
    long way thanks to Shimano. Not only innovations like freehubs, Hyperglide
    and SPD but what is actually a pretty good spread of quality/price
    components. But there are others to choose from if you can't afford Campag;
    i.e. SRAM, Sunrace and others (although it's a tribute to Shimano's success
    that these basically copy Shimano's designs)

    Ian

  5. wheelsgoround said:

    I had missed the ironic tongue-in-cheek use of the "*". Maybe I
    need to lighten up a bit.

    As far as "ShimaNO" is concerned, I don't like dominance by a single
    manufacturer in any product group, but I think cycle components have
    come a long way thanks to Shimano. Not only innovations like
    freehubs, Hyperglide and SPD but what is actually a pretty good
    spread of quality/price components. But there are others to choose
    from if you can't afford Campag; i.e. SRAM, Sunrace and others
    (although it's a tribute to Shimano's success that these basically
    copy Shimano's designs)

    Please don't take "ShimaNO" too seriously either. As a Campag fan, I like
    to take the mick out of Shimano sometimes, but really, I know they make
    some good stuff. Those quick releases, for instance ;-)

    ~PB, age 4 1/2

  6. Quoted message said:

    ~PB, age 4 1/2

    Nice one.

    I have a lot of respect for Campag's engineering too. With limited pennies
    I've never quite managed to save up enough to get any of it. Sadly. (I
    know that's a silly thing to say because I could have quite easily
    compromised on many things (Beaujolais for example) to save enough but
    haven't quite adjusted my priorities enough)

    Ian
    (age 37 3/8)

  7. Arthur Clune said:

    wheelsgoround <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    : Also, I've seen people use "ShimaNO". What's that all about?

    Used by those who prefer Campagnolo and are under the age of 5 (mental
    age). c.f. Micro$oft, Microsucks etc.

    The satellite tv groups tend to refer to $ky, for obvious reasons.

  8. in message <[email hidden]>, wheelsgoround

    (') said:

    Can anyone explain to me why posters to this newsgroup tend to use
    "h*lm*t" instead of "helmet"?

    Flame wars. You must have noticed that there's usually at least one
    animated debate about headgear on this group.

    Quoted message said:

    Also, I've seen people use "ShimaNO". What's that all about?

    Mainly extreme Campagnolo fetishists. I'm a bit of a Campagnolo
    fetishist myself, but as Campagnolo no longer produce kit for mountain
    bikes one is sometimes obliged to buy lesser brands...

    It's a snobbery thing. Shimano is what most bikes have, because they
    have a very wide range and produce reasonable value for money at many
    price points.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    Due to financial constraints, the light at the end of the tunnel
    has been switched off.

  9. On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:37:54 +0100 someone who may be
    "wheelsgoround" <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    I could have quite easily
    compromised on many things (Beaujolais for example)

    If you cut back on the pleasures of life you don't live any longer.
    It just seems like it:-)

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E
    I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government
    prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

  10. Quoted message said:

    Can anyone explain to me why posters to this newsgroup tend to use "h*lm*t"
    instead of "helmet"?

    Is there a problem with the word "helmet"? Why do people feel they cannot
    bring themselves to type it? Of course there are strong feelings about
    helmets; you only have to look at the number of replies a helmet posting
    gets to see that; but why the aversion to the word itself?

    Historically, a lot of people have set up filters to ignore any message
    that includes the word "helmet". The reason was to avoid the helmet war
    threads. Typing "h*lm*t" was originally a way to get round those filters.

    --
    Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
    <URL:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/>
    "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

  11. wheelsgoround said:

    Also, I've seen people use "ShimaNO". What's that all about?

    "Anything that is popular is no good"

    Such people live by this.

    --

    Burning_Ranger

    To email: [email hidden]

  12. wheelsgoround said:

    Can anyone explain to me why posters to this newsgroup tend to use "h*lm*t"
    instead of "helmet"?

    Some here believe that a helmet as a safety device for reducing
    injuries and perhaps deaths is a bad idea.

    Umm......

  13. Me! <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:22:46 +0100, "wheelsgoround"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can anyone explain to me why posters to this newsgroup tend to use "h*lm*t"
    instead of "helmet"?

    Quoted message said:

    Some here believe that a helmet as a safety device for reducing
    injuries and perhaps deaths is a bad idea.

    Some of us believe there is little credible evidence to support that
    assertion.

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

  14. "Helen Deborah Vecht" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Me! <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:22:46 +0100, "wheelsgoround"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can anyone explain to me why posters to this newsgroup tend to use "h*lm*t"
    instead of "helmet"?

    Quoted message said:

    Some here believe that a helmet as a safety device for reducing
    injuries and perhaps deaths is a bad idea.

    Some of us believe there is little credible evidence to support that
    assertion.

    Oh come now, no-one on any of the many sides of the helmet/h*l*m*t wars cares
    about evidence, or credibility for that matter. You all just like a bloody good
    punch up and the h-word is an easy way to start one.

    If URC were an Asterix cartoon it would mostly consist of fights in front of
    Unhygienix's shop....
    --
    Mark South, Super Genius: World Citizen, Net Denizen

  15. In message <[email hidden]>, Mark South
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:


    If URC were an Asterix cartoon it would mostly consist of fights in front of
    Unhygienix's shop....

    I must be getting old, there wasn't a bike shop in the Village Gaulois
    when I last looked. I suppose the TdF passed through?

    --
    Sue ];(🙂

    Asterix does wear a h*lmet!

  16. Me! said:
    wheelsgoround said:

    Can anyone explain to me why posters to this newsgroup tend to use "h*lm*t"
    instead of "helmet"?

    Some here believe that a helmet as a safety device for reducing
    injuries and perhaps deaths is a bad idea.

    Umm......

    While some put their faith in their polystyrene HGV deflector.

    Tony

  17. Neglect not the use of the word "p+nct+r+". Typing the word with the vowels
    inserted is statistically proven to increase the likelihood of a visit from
    the P+nct+r+ Fairy...

    --

    Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
    ===========================================================
    Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
    http://www.bhpc.org.uk/
    ===========================================================

  18. "Sue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In message <[email hidden]>, Mark South
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:


    If URC were an Asterix cartoon it would mostly consist of fights in front of
    Unhygienix's shop....

    I must be getting old, there wasn't a bike shop in the Village Gaulois
    when I last looked. I suppose the TdF passed through?

    If you're only looking for a punch-up, then a fish is as much use as a helmet.

    Quoted message said:

    Asterix does wear a h*lmet!

    They all do. But so do the Romans, and it doesn't help their chances one bit.

    Oh, now I want to watch Mission Cleopatre again....
    --
    Mark South, Super Genius: World Citizen, Net Denizen

  19. Me! said:


    wheelsgoround said:

    Can anyone explain to me why posters to this newsgroup tend to use "h*lm*t"
    instead of "helmet"?

    Some here believe that a helmet as a safety device for reducing
    injuries and perhaps deaths is a bad idea.

    While some of us believe they have more value as a hanging basket.

    John B

  20. JohnB said:
    Me! said:


    wheelsgoround said:

    Can anyone explain to me why posters to this newsgroup tend to use "h*lm*t"
    instead of "helmet"?

    Some here believe that a helmet as a safety device for reducing
    injuries and perhaps deaths is a bad idea.

    While some of us believe they have more value as a hanging basket.


    I think wire mesh ones work better.

    A

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